On 22/09/2023 at 07:37, Redleg said:

He is streets ahead of McKay and got a fat contract from the Hawks. A premiership full back.

Not sure his contract was anywhere near what McKays would be.  Frawley went for success not dollars 

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:49, Demons11 said:

Not sure his contract was anywhere near what McKays would be.  Frawley went for success not dollars 

Also, if you compare their body of work at same stage, Frawley is streets ahead of McKay.

Was an AA defender and 130+ games under his belt. Roos played him out of position in his last season and he still was one of our better players up forward (a few games of 10+ marks in a pretty moribund fwd line).

Went on to play 100 games for Hawks including premierships. Bizarre that people say Dees were given overgenerous compensation. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:49, Demons11 said:

Not sure his contract was anywhere near what McKays would be.  Frawley went for success not dollars 

He went for $2.2m over 4 years at $550k per year in 2014, which is worth $750k per year in today’s dollar purchase equivalent.

Pretty similar to McKay’s rumoured contract of $800k from Hawks, which he knocked back for less from Bombers, except that Frawley was a far superior footballer.

  On 22/09/2023 at 08:14, Redleg said:

He went for $2.2m over 4 years at $550k per year in 2014, which is worth $750k per year in today’s dollar purchase equivalent.

Pretty similar to McKay’s rumoured contract of $800k from Hawks, which he knocked back for less from Bombers, except that Frawley was a far superior footballer.

Exactly the same money and I assume less years for Frawley.  I am very much one eyed but if anyone thinks that the AFL didn’t over compensate us for Frawley than they are delusional

  On 22/09/2023 at 09:03, Demons11 said:

Exactly the same money and I assume less years for Frawley.  I am very much one eyed but if anyone thinks that the AFL didn’t over compensate us for Frawley than they are delusional

They probably did, but we were garbage too.

However, I don't remember any additional pick, like the 11 that is being rumoured as an extra sweetener and still another sweetener, like Sanders being added late to North's NGA.

Frawley had played 139 games in 8 years when he left us. Average 17.5 games a year.

MvKay has played 71 in 7 years. Average 10.1 games per year.

We lost a lot more for pick 3, than they will lose for pick 3 and 11.

Edited September 22, 20231 yr by Redleg

  On 22/09/2023 at 09:06, Redleg said:

They probably did, but we were garbage too.

However, I don't remember any additional pick, like the 11 that is being rumoured as an extra sweetener and still another sweetener, like Sanders being added late to North's NGA.

I agree on that point, we didn’t get anything else on top of it

  On 22/09/2023 at 09:12, Demons11 said:

I agree on that point, we didn’t get anything else on top of it

If the AFL do give North 3 and 11 they have gone mad, or are madder than I thought they were.

North have the basis of a good side and after this off season will be even stronger.

Edited September 22, 20231 yr by Redleg

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:31, Demons11 said:

In fairness we got band 1 compo for Frawley and there was no way he was worth it 

Frawley had been an All Australian for the Dees.  Mckay is a long long long way off that ranking.  

  On 22/09/2023 at 09:14, Redleg said:

If the AFL do give North 3 and 11 they have gone mad, or are madder than I thought they were.

North have the basis of a good side and after this off season will be even stronger.

👍agree.  I don’t think they’ll get 11

Loving the rumours guys. 😄

  On 21/09/2023 at 03:26, Lord Travis said:

8 seasons. Drafted end of 2015. Makes it even more damning that a player has only just made it to 70 games after 8 seasons on a list as he’s constantly injured. He’s also below average when he does get on the park, and at one stage mid year had lost more one on one contests than any other defender in the league. He’s not athletically gifted either. He’s worth a third rounder. He’s basically a less durable and worse version of Tomlinson. It’s mind blowing he could get them first round compo or that any team is willing to pay him more than 200-300k. 

Right you are. I was counting seasons where he got on the park. But considering he’s getting a salary and a list spot, 8 seasons it is. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:14, BaliDemon said:

Love a good trade rumour Nudge but these days claims of knowing someone ‘AT’ the club can be very tenuous. There are posters said to be from the Dees cheersquad in other threads claiming to basically have a direct line to Goody and Richo, so hard not to take a lot of ‘inside’ info on Demonland with a grain of salt. 

Keep the rumours coming though. They’re fun and who knows you might just hit paydirt! 

Gooday Bali, just wondering if you are into the readings of the Japanese poet Matsuo Basho.

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:05, spirit of norm smith said:

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

Sick of being the good corporate citizen - Maynard debacle, umpires , heading to kardinia year after year

Anyway, I feel like player compo has gotten very very frothy like 2000 dot com stocks or AI stocks now or marketing company Vals of 5 years ago

You would think that the Dogs would be active in the trade market. Terrible defence and arguably surplus forwards. Add in a desperate coach.

Demons ...cooking.

Grundy and Curtis were cooking up Lamb the other day... probably doesn't count now huh..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 10:03, goodwindees said:

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

So, how about we pay 200k of Grundy’s salary for 3-4 years and in return the Swans pay JJ another 200k per year and boost his compo.

 

  On 22/09/2023 at 10:03, goodwindees said:

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

It was bizarre for Port to roll out Butters and Rozee. Like does Grundy really care? So strange. 
 

  On 22/09/2023 at 10:03, goodwindees said:

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

Love Butters as a player, but reckon his chat would be horrendous. It'd be like us bringing Oliver to a meeting.

  On 22/09/2023 at 10:13, DeeSpencer said:

So, how about we pay 200k of Grundy’s salary for 3-4 years and in return the Swans pay JJ another 200k per year and boost his compo.

 

I’d imagine a ruck would care that he’s joining 2 All Aus 23 year old mids who will be the future leaders of a club.

Could also see the question of where Wines and Jonas are 

Personally I imagine lifestyle is a factor but also the Swans game plan suits Grundy better, as does the SCG 

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:36, Dwight Schrute said:

Personally i think West Coast will get getting Daniel Curtin as well, so one way or another i suspect North will end up with Harley Reid 

Over here in WA Adrian Barich who is the Perth Demons President and good friends with the Curtins has said Curtin to North is basically done as the Eagles have all but confirmed they will take Reid with 1 (they've had no offers for pick 1 from anyone, not even North).

Jack Darling to the Dees. Two big years.  He’d be a huge addition whilst we’re in the window. With 50+ inside 50s every week, he’d kick 3-4 goals regularly each week.  Cost ? a future 2nd round?????

Edited September 22, 20231 yr by spirit of norm smith
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  On 22/09/2023 at 11:00, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Darling to the Dees. Two big years.  He’d be a huge addition whilst we’re in the window. With 50+ inside 50s every week, he’d kick 3-4 goals regularly each week.  Cost ? a future 2nd round?????

Does he come with a Time Machine to get him back to 2018. He’s cooked 

  On 22/09/2023 at 11:00, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Darling to the Dees. Two big years.  He’d be a huge addition whilst we’re in the window. With 50+ inside 50s every week, he’d kick 3-4 goals regularly each week.  Cost ? a future 2nd round?? Yea  

He is cooked wouldn't go any where near him

  On 22/09/2023 at 10:03, goodwindees said:

Guys, I can let you know that the lifestyle story around Grundy to Sydney is not quite correct. More accurately is that Longmire impressed far more than Hinkley and the two 23 year olds Ken brought to the meeting. 

It is also looking likely that JJ will also select the Swans. 

So even though JJ is a FA, I wonder if there is some deal if he goes there, that gives us 11.