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8 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I had a pic taken with that commodity tonight and I told him I was sad and he said “why’s that?” and then I remembered I was a little drunk and just said “never mind.” 😁 I got pics with many of the commodities and in all of those it’s smiles all round but in the Jayden pic, nary a smile to be seen. 🙁

Oh that’s so sad wcw, I hope you gave him a little cuddle 

 
7 hours ago, Beetle said:

It’s about freeing up cap space and at the start of the year, he was unfortunately one of the players in the group that were potentially going to be let go. 

Interesting. I have heard it rumoured we're looking at the draft more the next two years, partly to accommodate contracts, but wouldn't have thought Hunt's next deal would be any type of amount that would have much of an impact overall.

8 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I had a pic taken with that commodity tonight and I told him I was sad and he said “why’s that?” and then I remembered I was a little drunk and just said “never mind.” 😁 I got pics with many of the commodities and in all of those it’s smiles all round but in the Jayden pic, nary a smile to be seen. 🙁

You're far too wholesome for this place WCW.

 
33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

But he ain't quick. (Spargo)

His brain is and that’s worth more than pace and a rare commodity.  

I think Jayden has left NOT because of money and contract length but because Goody and the footy department have said he wont play much senior footy next year. WCE on the other hand have offered him a regular AFL spot. It’s probably combined with more money and a longer contract but Jayden will want to play senior footy. 
 

In summary it’s all three things but the primary reason is he wants to play AFL footy. 

54 minutes ago, forever demons said:

All of them

If you are serious, your footy I Q is seriously lacking. Who would he replace in any of the top 8 teams?


We can only speculate on ‘why’ but he had done great moments playing for us. I’m just going to remember him blasting out of defence with Langers using the old give and get. I’ll also always remember that 70 meter torp for a goal against Adelaide.

 Hee always seemed like a pretty relaxed, good guy. I wish him so the best at WC with the usual caveat - not against us

42 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Players like Spargo need to stop flapping their arms, and get to the fall of the ball. Plus kicking to a stationary target can be easily intercepted. Kicking to a leading target is the higher percentage play.

I've watched the 2021 GF probably 50 times, and the most inexcusable bit of play was at the start of the last qtr. Sparrow rightfully ignored Spargo's lead into the pocket, and kicked it to BBB at the top of the square. Spargo had a dummy spit instead of running to the fall of the ball, should BBB have dropped the mark.

Spargo gets way to many credits for his 1 or 2 30 metre passes a game.

 

I suppose if we had better players for his position than Spargo, they would be playing instead of him.

19 minutes ago, picket fence said:

If you are serious, your footy I Q is seriously lacking. Who would he replace in any of the top 8 teams?

My footy IQ is fine and based on 65yrs of supporting MFC.And Spargo happens to play in a top8 side and played in a winning GF team last  year.

 

All the best to Jayden. I think the club see him as a depth player going forward, and would think there is more upside in the likes of Bowey, Rivers, D.Smith and possibly even Joel Smith in that role. Hence the lower offer.

To be honest I couldn’t care less & even a pick in the 50s would probably land us someone better than him. Never rated him & clubs only get better by moving on the bottom tier blokes each year. I see him purely as depth but think we have enough to cover him , as there are 100s of players of his calibre. Yep he’s quick, but who cares when you only touch the ball 1 times a game & then burn 30% of them or get caught holding it. The supposed strength of his is speed, yet for the life of me I can’t understand how if that’s his strength then he can only get the call 10 times a game. This says he has no footy IQ, can’t read the play or the ball, which is useless.

Yep people will bag me & defend him, but you don’t have a leg to stand on as clearly  the club didn’t rate him & or want him & I’ll back our FD over anyone on here.

 


12 hours ago, CYB said:

I’m not my happy about this move at all. Yes he’s not in our best, but he had what most players didn’t and that was raw pace. 

What he had was the ability to find very little of the ball & then burn the very few pozzies he got.

About time the club got ruthless, we failed miserably this year & the only way you get better is by moving dead wood.

10 hours ago, A F said:

You have a truly bizarre taste in footballers. You like a guy that gets it 10 times and can run quickly, but you don't like a guy that gets in 10 times and is an elite kick.

I reckon about the only one you've got right, PF, is Clarry, and Blind Freddy would have got that one.

Agreed. All everyone mentions is speed. I couldn’t care if he was Aussie Bolt, he has 0 ability outside of his speed. His amazing speed only  gets him to a pathetic 10 stats a game which he burns. How can you be quick but not win more possessions  or get to more contests? It means he either tums to the wrong spots or then isn’t good enough to win the ball. Clear the list, free up some money & pick any one of 100 blokes in the draft.

55 minutes ago, forever demons said:

My footy IQ is fine and based on 65yrs of supporting MFC.And Spargo happens to play in a top8 side and played in a winning GF team last  year.

So answer the question then, who would he replace and get a game with? He was Carried this year, avg 12 possesions, thats right 12 per game and rarely hits the scoreboard as a forward usually should. 

Sensible decision on where he sits on our list and has own long term security.  Like the guy and his run, but his decision making and skills at times let him down.  WC want speed as they are sorely lacking it with their current group.  

Good luck to him except when he pays us. 

 

 

I really enjoyed watching Jayden play and there was always a spark of excitement when he took off on a run or teamed with Lingers with linking handballs up the wing.  I'll miss him in red and blue and wish him all the best in the west.

But I think it's the right decision by the club. I think the club has decided that Jayden is not the lock-down defender we need and are going forward with Hibbo and Joel Smith sharing the role over the next two years, with Joel Smith re-contracted with an increased offer over that period to ward off Sydney.  Hibbo and Joel will both be cheaper and shorter than Jayden's offer at West Coast.

We need to free list spots and salary cap over the next two years and we have a set of fringe players that we don't want to contract beyond that period. Those looking for value in the compensation pick - likely to be 3rd round 51 - will be disappointed but that's not the goal.


2 hours ago, A F said:

Without wanting to stoop to this level, I will. Spargo is an assist king. It would be better if he also improved his goal kicking return, but it's not a fair comparison on the goals front, because what defensive pressure, gut running and safety of ball use is Spargo bringing that Hunt didn't in the same position?

Thats about it.  He can be a front and centre player , as in the Round 23 2021 game at the cattery, but thats not his value. That's Kozzie and ANB's job mainly.

He needs to do more for sure but something good usually happens WHEN he gets the ball.

But I love jayden Hunt and he brings great competitivenss to the club, and is good overhead which many don't acknowledge.  But sadly Bowey and others are the future. I hope he makes mega bucks at the eagles and has a good backend to his career. I'll never boo him either.

5 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Ridiculous historical negationism going on here over Jayden's career!  

Hunting Jayden | AFL Players' Association

What is 'historical negationism' about it.

It was written six years ago!!  In 2016, the year he made his debut and played 19 of 22 games.

53 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So answer the question then, who would he replace and get a game with? He was Carried this year, avg 12 possesions, thats right 12 per game and rarely hits the scoreboard as a forward usually should. 

Serious question Picket, I can't get to a lot of games live. So what do you make of comments along the line of, He's often in good position but gets ignored ?

1 hour ago, SA Red n Blue said:

 I’ll back our FD over anyone on here.

 

Even me?


I like him and I’m sorry to see him go if that pans out. I loved the hair/headband/sleeves combo he had going with Langdon. I was going to suggest that’s the end of BT, Derwayne and co mixing them up, but I’m willing to bet some overpaid nuffie in the commentary box still calls Lingers “Hunt” at least once in 2023. I was really hoping he’d get the chance for the 2022 flag to atone for his disappointment in 2021.

As others have said though, I think the decision makes sense for both parties. All the best Jayden.

10 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I had a pic taken with that commodity tonight and I told him I was sad and he said “why’s that?” and then I remembered I was a little drunk and just said “never mind.” 😁 I got pics with many of the commodities and in all of those it’s smiles all round but in the Jayden pic, nary a smile to be seen. 🙁

You should have burst in to tears and said it was because you’d heard he was going and see how he reacted. Probably would have been pretty awkward and embarrassing for both you and Jayden, but it would have been pretty entertaining for anyone witnessing it. 😁

Too soon?

3 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Really?

Give me Spargo's fast brain and elite inside 50 delivery anyday.

And tackling ability. His tackles stick

 
1 hour ago, SA Red n Blue said:

What he had was the ability to find very little of the ball & then burn the very few pozzies he got.

Your evaluation of Hunt is way off the mark which is evidenced by the fact WCE have offered him a three year deal and apparently 3 other clubs asked about him.  If he was as poor as you suggest he'd attract no interest, but in fact the opposite is true.

Jayden is a competent AFL footballer but is worth more to others than us.  Why you have to denigrate someone who has played over 100 games for us and given his all is beyond me and says more about you than perhaps you want us to see. 

 

2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Your evaluation of Hunt is way off the mark which is evidenced by the fact WCE have offered him a three year deal and apparently 3 other clubs asked about him.  If he was as poor as you suggest he'd attract no interest, but in fact the opposite is true.

Jayden is a competent AFL footballer but is worth more to others than us.  Why you have to denigrate someone who has played over 100 games for us and given his all is beyond me and says more about you than perhaps you want us to see. 

 

I don’t care what you or others see, I’m not afraid what others are of saying. I say it as it is & don’t care if a player plays for us as I’m not sentimental on players. I don’t have favourite plays or care who comes & goes, it’s about winning. The whole attitude of loving an average player is the reason we were the worst sporting club in the country for over half a century, but that should be over now. I’m not denying he played AFL or 100 games, but majority of those were while we were pathetic to be honest. I also acknowledge that another club took him, but be realistic that club list is one of the worst seen in the modern area so it’s not saying much. I mean I didn’t hear Geelong, Swans, Pies chasing him, just junk clubs that are desperate. We clearly didn’t want him so I’m on the winning side of this conversation because he ain’t a Dees player anymore, which I’m happy with.


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