Why is the sky falling in when we don't even know the results of the scan yet?

1 hour ago, ManDee said:

I disagree Beeb, I think every game is a learning event. 

We observer's from the outside are not privy to internal machinations. Players are asked to perform roles that do not allow them to do the things that we think spectacular, but they are doing the team thing. I think Rivers, Brayshaw and Langdon can do other roles and surprise us with their capabilities. Joel Smith could even surprise.

I look for a silver lining, dee-luded  maybe, but I want another flag and this could help. (That's what I'm telling myself)

A very good point. One of the things lost since pre-season is how the club have been planning for this season. As a result of the post-season review last year each player has been prepped to play an additional or secondary role this season in the event of an injury or form loss. I remember Richardson detailing this in a communication or briefing. I will be interested to see the club contingency plan for Oliver's role

This year has been a shocker with injuries from the get go and at least one occurring each week.

14 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Of course we can win without him. But to say that he isn’t an enormous loss is frankly admitting that you don’t watch Melbourne play. 
If tomorrow was the grand final and Oliver was out, would you feel confident of winning? 
 

A BIG FAT NO!

Club must kniw the results by now, I find it disconcerting with no information to press or supporters

I think Oliver out is dreadful. We will have to put Brayshaw in the middle where he has in the past played some really good footy and also Rivers. Keep Pickett in the forward line. The only possible benefit we may see is a turn down of the silly centre bounce handballs which see the opposition usually get the clearance. Oliver often turns it over with handballs at centre clearances.

Fritta also had a scan today according to reporters at the Grundy interview. Perhaps just ongoing management/assessment as we know he's been carrying something for the entire season. Was on light duties at training which is probably the norm for him at the moment.

1 hour ago, layzie said:

There's every chance the absence of Oliver could make us more unpredictable through the middle and gives us some good results with a different mix that there isn't much film on. Obviously these things are usually short term sugar hits but if it's only a few games we need to do this for that it may work out well for us.

I agree with this. Our midfield is clearly elite but we have been inexplicably losing clearances. Clarry is a massive out (if out) every day of the week, and he'll be missed. But we are not, and cannot be, one player. We have depth and can move pieces around. This circumstance could breed opportunity and jolt us into doing something different/unpredictable. Could be some things we learn to help us evolve this year. And we need to evolve to keep up with other contenders. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dangerfield also missed 6 games last year and yet they only lost 4 games for the year.

It can still go the opposite way.

I still think we can beat Freo and Carlton. Collingwood are just a different beast unfortunately. If we can go into the bye over the next 3 weeks without Oliver at 2-1 then I'll happily take that.

Agree with this, especially given our recent record against them, but not gonna lie, if we can't beat Freo in Melbourne, I'll be pretty bummed with that given it's at home. 

3 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Agree with this, especially given our recent record against them, but not gonna lie, if we can't beat Freo in Melbourne, I'll be pretty bummed with that given it's at home. 

It won't be easy with Oliver out and our ramshackle forward line. Hopefully our smalls dominate.

This seasons giving me the s4its at times.

About now is one of them.😄

We'll be going so well without him that Clayton will have to come back via Casey.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dangerfield also missed 6 games last year and yet they only lost 4 games for the year.

It can still go the opposite way.

I still think we can beat Freo and Carlton. Collingwood are just a different beast unfortunately. If we can go into the bye over the next 3 weeks without Oliver at 2-1 then I'll happily take that.

All those losses happened in the first 9 rounds, when they were 5 and 4. So they lost all their games without him. But then won 13 in a row, with a soft home-slanted draw (especially for a preliminary finalist) in the second half of the season.

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by A F

What is going on 😅

3 minutes ago, RedFox said:

What is going on 😅

What? How can there be damage and recovery all within 48 hours? What sort of wizard is Oliver?

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by Jaded No More

Yep, that does not make sense. I think we should wait for the injury update video.

I find it astounding that he would be doing any running at all at this stage if it was even a minor strain which is a regulation 2/3 weeks!

As Dr Hackenbusch explains "It still could be cramp, and if so any musculature out of alignment would show up as damage".signed

Dr Hackenbusch 

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by picket fence

He's after that Brownlow is Clarry.

15 minutes ago, RedFox said:

What is going on 😅

Good work Sammy!  Most hamstring injuries don't require surgery and lifting weights with your arms is not going to damage those hammies! 

Out for up to 4 weeks but recovering well.

Great Journalism!

I was walking down Punt Road at night recently and tripped on a scooter that was lying on the footpath. (It was dark.)  The upshot was that I 'did' my hammy in that episode .... It took me 3 weeks to fully recover. So Clarry should aspire to that timeframe for full recovery. Perhaps the Club would be interested in this information?

5 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

I was walking down Punt Road at night recently and tripped on a scooter that was lying on the footpath. (It was dark.)  The upshot was that I 'did' my hammy in that episode .... It took me 3 weeks to fully recover. So Clarry should aspire to that timeframe for full recovery. Perhaps the Club would be interested in this information?

Okay but did you train on the Monday after the incident?

So is the Sam Edmund tweet confirmation that no one actually knows what is wrong with Oliver because we're going on nothing other that tweets from journalists?

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

So is the Sam Edmund tweet confirmation that no one actually knows what is wrong with Oliver because we're going on nothing other that tweets from journalists?

The club won't have released anything to the journos who are speculating there's damage to the hammy. We wait with baited breath for something official from the club

Edited May 22, 20231 yr by RedFox

37 minutes ago, RedFox said:

What is going on 😅

What is going on is that a journalist is trying to stay on top of a news story despite an absence of intelligent information.

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

So is the Sam Edmund tweet confirmation that no one actually knows what is wrong with Oliver because we're going on nothing other that tweets from journalists?

This.

Just throwing darts like Johnny Ralph blindfolded !

All the clock bait journos and sports sites ran with the up to 4 weeks headline for clicks even before the scans came back. Now they are hedging. I'll wait to hear from the club