At the break of Gawn 4,515 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 I’m not surprised at all, but if we win, then surely Tmac comes in for Melksham the week after. Quote
Ben 222 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, faultydet said: Staggering that so many on here can't see what's directly in front of them. We are not a premiership side this year. It feels a bit like that for me as well. The cliches of needing luck and the health of the list being so important to win a flag come to mind. We had such a dream run injury-wise last year and it hasn’t quite been the same in 2022. That being said, we’re still in it and if we can find a way past Brisbane, then it’ll be two out of our skins performances needed to go back to back. Edited September 8, 2022 by Ben 5 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nasher said: Just putting this out there dazz, if we smash Brisbane and you do a I wAs WrOnG sOrRy post, I’ll being using the barf emoji for the first time ever. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about when I pulled you up the other week. Absolutely not because I expect us to beat Brisbane comfortably because they're simply not that good. I have no where mentioned that I expect a loss. I'm talking about team selection not wins and losses. Have another go 'Nasher'.. Edited September 8, 2022 by dazzledavey36 3 1 1 Quote
faultydet 7,623 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nasher said: Just putting this out there dazz, if we smash Brisbane and you do a I wAs WrOnG sOrRy post, I’ll being using the barf emoji for the first time ever. This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about when I pulled you up the other week. Even if we smash Brisbane this week, nobody in their right mind would be claiming they were wrong to doubt us. We have been embarrassed so often by top 4 teams this year. I reckon you would search long and far for a team that wins a flag after being towelled in every high-pressure game they played in that year. We are not winning the flag in 2022. We can reload for 2023, but prepare yourself for a letdown if you think dazzle is off the mark this year. 3 1 Quote
Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 A half-baked McDonald on a wet MCG in a final would be an absolute selection blunder. How can we still be arguing about this. His turning circle would be akin to the titanic, he would struggle to clunk marks and fumble below his knees. Just move on. We missed the opportunity to debut JVR, so we sticks we got 9 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said: Coaching and game plan are boring as hell and so is Simon. How on earth we go into tomorrow's games with half our list banged up and so many ordinary performances last week with unchanged line up is utter bizarre. I'll get more enjoyment watching Casey on Saturday then I will tomorrow. I will reserve that judgement until after the game tomorrow. 1 hour ago, Optimus D said: I anybody mildly concerned about Petracca playing with a fractured in his leg. I know its if, buts and maybes, but I'm tipping Brisbane with target him and and test that leg out consistently throughout the night. Its not that hard to turn a hairline in a major break that could ruin his ability to play next year. Also why would the club advertise the fact he has a fracture, would have thought talking about the calf instead would have been more sensible. Maybe they will put a brace or bandage on his good leg ? 34 minutes ago, adonski said: We haven't been able to run out a tight game since the first half of the year Didn’t you realise that loading has targeted week 2 of finals to be at our peak 🙄 Quote
picket fence 18,189 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Optimus D said: Would you still take the risk and play him? NO! Definately not. If he gets another hit in the same spot he is CACTUS Edited September 8, 2022 by picket fence Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, adonski said: We haven't been able to run out a tight game since the first half of the year I know what has happened. I just can't understand the lack of faith in the senior coach 3 Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 Just now, DubDee said: I know what has happened. I just can't understand the lack of faith in the senior coach How? We worked out at round 13 last year having one key forward wasn't sustainable, yet here we are 3 Quote
picket fence 18,189 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, DubDee said: I know what has happened. I just can't understand the lack of faith in the senior coach Fugazzi ans spin only get you so far Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, faultydet said: Even if we smash Brisbane this week, nobody in their right mind would be claiming they were wrong to doubt us. We have been embarrassed so often by top 4 teams this year. I reckon you would search long and far for a team that wins a flag after being towelled in every high-pressure game they played in that year. We are not winning the flag in 2022. We can reload for 2023, but prepare yourself for a letdown if you think dazzle is off the mark this year. Exactly right. Teams like Brisbane don't worry me one bit. Haven't rated them one bit this year. It's those genuine top 4 sides that have shown us up and exposed our game plan that'll get us. A battered and bruised Melbourne outfit coming up against a fully fit and fresh Geelong. Good luck. 1 1 Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said: I’m not surprised at all, but if we win, then surely Tmac comes in for Melksham the week after. Doubt it. If we win I reckon the plan will be for Melksham to go to Tom Stewart 1 Quote
picket fence 18,189 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 We have got 5 sore, banged up players.If we win it will be akin to that bloke who apparently walked on water 2 thousand or so years ago! MARK my words! 5 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, picket fence said: Fugazzi ans spin only get you so far I agree. Let the results speak. A flag and a second place. A bit of faith is well deserved 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) I actually thought there would be more benefit in Tmac playing against Brisvegas, a more competitive hitout against high quality opposition. In listening to Goody he is convinced that if we win through Tmac will be selected if all is well on Friday night. Reasons for holding him back we will never know but bet your bottom dollar Feral scouts will be out in force watching his every step for Casey. This might have been the plan all along get to the Prelim and unleash T-shirt Tommy. Edited September 8, 2022 by YesitwasaWin4theAges 1 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, adonski said: How? We worked out at round 13 last year having one key forward wasn't sustainable, yet here we are How can I not understand the lack of respect and faith in our coach? Mainly because we have been in the top 4 every round for the past 2 years unlike any other team. i.e. he has been the most successful coach over the past 2 years. regarding team selection of key forwards, he has tried many options of Weid, Brown, M Brown, T Mac. Between injuries and lack of talent there is not much we can do. We could try a first year kid but I am sure we have our reasons for not throwing him in. You guys act like we have one of the King brothers playing at Casey! Edited September 8, 2022 by DubDee 4 1 Quote
Demonstone 23,590 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Redlagged said: .I am reminded of the name of a late 1960s supergroup: Blind Faith. The difference, of course, is that "Ginger" Baker did get a gig with Blind Faith. Quote
1964_2 2,357 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, faultydet said: Even if we smash Brisbane this week, nobody in their right mind would be claiming they were wrong to doubt us. We have been embarrassed so often by top 4 teams this year. I reckon you would search long and far for a team that wins a flag after being towelled in every high-pressure game they played in that year. We are not winning the flag in 2022. We can reload for 2023, but prepare yourself for a letdown if you think dazzle is off the mark this year. Agree with this. And surely the FD can see it as well. Which makes it incredible why you wouldn’t change a few things up, even if it’s just in preparation for a potential game against Geelong. 1 1 Quote
1964_2 2,357 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, DubDee said: How can I not understand the lack of respect and faith in our coach? Mainly because we have been in the top 4 every round for the past 2 years unlike any other team. i.e. he has been the most successful coach over the past 2 years. regarding team selection of key forwards, he has tried many options of Weid, Brown, M Brown, T Mac. Between injuries and lack of talent there is not much we can do. We could try a first year kid but I am sure we have our reasons for not throwing him in. You guys act like we have one of the King brothers playing at Casey! You have to evolve, and continuously strive for improvement. Just as the other now dominant teams in Geelong, Collingwood and Sydney have done. Drinking our own bath water from the 2021 flag, and 10-0 start to 2022 won’t win us our next flag. 2 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, 1964_2 said: You have to evolve, and continuously strive for improvement. Just as the other now dominant teams in Geelong, Collingwood and Sydney have done. Drinking our own bath water from the 2021 flag, and 10-0 start to 2022 won’t win us our next flag. You mean Geelong that have been top four 9 out of 10 years with only 1 losing GF to show for it. You assume we are not striving to evolve? hopefully we don't take 10 years like the Cats did to change things up. I am not saying we don't have issues or that Goody doesn't have his weaknesses, I just don't get the negativity without acknowledging the positives. Success does not come easy, there would be issues behind the scenes we are not aware of. drinking our own bathwater? give me a spell! 7 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 The obvious observation is that the MC have gone with last years premiership team to back it up this season Hunt for Bowey and Melksham for T-Mac are the only 2 changes from last year's premiership line-up but if T-Mac was fit, he'd be in the team at the probable expense of Melksham. The team has the same line-up that played in the Collingwood game (save for Harmes in for Jordon) So that was our finals team back then (over a month ago) Selection all year has been conservative but it must be pointed out that we won 16 H&A games and finished 2nd with the above policy So if it doesn't ultimately work, we'll then see change but that won't happen until next season. If it does work, the team and the MC will be rightfully lauded As for the now, if we beat Brisbane another unchanged team will probably result (save for an injury or 2) I expect the team to beat the Lions and after a win, the mood changes and we'll believe that we can beat the Cats (we, as in all those involved at the club) 5 Quote
picket fence 18,189 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, DubDee said: How can I not understand the lack of respect and faith in our coach? Mainly because we have been in the top 4 every round for the past 2 years unlike any other team. i.e. he has been the most successful coach over the past 2 years. regarding team selection of key forwards, he has tried many options of Weid, Brown, M Brown, T Mac. Between injuries and lack of talent there is not much we can do. We could try a first year kid but I am sure we have our reasons for not throwing him in. You guys act like we have one of the King brothers playing at Casey! Ah, at least one of the Kings is a Dud that cant kick straight! Just sayin Quote
DemonWA 3,941 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 I think we'll smash the lions and book ourselves a prelim spot. After that anything is possible. Carn boys 8 1 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, picket fence said: Ah, at least one of the Kings is a Dud that cant kick straight! Just sayin I would kill to have that 'dud' in our fwd line! 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, faultydet said: Even if we smash Brisbane this week, nobody in their right mind would be claiming they were wrong to doubt us. We have been embarrassed so often by top 4 teams this year. I reckon you would search long and far for a team that wins a flag after being towelled in every high-pressure game they played in that year. We are not winning the flag in 2022. We can reload for 2023, but prepare yourself for a letdown if you think dazzle is off the mark this year. Embarrassed? Towelled? In our three H&A games against Sydney and Collingwood we led all of them at three quarter time. In the final against Sydney we led by two goals halfway into the third quarter of one of the best and most intense games of the year. In the Geelong game we weren't at our best but still closed to within a goal in the fourth. They were all in their own way frustrating/disappointing, as every loss is to an extent, but in no way were we embarrassed in any of them. 12 2 Quote
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