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  On 25/07/2023 at 09:30, layzie said:

Absolute balls, was really hoping Howes could crack a debut this year.

Probably too late now anyway.
Doubt we will see anymore debuts this year. 

 

Oliver 2-3. At the rate he’s progressing it’ll be 1-2 weeks in 9 months 🙄

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      On 25/07/2023 at 09:33, Jaded No More said:

    Probably too late now anyway.
    Doubt we will see anymore debuts this year. 

     

    Oliver 2-3. At the rate he’s progressing it’ll be 1-2 weeks in 9 months 🙄

    just love your optimism, jaded

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    Injury List: Round 20

    Harry Petty - Ribs  | Test
    Clayton Oliver - Hamstring | 2 - 3 Weeks
    Tom McDonald - Ankle | 2 - 3 Weeks
    Kye Turner - Groin | 3 - 4 Weeks
    Bayley Fritsch - Foot | 4 - 5 Weeks
    Daniel Turner - Hand | 4 - 5 Weeks
    Blake Howes - Hand | Season 

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    2 years with no senior footy for Howes, bit of a shame, looks a classy player and a bit of a point of difference

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      On 25/07/2023 at 10:46, Chelly said:

    Injury List: Round 20

    Harry Petty - Ribs  | Test
    Clayton Oliver - Hamstring | 2 - 3 Weeks
    Tom McDonald - Ankle | 2 - 3 Weeks
    Kye Turner - Groin | 3 - 4 Weeks
    Bayley Fritsch - Foot | 4 - 5 Weeks
    Daniel Turner - Hand | 4 - 5 Weeks
    Blake Howes - Hand | Season 

    No mention of Jake Bowey who copped a knock in the game vs Adelaide which makes him favourite for the mystery injury for this week.

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      On 25/07/2023 at 07:24, Demonland said:

    Explain this then.

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    How much better does LJ look in our jumped than Freo's? You made a mistake, LJ.

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      On 25/07/2023 at 11:00, adonski said:

    2 years with no senior footy for Howes, bit of a shame, looks a classy player and a bit of a point of difference

    I feel really sorry for Blake Howes - looked close to a debut last year, then injured, and again this year.  What is his contract status?

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      On 25/07/2023 at 09:23, whatwhat say what said:

    Social post says wrist, image says hand

    Our comms are so amateur 

    Surprised that the injury was said to be an existing one from some time ago because he appeared to injure the wrist late in the game vs Sandringham in the week before the bye.

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      On 25/07/2023 at 09:23, whatwhat say what said:

    Social post says wrist, image says hand

    Our comms are so amateur 

    Wrist / Hand, there's a lot of small bones in the junction between them, I suspect it's something in there.

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      On 25/07/2023 at 11:29, monoccular said:

    I feel really sorry for Blake Howes - looked close to a debut last year, then injured, and again this year.  What is his contract status?

    Contracted til the end of '25

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      On 25/07/2023 at 09:23, whatwhat say what said:

    Social post says wrist, image says hand

    Our comms are so amateur 

    It's actually more complicated than it seems. 

    The injury is a fracture of the scaphoid bone. The scaphoid is one of eight small bones called 'carpal bones' in the hand. There is actually variation in how the anatomical "wrist" is defined; the wrist could be considered part of the hand (i.e. the carpal bones) or the junction of the hand (including the carpal bones) and the bones of the forearm (radius and ulna).  So, in Howes' case, both hand and wrist are correct. 

    As an aside, the scaphoid bone is somewhat of a design flaw, as the scaphoid receives it's blood supply from distal (further away) to proximal (closer). This creates issues with healing leading to complications such as non-union and avascular necrosis. I suspect Howes has unfortunately developed such complications given the club doctor's comments that the fracture "had probably been there for some time". Scaphoid fractures can be difficult to identify initially on routine imaging and thus a delayed diagnosis of a scaphoid fracture (when complications are present) is not uncommon.

    The issue for the club's comms is that, in translating from precise medical language to language the average punter understands, accuracy can be lost and ambiguity introduced. Without an understanding of the specific diagnosis, we should be cautious about making inferences from generic descriptions (e.g. "hamstring" 😬). 

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      On 25/07/2023 at 12:25, speed demon said:

    It's actually more complicated than it seems. 

    The injury is a fracture of the scaphoid bone. The scaphoid is one of eight small bones called 'carpal bones' in the hand. There is actually variation in how the anatomical "wrist" is defined; the wrist could be considered part of the hand (i.e. the carpal bones) or the junction of the hand (including the carpal bones) and the bones of the forearm (radius and ulna).  So, in Howes' case, both hand and wrist are correct. 

    As an aside, the scaphoid bone is somewhat of a design flaw, as the scaphoid receives it's blood supply from distal (further away) to proximal (closer). This creates issues with healing leading to complications such as non-union and avascular necrosis. I suspect Howes has unfortunately developed such complications given the club doctor's comments that the fracture "had probably been there for some time". Scaphoid fractures can be difficult to identify initially on routine imaging and thus a delayed diagnosis of a scaphoid fracture (when complications are present) is not uncommon.

    The issue for the club's comms is that, in translating from precise medical language to language the average punter understands, accuracy can be lost and ambiguity introduced. Without an understanding of the specific diagnosis, we should be cautious about making inferences from generic descriptions (e.g. "hamstring" 😬). 

    Such a weird coincidence.

    Was just about to post almost exactly the same explanation.

    :pj:

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    Glad we have the pre finals bye. Fritsch should be able to get some sort of hit out in before finals in 7 weeks

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      On 25/07/2023 at 23:37, DubDee said:

    Glad we have the pre finals bye. Fritsch should be able to get some sort of hit out in before finals in 7 weeks

    It's a huge worry though. Missing two-three months of footy and resuming in a major final...

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      On 25/07/2023 at 23:45, dee-tox said:

    It's a huge worry though. Missing two-three months of footy and resuming in a major final...

    indeed

    But Bailey is a such a natural footballer I reckon we risk it.

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