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  On 04/10/2023 at 20:29, Kent said:

what is happening to Rory Lobb?

hopefully nothing to do with us

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      On 05/10/2023 at 10:47, JJJ said:

    I’ve only heard about McKay as a specific target. The leadership group was consulted and were a part of a pitch I believe.
    Other than that, a KF was a priority but no names. 

    i want to believe

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    If we can use JVR et al as backup rucks and we have Schache in reserve as an early signing surely Lobb is totally off the radar?

    Any interest in Haines at all? GWS are shopping hard.

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      On 05/10/2023 at 10:47, JJJ said:

    I’ve only heard about McKay as a specific target. The leadership group was consulted and were a part of a pitch I believe.
    Other than that, a KF was a priority but no names. 

    Perhaps I’m in the minority, but I think he’d be a perfect fit.

    With that said, Carlton and the Dees will both be fighting for the top four next year and they may be wary of possibly filling the only serious hole on our list.

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      On 05/10/2023 at 12:22, Norm Smith's Curse said:

    If we can use JVR et al as backup rucks and we have Schache in reserve as an early signing surely Lobb is totally off the radar?

    Any interest in Haines at all? GWS are shopping hard.

    Haynes is supposedly owed 1.5m next year.   

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      On 05/10/2023 at 20:15, Demons11 said:

    Haynes is supposedly owed 1.5m next year.   

    I wonder if you could talk the Giants into a similar deal with bowes. 

    If they upgrade our pick 13 to pick 6, and we take on his Salary given we're opening up some nice cap space

    I think this could be a smart move given we're clearly not planning a big signing in the next 12 months, he would at the very least provide some experience and depth and we could take on the 1.2 million or whatever it is for next year which would appeal to the Giants 

    we could then dangle 5, 6 and our future first under the Eagles nose and see if we can still prize Harley Reid out of the Eagles

     

     

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      On 05/10/2023 at 20:48, Dwight Schrute said:

    I wonder if you could talk the Giants into a similar deal with bowes. 

    If they upgrade our pick 13 to pick 6, and we take on his Salary given we're opening up some nice cap space

    I think this could be a smart move given we're clearly not planning a big signing in the next 12 months, he would at the very least provide some experience and depth and we could take on the 1.2 million or whatever it is for next year which would appeal to the Giants 

    we could then dangle 5, 6 and our future first under the Eagles nose and see if we can still prize Harley Reid out of the Eagles

     

     

    Something says your desire to come up with a deal is overtaking realism  in this proposed trade. 

    Why should Melb pay $1.2 to Giants who have overpaid some of their top players for years so they can keep them and now Haines is yesterday's fish and chips wrapper. Just because we want Harley Reid.  There are probably easier ways of getting hold of another top 10 pick and Suns and Cats might be a chance.

    And how do you know Melb might not prefer and be ready to throw $1.1 mill at a Harry McKay or other key forward. 

    JT and his crew would be all over this I reckon and we may find out any moves over the next few trade days. 

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      On 05/10/2023 at 20:48, Dwight Schrute said:

    I wonder if you could talk the Giants into a similar deal with bowes. 

    If they upgrade our pick 13 to pick 6, and we take on his Salary given we're opening up some nice cap space

    I think this could be a smart move given we're clearly not planning a big signing in the next 12 months, he would at the very least provide some experience and depth and we could take on the 1.2 million or whatever it is for next year which would appeal to the Giants 

    we could then dangle 5, 6 and our future first under the Eagles nose and see if we can still prize Harley Reid out of the Eagles

     

     

    You could probably cop $1m for 1 year and Giants have already said they would contribute and then give a much worse pick, say our 2nd rounder, for their 6. I wouldn’t give 13.

    I also see us trading picks up and 13 is too valuable for what we might ultimately need to get done.

    I am still hopeful of 11 from Swans for Grundy and spices.

    With currently 5, 13, 23 and 31 plus picks to come, we could really get into a very good position, for something we had no chance of doing.

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    After all this we’ll likely lose Jordan, Harmes, Grundy, swap a few draft picks and go to the draft. Feels like we’ve missed Reid and surely McKay’s not going anywhere. Curnow for all his excellence was a complete bust when it really mattered. Carlton won’t ship McKay off unless it’s a godfather deal and we ain’t giving them that……or are we?

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      On 05/10/2023 at 22:38, Roost it far said:

    After all this we’ll likely lose Jordan, Harmes, Grundy, swap a few draft picks and go to the draft. Feels like we’ve missed Reid and surely McKay’s not going anywhere. Curnow for all his excellence was a complete bust when it really mattered. Carlton won’t ship McKay off unless it’s a godfather deal and we ain’t giving them that……or are we?

    Marlon Brando Don Corleone GIF by The Godfather

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    I heard yesterday that we weren't even talking with Naughton's management. So not sure where that rumor started. I believe the interested clubs that ultimately led to his extension were Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and Sydney. Sydney reportedly put in an offer of $11M-$12M for 10 years for his services. That is crazy.

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    Couple of things mentioned on trade radio this am on the commute:

    Concerns that with the deal to Naughton and then English that they might not be able to keep ammara Ugle-Hagan.

    Beast Mode Angry Phil Read version 2 - Rhys Matheison may also be looking for new opportunities. I know he can attack people but is he fast? kick?

     

     

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    Hear me out. Rookie spot for Mathieson just to play 1 game against Collingwood, matching up on Maynard. No specific instructions of course beyond 'just be yourself'.

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    Amazing how quickly footy is changing.  10 years ago a 5 year deal was fairly rare and breaking a contract was uncommon

    No teams just sign their guns up to 7-8 year deals to avoid losing them to FA

    and players having 3 or more clubs is becoming not that unusual

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    Fullarton huh? 200cm fwd ex basketballer

    played 19 games for 6 goals.  no games this year due to injury or Lions having too many talls? not sure

    Long term prospect and hopefully not the last tall we grab

    3rd-4th round pick id imagine

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    Former Junior Australian Basketball Captain.  Last played in the semi against us last year. Can take a mark and a reasonable kick for a big guy.

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      On 05/10/2023 at 23:19, DubDee said:

    Fullarton huh? 200cm fwd ex basketballer

    played 19 games for 6 goals.  no games this year due to injury or Lions having too many talls? not sure

    Long term prospect and hopefully not the last tall we grab

    3rd-4th round pick id imagine

    Can’t imagine it’s more than potato chips. Out of contract, is their 4th string ruck and their 4th string key forward. 

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    With both Tim English and JUH coming out of contract next year and the huge cap squeeze they will undoubtedly had. Which one do you chase? I dont think either qualify for FA, so it will be a Jackson scenario. 

    Who do the Doggies chose as i think they will need to make a choice. English is a versatile ruck/forward, who will probably take over the ruck domination when Gawn retires. I cant see many challenging for the AA ruck position for the next 3-4 years. 

    JUH on the other hand has really been underwhelming. Perhaps he isn't suited to playing in the same forward line as Naughton ? Or he was just overrated. I think he is the better target to chase as the Doggies do have a excess of KPF stocks. 

    So it'll be JUH, Ben King, Cadman all potentially uncontracted after 2024. We should be lining up to land one of these prospects. 

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      On 05/10/2023 at 22:47, Norm Smith's Curse said:

     

    Beast Mode Angry Phil Read version 2 - Rhys Matheison may also be looking for new opportunities. I know he can attack people but is he fast? kick?

     

     

    God please no! 
     

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      On 05/10/2023 at 22:46, Gawndy the Great said:

    I heard yesterday that we weren't even talking with Naughton's management. So not sure where that rumor started. I believe the interested clubs that ultimately led to his extension were Collingwood, Geelong, West Coast and Sydney. Sydney reportedly put in an offer of $11M-$12M for 10 years for his services. That is crazy.

    If true it's not crazy, it's totally insane. He is not Buddy Franklin at his peak.

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      On 05/10/2023 at 23:19, DubDee said:

    Fullarton huh? 200cm fwd ex basketballer

    played 19 games for 6 goals.  no games this year due to injury or Lions having too many talls? not sure

    Long term prospect and hopefully not the last tall we grab

    3rd-4th round pick id imagine

    Possibly the steak knives from another deal perhaps  ? 

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