On 22/09/2023 at 04:52, Stiff Arm said:

Trade rumours thread poster playbook:

1. Post a wide range of possibilities with sufficient plausible deniabilities, or use a vague riddle

2. Give little indication of source beyond "inside the club" or someone's grandmother

3. Claim to have some successes in the past, despite not really being the case

4. Define the word 'rumour' as justification

5. Generate reader interest, because what else is there to do when we're finished?

6. Work into a frenzy in the lead up to trade week, but remind us of *

7. Back peddle after trade week when 99% of the rumours fall flat

8. Post little for 12 months, rinse and repeat

I can imagine you reading glossy magazines in a doctor’s waiting room, and yelling “This is preposterous!”  

  On 22/09/2023 at 05:16, Binmans PA said:

Don't read the thread then.

Thanks Dad

  On 22/09/2023 at 05:47, Stiff Arm said:

Thanks Dad

You certainly post like a child mate.

  On 22/09/2023 at 05:48, Binmans PA said:

You certainly post like a child mate.

Then dont read my posts Dad

Few people in here think the forum/posters owe them something.

Strange place to be.

Hopefully we can pull something off so we don’t have to be reading this thread in September 2024

Edited September 22, 20231 yr by BW511

  On 22/09/2023 at 02:05, Nudge said:

The hill stuff was 💯 from someone AT the club AT the time,

Love a good trade rumour Nudge but these days claims of knowing someone ‘AT’ the club can be very tenuous. There are posters said to be from the Dees cheersquad in other threads claiming to basically have a direct line to Goody and Richo, so hard not to take a lot of ‘inside’ info on Demonland with a grain of salt. 

Keep the rumours coming though. They’re fun and who knows you might just hit paydirt! 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:14, BaliDemon said:

Love a good trade rumour Nudge but these days claims of knowing someone ‘AT’ the club can be very tenuous. There are posters said to be from the Dees cheersquad in other threads claiming to basically have a direct line to Goody and Richo, so hard not to take a lot of ‘inside’ info on Demonland with a grain of salt. 

Keep the rumours coming though. They’re fun and who knows you might just hit paydirt! 

Way to go with the sly dig, great to see you’re really making an effort to grow up. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:23, Roost it far said:

Way to go with the sly dig, great to see you’re really making an effort to grow up. 

You again? It’s becoming a little bit stalkerish now bud. Let it go. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:23, Roost it far said:

Way to go with the sly dig, great to see you’re really making an effort to grow up. 

Sealioning RIF as binman explained. 
 

best not to poke him 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:28, Demonsterative said:

Sealioning RIF as binman explained. 
 

best not to poke him 

Had to look that term up

Thanks! 

Ben McKay has chosen Essendon. Allegedly they offered less than Hawthorn. Fingers crossed it doesn't trigger band 1 but all the noise still points towards it.

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:45, Nascent said:

Ben McKay has chosen Essendon. Allegedly they offered less than Hawthorn. Fingers crossed it doesn't trigger band 1 but all the noise still points towards it.

Yeh will be interesting, aren't the AFL considering an assistance package to North?

Compensation could be part of that?

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:45, Nascent said:

Ben McKay has chosen Essendon. Allegedly they offered less than Hawthorn. Fingers crossed it doesn't trigger band 1 but all the noise still points towards it.

IMO he is a very ordinary footballer and I would imagine his contract is going to get a few noses out of joint, among his new team mates.

Might be a good time to scour the Bombers list for a disgruntled player, in an area we are light on in.

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:47, Cheap Seats said:

Yeh will be interesting, aren't the AFL considering an assistance package to North?

Compensation could be part of that?

They are but the assistance they receive will be separate from free agency compensation.

That's not to say they won't influence or manipulate free agency compensation to what they want

Strong talk of pick 11 and even future picks being a part of an assistance package.

Could leave north with picks 2, 3, 11 and 14.

11 and 14 is probably the strongest hand for gold coast picks 4 (5 after fa compo)

They could very well end up with 2, 3 and 5.

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:05, spirit of norm smith said:

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

You forgot to mention they have the widely agreed best Coach in the game as well.

  On 22/09/2023 at 05:01, SthSea22 said:

Shiel to StK for cap space

This one is dodgy!!. Hope it's not cleared by the AFL... it's borderline tampering IMO. They offload Shiel and a high-ish pick, in return they pay Gresham (as a free agent) more than he is worth, and as a result the Saints get a 1st round compo is how it reads to me.
So basically Essendon are going to pay Gresham the same as they paid Shiel, they get a good pick from the Saints for doing it. In return the Saints land a higher compo pick than they deserve or would otherwise receive for a player like Gresham.

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:05, spirit of norm smith said:

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

Don't forget this justification from the afl as well.

 

Melbourne has a high level of young talent including Jesse Hogan, Jimmy Toumpas, Jack Viney (father/son selection at 2012 draft), Jay Kennedy-Harris, Christian Salem and Dom Tyson.

- Melbourne was able to attract a number of experienced players during the 2013 Exchange period including Dom Tyson (2nd best and fairest), Bernie Vince (3rd best and fairest), Daniel Cross (5th best and fairest), Viv Michie (from Fremantle) and Aidan Riley (from Adelaide);

- Melbourne may be able to trade Mitch Clark for another player or a draft pick and will receive a compensation pick if they lose any players to free agency

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:05, spirit of norm smith said:

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

It seems a lot but take pick 2 and Sanders approval out of the equation. Pick 2 is their rightful pick and word from Cal Twomey is they are unlikely to get Sanders approval. 

So effectively they are getting pick 3 in and losing McKay, plus an assistance/concession pick 11. As hard as it is to do, put yourself in their shoes for a moment. They’ve won what 12 games and lost 77 over the past 4 years? That’s a bad run and a lot of pain for their supporters any way you slice it. 

The AFL can’t be helping Gold Coast like they did and not North Melbourne. The league had to have a mechanism whereby they can address serious list issues at struggling clubs. The natural equalisation process of the draft is just not going to do the job sometimes. 

I think we’re just a bit dirty as Melbourne supporters that we didn’t get as well looked after back in the early 2010’s when all got was pick 3 (Gus Brayshaw) for James Frawley (Free Agent). We didn’t get that extra mid first round pick (11) that the Kangas look like they’re going to receive.

Whatever, I would lose any sleep over it. Not all those young North players you’ve listed will be superstars, but they’ll certainly have the nucleus of a side in 2-3 seasons which should challenge for the top 8. And that’s probably how it should be. You can’t have the same miserable clubs anchored to the bottom four for 10 plus years. 

  On 22/09/2023 at 06:58, Redleg said:

IMO he is a very ordinary footballer and I would imagine his contract is going to get a few noses out of joint, among his new team mates.

Might be a good time to scour the Bombers list for a disgruntled player, in an area we are light on in.

Peter wright

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:27, BDA said:

Peter wright

Signed a long extension, so no way.

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:05, spirit of norm smith said:

North seeking pick 3 compo for Mckay

North seeking pick 11 mid first round charity

North seeking access to Sanders via NGA with a special charitable exception to match any bid 

North has pick 2 

North already has LDU, Simpkin, Wardlaw, Larkey, Sheezel , Thomas and Phillips. 
 

Msybe give them 12 bonus points at the start of next year   
 

ps  AFL response to Dees in 2014 after asking for assistance 

AFL concluded that while Melbourne has a poor on field record in recent times, this does not of itself constitute “exceptional circumstances” or a justification for awarding priority draft selections.

In fairness we got band 1 compo for Frawley and there was no way he was worth it 

It would  seem Charlie Spargo is to remain a Demon……I for one am happy with that.

Personally i think West Coast will get getting Daniel Curtin as well, so one way or another i suspect North will end up with Harley Reid 

  On 22/09/2023 at 07:31, Demons11 said:

In fairness we got band 1 compo for Frawley and there was no way he was worth it 

He is streets ahead of McKay and got a fat contract from the Hawks. A premiership full back.