Farewell James Harmes

[58er 5,632]

8 hours ago, poita said:

Given that Dunstan is our only genuine midfielder at Casey, losing Harmes would have a significant impact on our midfield depth.

I'm yet to be convinced that Laurie is going to be a long term AFL player, and neither Howes or Woewodin is beating down the door, but none of these are onballers anyway.

We need to be heavily investing in the midfield in this year's draft. 

There is still approx 12 games plus any Finals and as usual some D/Lers are ( as is their rite but it's a painful read of speculation and predictions to judge many times). We have seen JJ and Harmes take the slow way and alternatively Bowser and Judd McVee the fast track to AFL pedigree. 

Jury still out on Howes Taj Deakyn Laurie etc. who can grab the gap to AFL team with 5/6 good games and come in for an injury maybe and voila so we can't discard some who are still on the journey and indeed keep some here in the 24 to 30 category for real and authentic depth. 

[Demon Dynasty 15,781]

27 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It’s not just my view.

But… last week I was taken to task on the subject of what one of our players had said on a particular subject. It wasn’t pleasant, therefore I’m loath to go into anything in any sort of detail, suffice to say Harmesy’s personal issues have nothing to do with him getting or not getting a game. 

Sounds a bit murky.  I'm not sure whether you mean taken to task on here or elsewhere but nvm.  All good WC thanks for the feedback.

[WalkingCivilWar 32,841]

5 hours ago, JTR said:

This is a re-hash of the same story from 2022.  Must be a slow news days

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2022-james-harmes-to-essendon-request-aaron-francis-to-sydney-brodie-grundy-pay-cut-melbourne/news-story/05b4e67a11ebb8111151227ae4444014

 

 

5 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Must be a slow news day for the media. 

Let's look at a few things. 

He is contracted until the end of next year
He is a premiership player
He grew up a Melbourne Supporter
He has many close friends at the club
He got snubbed by Brad Scott at the end of last year.

Nothing to see here, move along people. 

Right? Some journo has only a single brain synapsis firing, needs to meet a publication deadline, has donuts story-wise so phones this old chestnut in. Why now? What’s changed? Answer: a grand total of NOTHING. Nothing’s changed. This thread is reminiscent of the Rival Clubs Circling Weids thread. And as was the case with that thread, we’re slowly starting to see the insincere, patronising (and premature) plaudits that are customarily bestowed on much-maligned players when it appears their time as a Demon is nearing the end. Moreover, you can bet these posts will come from the very people who bagged him all along. 

*returns to the puppy thread to remember all that’s good in the world*

[WalkingCivilWar 32,841]

10 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Sounds a bit murky.  I'm not sure whether you mean taken to task on here or elsewhere but nvm.  All good WC thanks for the feedback.

It was on here. I was made to feel like I was making [censored] up. I snapped back at the implication and was told to calm down. All good, it’s character-building I guess. 
🤷‍♀️

[dazzledavey36 49,025]

Gee whiz 

Appears you can't have a decent footy related discussion on here without the same usuals coming on here beating their chest telling you what you should or shouldn't write on a footy related discussions. 😅

 

[dazzledavey36 49,025]

5 hours ago, Dwight Schrute said:

That's where he and James Jordan will be playing in 24 i suspect. maybe Tommo as well. 

You can make a case that a few clubs could use Tommo as an experienced depth and would certainly play more senior games elsewhere. 

Essendon, WB and Hawthorn are 3 that come to mind.

[Ham 741]

5 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Please watch more VFL.
Laurie has shown plenty at that level and Woey is developing nicely. 

Have watched plenty. Laurie is not AFL standard. 

[Thehardtackler 785]

Would be surprised if Harmes left or we wanted him to. I am going to say he will sign a new contract. Just a feeling!

[FritschyBusiness 1,455]

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You don't get it do you?

You actually just named a good player in Jackson leaving our club for bigger coin and family. That's a good player right there leaving after success.

Harmes literally said yes to meeting to meeting up with Essendon last year.

That's pretty much him saying he was up for a change of scenery purely because he wanted more senior opportunities playing as a full time midfielder and he could foresee that his opportunities playing midfield at Melbourne was drying up.. which it has now.

The only reason his not in Essendon colours this year is because Scott didn't bother to turn up to the meeting that Josh Mahoney organised with Harmes.

Believe it or not some players actually don't want to be the 24th player at the club when they know they'd be best 22 at another club. Funny that huh?

I noted Jackson and Bedford because they were both players we wanted to keep. 
Yes Harmes said yes to a meeting. Players say yes to meetings all the time, doesn't mean they are going to leave.

[Kent 2,606]

How is Jed Adams tracking.

Have heard nothing about him He is Out of contract next year Second round pick wasn't he?

[Redleg 37,909]

13 minutes ago, Kent said:

How is Jed Adams tracking.

Have heard nothing about him He is Out of contract next year Second round pick wasn't he?

Played his best game for Casey.

Looks to be developing nicely.

[layzie 29,308]

I'd think there is something to this story. He sounds like he's been having a rough trot lately. Whatever the issues he’s been dealing with have been.

I love Harmsey and I’d love nothing more than him to force his way back into the team, I do feel he’s worth having on the list and would like to hang on to him but I can see the other side. He’s found himself in a position where he doesn’t quite offer enough in terms of what our system requires. 

He still has time but I wouldn’t begrudge him exploring his options at season’s end. Will always be a key member of our success and much loved. 
 

[drysdale demon 4,193]

7 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Players say yes to meetings all the time, doesn't mean they are going to leave

Yep, Viney had a meeting with Geelong before he signed on again.

[old55 21,445]

11 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You can make a case that a few clubs could use Tommo as an experienced depth and would certainly play more senior games elsewhere. 

Essendon, WB and Hawthorn are 3 that come to mind.

Sydney

[dazzledavey36 49,025]

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd think there is something to this story. He sounds like he's been having a rough trot lately. Whatever the issues he’s been dealing with have been.

I love Harmsey and I’d love nothing more than him to force his way back into the team, I do feel he’s worth having on the list and would like to hang on to him but I can see the other side. He’s found himself in a position where he doesn’t quite offer enough in terms of what our system requires. 

He still has time but I wouldn’t begrudge him exploring his options at season’s end. Will always be a key member of our success and much loved. 
 

I don't think anyone would begrudge him leaving and most certainly will go down a premiership hero. 

But he'll be 28 next year and he has every right to look after his own backyard regardless whether people think being a Melbourne supporter will be his saving grace.

If he can squeeze another 3 years of playing good senior footballer elsewhere then it's a win for Harmesy career!

[leave it to deever 16,013]

11 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It was on here. I was made to feel like I was making [censored] up. I snapped back at the implication and was told to calm down. All good, it’s character-building I guess. 
🤷‍♀️

Disagreements occur on this site all the time. It's what makes things interesting.  The parry and thrust can be quite stimulating and educational. There are quite a few posters who have some wonderful insights and knowledge of the game and share it in generous ways. There are also others who simply lact tact and basic manners. In effect Demonland is a of course like all social media platforms a microcosm .

Some posters can argue with you or correct you in a polite and somtimes jovial manner ( just normal life skills)and of course there are those who through pride, anger or ar5olitis ( as my dad used to so succinctly call it), just cant and for some reason feel good in putting others down.

They're not exclusive to this sight. We deal with them as the bullying boss, the surly sister, bothersome brother, narcissistic neighbour and of course the road rager.

Demonland in its foresight and wisdom has provided us with the wonderful gift of the IGNORE option.

I wish I could use it in everyday life.

For what is worth WCW, your posts are always honest, fun, informative , polite and upbeat.

I thank you for them and all the work you do for the club which is probably more than anyone else posting here.

Cheers.

[layzie 29,308]

5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Disagreements occur on this site all the time. It's what makes things interesting.  The parry and thrust can be quite stimulating and educational. There are quite a few posters who have some wonderful insights and knowledge of the game and share it in generous ways. There are also others who simply lact tact and basic manners. In effect Demonland is a of course like all social media platforms a microcosm .

Some posters can argue with you or correct you in a polite and somtimes jovial manner ( just normal life skills)and of course there are those who through pride, anger or ar5olitis ( as my dad used to so succinctly call it), just cant and for some reason feel good in putting others down.

They're not exclusive to this sight. We deal with them as the bullying boss, the surly sister, bothersome brother, narcissistic neighbour and of course the road rager.

Demonland in its foresight and wisdom has provided us with the wonderful gift of the IGNORE option.

I wish I could use it in everyday life.

For what is worth WCW, your posts are always honest, fun, informative , polite and upbeat.

I thank you for them and all the work you do for the club which is probably more than anyone else posting here.

Cheers.

You're absolutely right Deever, it is something that has been a challenge for me personally but it's the disagreements that make this place the thinking forum that it is and not the slander and hogwash you see on social media.

It can be a challenge disagreeing in text, you just miss so many important aspects of a face to face discussion. You can take the most polite responses in text as an attack if you have the wrong mindset. It's all about having the right one.

[leave it to deever 16,013]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

You're absolutely right Deever, it is something that has been a challenge for me personally but it's the disagreements that make this place the thinking forum that it is and not the slander and hogwash you see on social media.

It can be a challenge disagreeing in text, you just miss so many important aspects of a face to face discussion. You can take the most polite responses in text as an attack if you have the wrong mindset. It's all about having the right one.

I resent that😀

 

[layzie 29,308]

Just now, leave it to deever said:

I resent that😀

 

I agree 100% but you're wrong! 😛

[WalkingCivilWar 32,841]

Just now, layzie said:

I agree 100% but you're wrong! 😛

You’re both wrong. Only I’m right. 

[Dee Zephyr 17,844]

You've all lost the plot.

 

[roy11 2,994]

32 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd think there is something to this story. He sounds like he's been having a rough trot lately. Whatever the issues he’s been dealing with have been.

I love Harmsey and I’d love nothing more than him to force his way back into the team, I do feel he’s worth having on the list and would like to hang on to him but I can see the other side. He’s found himself in a position where he doesn’t quite offer enough in terms of what our system requires. 

He still has time but I wouldn’t begrudge him exploring his options at season’s end. Will always be a key member of our success and much loved. 
 

Won a flag with the club he supported as a boy, most don't get a fairytale like that.

Worth having on the list but guess it all depends on what how he's ranked internally, list composition, salary cap issues and simultaneously if he can prolong his career at another club. Additionally if he wants more senior minutes due to his age. 

Not sure where he stands in the midfield pecking order now, especially as Pickett and Rivers have gone through the middle a few times AND we need to fit Salem back in this team somehow. 

 

[Kent 2,606]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Played his best game for Casey.

Looks to be developing nicely.

Thanks RL for the update

[leave it to deever 16,013]

6 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Won a flag with the club he supported as a boy, most don't get a fairytale like that.

Worth having on the list but guess it all depends on what how he's ranked internally, list composition, salary cap issues and simultaneously if he can prolong his career at another club. Additionally if he wants more senior minutes due to his age. 

Not sure where he stands in the midfield pecking order now, especially as Pickett and Rivers have gone through the middle a few times AND we need to fit Salem back in this team somehow. 

 

It's just a state of where the club is right now in terms of the number of players who can fill his spot. I will say as a sheer tagger he's probably our best but as a mid, it's tough out there. He will always be remembered for that sweet, sweet moment on the boundary line where that helped Fritta kick that goal that sparked our comeback to win the flag. May seem a small act and a weird way to define him but boy was I grateful at the time. I hope he stays but I think it would be detrimental to his career.

[Kiss of Death 708]

Quite happy to have Harmsey stay, I think he adds depth. 
Also quite happy for Harmsey to sign a fat final contract with a rival club, if we get good value out of it, and thank you for your service.

That GF pick-up, baulk and pass to Fritta will stick with me forever.