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  On 12/01/2023 at 09:58, daisycutter said:

how is not having any reserved seats to sell a "clever strategy"?

What do you expect them to do? They have an allocation that is sold out. Put more seats on the roof of the g?

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    There is no chance that reserved seating allocation has sold out. The southern stand reserved seating area was less 50% full for most games last year.

    More likely they have reached the limit for Grand Final guarantees, which must be purchased by anyone wanting a reserved seat.

    If there is anyone with half a brain at the club they will release further reserved seats without needing to buy the GFG as well. There are many people who cannot justify this level of expenditure on a yearly basis - and let's be honest, we are hardly winning premierships at the rate of Geelong or Hawthorn over the past 20 years.

    As an aside, I am a 38 year member who has had a reserved seat for as long as I remember and who has automatic rollover and monthly direct debit of my membership. After being forced into buying a GFG last year to keep my reserved seat, I cancelled the reserved seat and automatic rollover at the end of last season.

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

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      On 01/02/2023 at 01:54, wonnabeeri said:

    What do you expect them to do? They have an allocation that is sold out. Put more seats on the roof of the g?

    ru serious?

    plenty of seats they could negotiate for with mcg

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      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months

    And I’m still awaiting delivery of mine and my son’s interstate membership packs! I’ll be calling them tomorrow, but this on top of today’s training fiasco, are giving me a bad feeling about the public facing part of the club’s administration.

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      On 31/01/2023 at 22:03, Deemac said:

    My wife’s a pies fan so didn want to leave it to chance  ðŸ˜‚ 

    Gosh Deemac that was risky!. My understanding of genetics is shaky but with red-blue-white-black genes you could have even ended up with offspring having gene expression for Western Bulldogs, Norf, Geelong, Carlton or worse Essendon! Good solution though!

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      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    There is no chance that reserved seating allocation has sold out. The southern stand reserved seating area was less 50% full for most games last year.

    More likely they have reached the limit for Grand Final guarantees, which must be purchased by anyone wanting a reserved seat.

    If there is anyone with half a brain at the club they will release further reserved seats without needing to buy the GFG as well. There are many people who cannot justify this level of expenditure on a yearly basis - and let's be honest, we are hardly winning premierships at the rate of Geelong or Hawthorn over the past 20 years.

    As an aside, I am a 38 year member who has had a reserved seat for as long as I remember and who has automatic rollover and monthly direct debit of my membership. After being forced into buying a GFG last year to keep my reserved seat, I cancelled the reserved seat and automatic rollover at the end of last season.

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

    Gees Poita after all our years in the Wilderness there is no way I am giving up my Reserved seats whilst we are in the window. 38 years is a long time my friend, I tried to get two extra seats in Redlegs last year to no avail, I am pretty sure that MFC would source extra seats if they were available they want as many premium memberships as they can get.!!!

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      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    There is no chance that reserved seating allocation has sold out. The southern stand reserved seating area was less 50% full for most games last year.

    More likely they have reached the limit for Grand Final guarantees, which must be purchased by anyone wanting a reserved seat.

    If there is anyone with half a brain at the club they will release further reserved seats without needing to buy the GFG as well. There are many people who cannot justify this level of expenditure on a yearly basis - and let's be honest, we are hardly winning premierships at the rate of Geelong or Hawthorn over the past 20 years.

    As an aside, I am a 38 year member who has had a reserved seat for as long as I remember and who has automatic rollover and monthly direct debit of my membership. After being forced into buying a GFG last year to keep my reserved seat, I cancelled the reserved seat and automatic rollover at the end of last season.

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

    Not full does not mean not sold. I'm reserved seat and only made it to 3 games last year.

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    The club will announce a 2023 target of 70,000 then sell just enough 3 game $13 memberships at the back end of the season to make sure we reach it. Simples. 

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      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    There is no chance that reserved seating allocation has sold out. The southern stand reserved seating area was less 50% full for most games last year.

    More likely they have reached the limit for Grand Final guarantees, which must be purchased by anyone wanting a reserved seat.

    If there is anyone with half a brain at the club they will release further reserved seats without needing to buy the GFG as well. There are many people who cannot justify this level of expenditure on a yearly basis - and let's be honest, we are hardly winning premierships at the rate of Geelong or Hawthorn over the past 20 years.

    As an aside, I am a 38 year member who has had a reserved seat for as long as I remember and who has automatic rollover and monthly direct debit of my membership. After being forced into buying a GFG last year to keep my reserved seat, I cancelled the reserved seat and automatic rollover at the end of last season.

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

    There are many reserved seat holders that either don't use all their seats every week, for whatever reason, or are inside the member functions that they hold during the year. For instance, I have 6 Legends memberships but usually there are only 2 used, the other members of my family don't attend, for various reasons. If you have cancelled your reserved seat, I doubt you'll be able to get another one, they are really hard to get.

    Like many others I still haven't received my 2023 memberships and it's getting close.

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    When Kate Roffey was on RSN the other week she mentioned having over 60000 members but I'm not sure if that was the 2022 final or 2023 progress. It wasn't clear and the 75000 target was mentioned.

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      On 06/02/2023 at 00:26, Dante said:

    There are many reserved seat holders that either don't use all their seats every week, for whatever reason, or are inside the member functions that they hold during the year. For instance, I have 6 Legends memberships but usually there are only 2 used, the other members of my family don't attend, for various reasons. If you have cancelled your reserved seat, I doubt you'll be able to get another one, they are really hard to get.

    Like many others I still haven't received my 2023 memberships and it's getting close.

    Someone else may know - am I correct to think that NBA members sell their seat for each game if they don't attend?

    Could this potential happen in our case. Perhaps GA members could upgrade for a game?

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      On 07/02/2023 at 06:48, Pottsydee said:

    Someone else may know - am I correct to think that NBA members sell their seat for each game if they don't attend?

    Could this potential happen in our case. Perhaps GA members could upgrade for a game?

    I don’t think we could, not that I would anyway. We are not even allowed to give the seats away, especially if it is to an opposition club supporter. 
     

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      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    There is no chance that reserved seating allocation has sold out. The southern stand reserved seating area was less 50% full for most games last year.

    More likely they have reached the limit for Grand Final guarantees, which must be purchased by anyone wanting a reserved seat.

    If there is anyone with half a brain at the club they will release further reserved seats without needing to buy the GFG as well. There are many people who cannot justify this level of expenditure on a yearly basis - and let's be honest, we are hardly winning premierships at the rate of Geelong or Hawthorn over the past 20 years.

    As an aside, I am a 38 year member who has had a reserved seat for as long as I remember and who has automatic rollover and monthly direct debit of my membership. After being forced into buying a GFG last year to keep my reserved seat, I cancelled the reserved seat and automatic rollover at the end of last season.

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

    I've been getting emails about renewing on a couple of memberships I didn't rollover for differing reasons so not sure why you haven't received anything.

    On the reserved seats I wonder if the issue is they've sold out the GFGs so any future reserve seats won't have this add-on thereby reducing the value of the membership. So they may have to reduce the price of those reserve seat memberships? Either that or they're still waiting on people to confirm if they're renewing them or not?

    Either way seems strange no figures have been released yet.

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      On 12/01/2023 at 15:37, Deemac said:

    Does anyone know what you get in the baby demon pack? I had a baby a month ago and still waiting on the package to arrive 

    Not much, got my little one as a member and he got stickers, a plush MFC footy and that's it.

      On 01/02/2023 at 04:30, poita said:

    At this point I am yet to receive any communication from the club to rejoin as a member. If they are not prepared to put any effort to keep supporters who have spent many thousands of dollars on memberships over a long period of time, then I cannot comprehend what our membership department has been doing in recent months.

     

    I am joining as a member again as I finally have the funds for it after 5 years of not being a member, after being one for over 10 years never got a call to rejoin. Was hoping I'd be important enough to get a call from a player in their membership drive, alas it didn't happen. Don't hold your breath for any contact.

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      On 07/02/2023 at 06:48, Pottsydee said:

    Someone else may know - am I correct to think that NBA members sell their seat for each game if they don't attend?

    Could this potential happen in our case. Perhaps GA members could upgrade for a game?

    As I understand it in the NBA if you cannot attend the club takes back the seat and onsells to someone on your behalf. Seems sane to me. 

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      On 10/02/2023 at 11:39, Dr. Gonzo said:

    I've been getting emails about renewing on a couple of memberships I didn't rollover for differing reasons so not sure why you haven't received anything.

    On the reserved seats I wonder if the issue is they've sold out the GFGs so any future reserve seats won't have this add-on thereby reducing the value of the membership. So they may have to reduce the price of those reserve seat memberships? Either that or they're still waiting on people to confirm if they're renewing them or not?

    Either way seems strange no figures have been released yet.

    Reduce the price surely you jest, put the gfg seats up is more likely. 

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      On 12/02/2023 at 05:00, old dee said:

    Reduce the price surely you jest, put the gfg seats up is more likely. 

    Of course but the thing is those GFG seats have already been sold at the normal price. So what to do?

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    HeraldSun reports (p 60) that we are on 44,552 members - 11th - (with a target of 75,000).

    Interesting that Collingwood and West Coast (in the top 3 around 100,000) are listed as 'did not divulge'.

    The AFL holds all the records, so treat it all with caution.

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      On 18/02/2023 at 23:19, Hawk the Demon said:

    HeraldSun reports (p 60) that we are on 44,552 members - 11th - (with a target of 75,000).

    Interesting that Collingwood and West Coast (in the top 3 around 100,000) are listed as 'did not divulge'.

    The AFL holds all the records, so treat it all with caution.

    That would put us around the same mark as last year judging by the OP in this thread.

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      On 19/02/2023 at 00:35, Dr. Gonzo said:

    That would put us around the same mark as last year judging by the OP in this thread.

    Yes it would, but I wonder if the HS information has come from the Club or the AFL, given George has been lacking information from the Club this year?

    From my previous posts you will appreciate I doubt the accuracy of these membership numbers in respect of all clubs.

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    @daisycutterI think the Reserved seat referred to is the usual 'Ticket

      On 19/02/2023 at 03:13, daisycutter said:

    just got this email

    what's it all about?

    where have the seats come from if all sold out?

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    That is very vague. 

    I doubt it relates to the season long memberships that have reserved seats.

    My guess is the 'reserved seat upgrade' is the usual option on Ticketmaster for GA members.  Pay a small amount extra and get a reserved seat for just for that game.

    But I'm guessing

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      On 19/02/2023 at 04:04, Lucifers Hero said:

    @daisycutterI think the Reserved seat referred to is the usual 'Ticket

    That is very vague. 

    I doubt it relates to the season long memberships that have reserved seats.

    My guess is the 'reserved seat upgrade' is the usual option on Ticketmaster for GA members.  Pay a small amount extra and get a reserved seat for just for that game.

    But I'm guessing

    maybe, luci, but where are the seats coming from. can't buy a membership with reserved seats (even with GFG)

    the mysteries of ticketing and memberships

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      On 19/02/2023 at 04:12, daisycutter said:

    maybe, luci, but where are the seats coming from. can't buy a membership with reserved seats (even with GFG)

    There has always been large chunks of the stadium available for sale via Ticketmaster as GA seats or reserved seats.  The better the seat, the bigger the game the higher the price.  Anyone can buy them. 

    So my read of the email is that if a mfc GA member wants to upgrade to a reserved seat for any particular game they use their barcodes to buy it from Ticketmaster.

    I hear your implied question:  Why can't mfc be allocated more bays and sell to members who buy an annual membership.

    Like you, it doesn't make sense to me to restrict the number of premium/reserved seat memberships when so much of the stadium will be available for week to week sales.  Would love to know how many reserved seats Coll and Rich have for their 100,000+ members.  I would bet a lot more than mfc have!!

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    I know that calling in for a  membership renewal is not  modern practice but I like to do it this way, the way I used to be able to do.

    When I do so these days I'm not getting the MFC but something less personal from poorly trained phone people. Could be offshore for all I know. And a very long wait time, every time. For three years.

    There have been multiple screw ups in me trying to join up and including my 3 grand kids three years in a row now - getting their names wrong, sending half a membership package, promising to make it up to them with a signed photo which never arrived - and so I've pulled out, sorry to say.

    What a schemozzle!

    My heart has beaten true from the day I could see the Dees in  black and white newsprint and in grainy photos in the late fifties.

    Now my disappointment with the modern systems has led me to the only possible decision :

    1.drop the  three junior memberships altogether

    2. cancel my own.                                                                                                                                                                                                      My first membership card which was punched at the gate for nearly every game in 1964 has disappeared. What great memorabilia it was. (At 1/6d for 18 games this worked out at just over one guinea. About $2.70.)

    I don't intend to join up for a while but will remain a committed, dedicated, die-hard barracker  from now on as compared to being a supporter.

    Good luck to all and Go Dees!!

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