2 hours ago, CYB said:

What if we deal with Bowes mgr and say we strike up a new deal we could flatten out a portion of the next 2 years? His tax obligation would be reduced as a bonus so he’ll keep more money? 

Not an accountant, but wouldn't he be on max tax rate regardless?

You wonder what sort of wage this guy has been on??

$100 a month!!

$850,000 for the next 2 Years!! 
what rubbish accountancy are they running up there??

That is a disgrace 

Tony (Loud Mouth) Cochrane 

We cannot even look at this deal, how the hell Jeelong can is mind blowing 

Pick 7 and Bowes for a salary dump is a furphy.  Gold Cost will want a good pick back, most probably a future first and depending where it lies give a pick back. 

Effectively they are sliding down the first round draft order not simply giving up pick 7.

eg from contenders Geelong and Brisbane it might be there future first (high teens), from Ess or Saints it might be their future first and GCS give a 2022 pick back.  After all they have plenty of them this year:  7, 25, 31, 34, 43, 52, 67, 70, 79 and they will get pick 5 +/- swaps for Rankine.  I reckon they will swap a few the 2022 picks for 2023 picks and won;t use the last three.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

On 9/27/2022 at 9:46 AM, JimmyGadson said:

It's a lot, for sure. And maybe too much. Although it's for one year at that figure. 

Aside from the players I mentioned, you'd like to know how much we'll have to play with given the money we would have had for Jackson if he stayed. Plus Gawn, Lever and May would all be on significantly less given their age and contract status. But maybe that's been balanced out by us signing on Trac, Oliver and Gus on long deals for significant money. 

Zero idea. 

Just want pick 7.

 

Lever is 26. What are you talking about, Steve? He's likely to still be on a significant contract.

And yes, I wouldn't be taking on 850k just to get pick 7. 

It's incredible some still value draft picks so highly, particularly bang smack in the middle of our premiership window.

If it was a top 3 pick, maybe that's a different story, but 850k is far too much to take on for pick 7 and likely our 2023 future first.

I'd much prefer we put that 850k to a plug and play star we may want to target this year or next year.

Edit. I see you've seen the light lol.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by A F

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Pick 7 and Bowes for a salary dump is a furphy.  Gold Cost will want a good pick back, most probably a future first and depending where it lies give a pick back. 

Effectively they are sliding down the first round draft order not simply giving up pick 7.

eg from contenders Geelong and Brisbane it might be there future first (high teens), from Ess or Saints it might be their future first and GCS give a 2022 pick back.  After all they have plenty of them this year:  7, 25, 31, 34, 43, 52, 67, 70, 79 and they will get pick 5 +/- swaps for Rankine.  I reckon they will swap a few the 2022 picks for 2023 picks and won;t use the last three.

Not sure that is right about a high pick back. 

While he is an ok player, his salary is that of a star. Pick 7 is what makes it attractive, so any pick back would be inconsequential.

11 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You wonder what sort of wage this guy has been on??

$100 a month!!

$850,000 for the next 2 Years!! 
what rubbish accountancy are they running up there??

That is a disgrace 

Tony (Loud Mouth) Cochrane 

We cannot even look at this deal, how the hell Jeelong can is mind blowing 

No-one is talking about the mis-management side of things enough. This is another blunder in the long list of Gold Coast nit-witsey.

As mentioned previously, this kid is a Gold Coast native out of their academy, they should be building their side around guys like him and he should be a in the conversation for future captain there but everyone is blinded to GC's stinky list management. 

Well done GC, from bean to cup you **** it up.

4 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Pick 7 and Bowes for a salary dump is a furphy.  Gold Cost will want a good pick back, most probably a future first and depending where it lies give a pick back. 

Effectively they are sliding down the first round draft order not simply giving up pick 7.

eg from contenders Geelong and Brisbane it might be there future first (high teens), from Ess or Saints it might be their future first and GCS give a 2022 pick back.  After all they have plenty of them this year:  7, 25, 31, 34, 43, 52, 67, 70, 79 and they will get pick 5 +/- swaps for Rankine.  I reckon they will swap a few the 2022 picks for 2023 picks and won;t use the last three.

i think the deal ends up being something like tom berry and a couple of future picks for bowes, 7 and a stack of the suns 2022 draft picks, points for all (suns have a couple of academy boys highly ranked for next year including a big forward jed walter)

11 minutes ago, Turner said:

i think the deal ends up being something like tom berry and a couple of future picks for bowes, 7 and a stack of the suns 2022 draft picks, points for all (suns have a couple of academy boys highly ranked for next year including a big forward jed walter)

Yes, now that Berry wants to go to GCS and Brisbane need points and GCS get future picks that is a likely scenario. 

5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Yes, now that Berry wants to go to GCS and Brisbane need points and GCS get future picks that is a likely scenario. 

and 7 is dunkley

 

Is this the GCS that was screaming for priority picks.

Time to close that club down

It’s just outrageous than a guy who’s overpaid by 400k per season needs pick 7 to dump him. Even if it’s a future first back (which seems unlikely). Should be pick 35 at most to dump him.

Gold Coast allegedly are trying to stop making the same mistakes but it sounds like they’re keen to make more.

Meanwhile Geelong have a never ending salary cap. 

 

GC list manager should hang his head in shame.

How can the Cats afford to accomodate such a high salary AND bring in more talented youngsters in Bruhn and Henry when they just won the flag? The entire point of the draft and salary caps is equalisation, yet it seems it's creating an environment that's anything but equal. How are the struggling clubs like North and GC ever meant to become competitive when their top young kids are walking out the door or they can't afford to keep them without paying absurd amounts?

The competition is in a terrible spot at the moment!

so you can now buy pick 7 for $1.6M

well done afl and equalisation

5 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

How can the Cats afford to accomodate such a high salary AND bring in more talented youngsters in Bruhn and Henry when they just won the flag? The entire point of the draft and salary caps is equalisation, yet it seems it's creating an environment that's anything but equal. How are the struggling clubs like North and GC ever meant to become competitive when their top young kids are walking out the door or they can't afford to keep them without paying absurd amounts?

The competition is in a terrible spot at the moment!

So let's bring in a nineteenth team to prop up for years!

8 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

How can the Cats afford to accomodate such a high salary AND bring in more talented youngsters in Bruhn and Henry when they just won the flag? The entire point of the draft and salary caps is equalisation, yet it seems it's creating an environment that's anything but equal. How are the struggling clubs like North and GC ever meant to become competitive when their top young kids are walking out the door or they can't afford to keep them without paying absurd amounts?

The competition is in a terrible spot at the moment!

Could not have said it better myself! It's a joke.

27 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

GC list manager should hang his head in shame.

You mean our ex List Manager.

14 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

So let's bring in a nineteenth team to prop up for years!

Which team do you suggest, the Romsey Winecasks?

Shocking at AFL gives suns too many picks

Suns give up a great pick in Scott brothers approved salary dump

Great pick goes to Geelong with Scott and SHocking!

Perfect 

Just now, Redleg said:

Which team do you suggest, the Romsey Winecasks?

Sadly no Red.

As I've been unable to garner support for our new training facility etc to be located at Romsey, I doubt that would work.

1 minute ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Sadly no Red.

As I've been unable to garner support for our new training facility etc to be located at Romsey, I doubt that would work.

Sounds like you have been using the same people as the MFC Bbo!

The NBA occasionally steps in and vetoes lopsided trades like this one. Wish the AFL could do that. 

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Sadly no Red.

As I've been unable to garner support for our new training facility etc to be located at Romsey, I doubt that would work.

You mean the Romsey Recreational Reserve is unavailable.

Then what about the Macedon Maulers? Surely you could use Hanging Rock for the training base.