Jack Crisp

[Redleg 38,172]

1 hour ago, Demonsterative said:

The Pamela Anderson case was a VHS tape stolen by someone from her garage. Very different circumstances. The court case was about copyright. 

Inferred consent is a grey area. I would think anyone posting on the internet through a social media site believing it will never get out are kidding themselves, regardless of timelines. Particularly if you are ‘famous’. Stupidity IMO. 

The content is concerning and Eddie and others are turning this argument sideways as a crisis management strategy. Feeding drugs to a women for sexual pleasure is scary IMO 

No disagreement on the content, or what Eddie is trying to do.

[Redleg 38,172]

1 hour ago, Deestar9 said:

Where did it state 8 years ? Interested because I’ve read that there was some old stuff a few years ago but some of this is relatively new ..

It has been reported as being 8 years old from his time at Brisbane.

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

You mean William Randolph Hearst. I don’t know him well enough to call him by his middle name.

I just call him “Rosebud”.

[Little Goffy 12,829]

Tell you what,I'm just hugely comforted by the fact that spot betting and sports betting in general is so carefully restrained in the AFL space, otherwise the volume of kompromat floating around about players would be extremely troubling and a smouldering threat to the integrity of the game.

Imagine the great same-game-multi you could get going, each part on a seemingly plausible event, if it wasn't for the super-careful way gambling is being handled.

[Redleg 38,172]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I just call him “Rosebud”.

Now you are sounding like Orson Welles.

[layzie 30,016]

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Now you are sounding like Orson Welles.

Good film.

[Willmoy1947 3,823]

Not taking Collingwood's side with this, but it does appear a little more than coincidental that two sides, who, on appearances, would seem to be better than Brisbane, both have sustained  damaging personal information released about them with intent to do damage.

Maybe this has something to do with what is still being investigated  up their end......

[Mincho Mania 530]

News reports the incident was from 2018.

The AFL say nothing to see here, not even a fine. Is there a stench of double standards here?

[Lord Travis 10,298]

Outcome is Crisp has to apologize and do an education program. I’m sure that will stop him being a druggie sex pest though eh 🤣

Pathetic

[dees189227 11,132]

Dam I just wanted him to get suspended for at least 1 game so his streak ended. Oh well hoping he does an injury instead 

[layzie 30,016]

29 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Dam I just wanted him to get suspended for at least 1 game so his streak ended. Oh well hoping he does an injury instead 

So nothing? How about a club imposed suspension?

[gs77 3,454]

24 minutes ago, layzie said:

So nothing? How about a club imposed suspension?

Hard when that club seems to value that kind of behaviour.

[chookrat 3,812]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Outcome is Crisp has to apologize and do an education program. I’m sure that will stop him being a druggie sex pest though eh 🤣

Pathetic

Oh FFS, the video was from literally 5 years ago and given his extraordinary run of not missing a game in more than 5 seasons this is a reasonable indication that he id disciplined with his training and preparation are to a high standard. While I get there are exceptions where players can train and perform to an elite level with a drug problem, e.g. Ben Cousins, players with problems with drug addiction and partying too much tend to suffer recurring soft tissue injuries. Also in the 5 years since the video he has a partner and started a family of his own.

Its also a bit of a joke that the club has sent him on social media education for something that happened 5 years ago.

I don't mean to harp on about the way the AFL media report this sort of stuff but of you consider the incidents re Ross Lyon at Fremantle and also those involving executives and subordinates at AFL house, on one hand the player is plastered all over the papers over something that happened over 5 years ago while the senior staff and executives are afforded privacy.

[daisycutter 28,709]

well he can't be accused of bringing the club into disrepute

it would be impossible to bring the filth into any more disrepute than they currently have

[I'va Worn Smith 874]

Acknowledged, Crisp's so called incident was years ago, but it still amazes me why any AFL player  would subject themselves to any social media.  The only result can only end in tears. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by I'va Worn Smith

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,414]

18 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I don't mean to harp on about the way the AFL media report this sort of stuff but of you consider the incidents re Ross Lyon at Fremantle and also those involving executives and subordinates at AFL house, on one hand the player is plastered all over the papers over something that happened over 5 years ago while the senior staff and executives are afforded privacy.

Harp away...

The selective pile-ons are without logic... Including here on DL

The Perpetually Outraged on Behalf of Others (POBOs) need a hobbie target every so often.

De Goey going OK averaging 24 touches and 1+ goals this season...

[Redleg 38,172]

46 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Oh FFS, the video was from literally 5 years ago and given his extraordinary run of not missing a game in more than 5 seasons this is a reasonable indication that he id disciplined with his training and preparation are to a high standard. While I get there are exceptions where players can train and perform to an elite level with a drug problem, e.g. Ben Cousins, players with problems with drug addiction and partying too much tend to suffer recurring soft tissue injuries. Also in the 5 years since the video he has a partner and started a family of his own.

Its also a bit of a joke that the club has sent him on social media education for something that happened 5 years ago.

I don't mean to harp on about the way the AFL media report this sort of stuff but of you consider the incidents re Ross Lyon at Fremantle and also those involving executives and subordinates at AFL house, on one hand the player is plastered all over the papers over something that happened over 5 years ago while the senior staff and executives are afforded privacy.

What are you talking about, both AFL executives were sacked and the papers plastered it all over the front and back pages. Lost their jobs for having workplace affairs.

[Demonsterative 2,159]

56 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Oh FFS, the video was from literally 5 years ago and given his extraordinary run of not missing a game in more than 5 seasons this is a reasonable indication that he id disciplined with his training and preparation are to a high standard. While I get there are exceptions where players can train and perform to an elite level with a drug problem, e.g. Ben Cousins, players with problems with drug addiction and partying too much tend to suffer recurring soft tissue injuries. Also in the 5 years since the video he has a partner and started a family of his own.

Its also a bit of a joke that the club has sent him on social media education for something that happened 5 years ago.

I don't mean to harp on about the way the AFL media report this sort of stuff but of you consider the incidents re Ross Lyon at Fremantle and also those involving executives and subordinates at AFL house, on one hand the player is plastered all over the papers over something that happened over 5 years ago while the senior staff and executives are afforded privacy.

Never too late to learn a thing or two Chook. It maybe an experience that could be beneficial. The 5 year argument insinuates his values have changed. Subjective at best. 

[daisycutter 28,709]

should have been rubbed out for games just for being so incredibly stupid to post that muck on the web

once on the web, forever on the web

[DubDee 21,493]

nothing to do with footy. was years ago 

move on

[layzie 30,016]

Forever alone 

[Demonsterative 2,159]

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

nothing to do with footy. was years ago 

move on

History has a tendency to repeat itself and this is bigger than that footy. A generalised comment not directed at Crisp. 
 

[chookrat 3,812]

43 minutes ago, Redleg said:

What are you talking about, both AFL executives were sacked and the papers plastered it all over the front and back pages. Lost their jobs for having workplace affairs.

Re Simon Lethlean, the Herald Sun reported that the AFL made enquiries internally re the affair 18 weeks before he resigned. It took them 18 weeks to determine that Simon's role was untenable and then provided him with the option to resign for having an affair with a junior staff member.

My issues isn't with the affair itself but that it involved a senior executive having an affair with a more junior staff member. This is a very serious issue and much more serious than Jack Crisps conduct. The AFL knew it was going on for at least 18 weeks before they forced his resignation and it doesn't take alot of imagination to conclude that the AFL acted on Simon's conduct only when it became apparent that it would become public and they had no other course of action. If the more junior participant in the affair was not a willing participant, which I'm not suggesting in this case, there is every likelihood that the AFL would offer a settlement and require the victim to sign a confidentiality agreement.

Re Ross Lyon this is what was reported at the time.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/report-ross-lyons-alleged-harassment-remark-revealed/news-story/c82158ff776a960a50856d2f6bbc2c95

As a society we have a massive issue with this sort of conduct and a 23 year old behaving like an [censored] gets alot more airtime than the much more serious problem of senior managers and executives conducting themselves in this sort of manner, while being protected by their organisations for their conduct.

Re these sort of settlements I have a friend who has experienced sexual harrassment from a company director which led to probably the most traumatic 12 months of her life. She had to leave the job that she loved and the director is still at the company and his conduct has not been made public.

[Winners at last 4,906]

Good discussion.

I wonder if Joffa will be delivering the training sessions.

I hate the filth. So much .... 

[leave it to deever 16,399]

On 4/6/2023 at 8:04 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

old Melbourne Truth. 

Otherwise known as Strewth.

Edited April 11, 2023 by leave it to deever