Clarko to Norf

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,778]

Clarko couldn't resist burning Essendon just for the hell of it before announcing he'd take the North job. Priceless. 

[Macca 17,113]

58 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah that 05 year maybe a little sketchy! 

At least with a guy like him you know where you stand. 

All-up, they tanked in 01', 04' & 05' ... and that's just Hawthorn

Edited August 19, 2022 by Macca

[daisycutter 29,892]

5 minutes ago, Macca said:

There's no maybe involved, they tanked in 01', 04' & 05' ... and that's just Hawthorn

shhhh.......don't let caro hear that......would ruin her set piece

[whatwhat say what 23,451]

ron joseph nailed it:

 

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

Sonya Hood deserves serious accolades.  Personally negotiated and steered the deal with Clarkson.  Whatever, promises she made to Clarkson she will keep.

CEO not part of the process but that is probably because he won't be part of the future.

They are doing what Ess haven't:  taken a cold, hard look at their total organisation and have a plan going forward.  Piece by piece she will build a strong organisation..

[adonski 12,919]

7 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

So Draper for Jackson? Sounds like a good replacement, we wouldn't miss Dogga as much as he certainly will miss the Dees

Josh Mahoney the sleeper agent?

[grazman 7,512]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

We certainly learned a lot this week didn't we?

One of the other things we learnt is that the rumour (nightmare) that Hird will replace Yze as an assistant coach might be over.

[Lucifers Hero 40,524]

The Age has listed coaches Ess should call. 

LOL, Goodwin is one listed. 

That will be a very short conversation:  Gee, guys.  Thanks but Ben is my mate.  And by the way, you have had 4 permanent senior coaches in the 8 years since I left.  Each one was unceremoniously flicked off..  Why on earth would I come back to that snake pit. Bye!

who-now-to-coach-bombers

Edited August 19, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[layzie 34,339]

18 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Sonya Hood deserves serious accolades.  Personally negotiated and steered the deal with Clarkson.  Whatever, promises she made to Clarkson she will keep.

CEO not part of the process but that is probably because he won't be part of the future.

They are doing what Ess haven't:  taken a cold, hard look at their total organisation and have a plan going forward.  Piece by piece she will build a strong organisation..

Brick by brick. They are coming from a long way back and they know it. Foundations will be put in place and they will finally have genuine hope to sell to their members. 

CEO surely changes.

[Maldonboy38 6,406]

8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Imagine if someone told you on that horrible afternoon in September 2000 that in 22 years Essendon would have no more flags, haven't won a final since 2004, club was destroyed with factional infighting due to a systemic doping program under coach James Hird, Bombers had just missed out on landing the best coach of the modern era since Sheedy to North and Melbourne were the reigning premiers!

Love this. At the end of a working week, with the Dees on TV, with it being the family traditional take away food night, with a good bottle of shiraz ready to set breathing at about 7.30pm, and now you post this sublime synopsis. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

It took us 10 years to recover from our "benefits of losing" campaign. It is taking Carlton 20+ years to recover from their tanking and cash-in-brown-paper-bags era. The Crows are in the middle of a horror stretch after THAT camp which could mean they have no success for a while yet. Some issues have very long lasting consequences for AFL clubs.

This is going to take the Bombers a LONG time to get over, and the reason is simple: hubris. They are so full of themselves from their board, to their past players coteries, to their cheer squad, to their trade and drafting personnel - the list is endless. They need an outside authoritative voice to come in and sweep it clean, but no way will they allow this. 

I love the fact that Clarkson has chosen North. It will rocky and turbulent at the Roos for the first 18 months, but their young list will respond well to him. I know he is not a particularly likeable personality (from all reports) but boy he gets the job done.

[Macca 17,113]

17 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Love this. At the end of a working week, with the Dees on TV, with it being the family traditional take away food night, with a good bottle of shiraz ready to set breathing at about 7.30pm, and now you post this sublime synopsis. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

It took us 10 years to recover from our "benefits of losing" campaign. It is taking Carlton 20+ years to recover from their tanking and cash-in-brown-paper-bags era. The Crows are in the middle of a horror stretch after THAT camp which could mean they have no success for a while yet. Some issues have very long lasting consequences for AFL clubs.

This is going to take the Bombers a LONG time to get over, and the reason is simple: hubris. They are so full of themselves from their board, to their past players coteries, to their cheer squad, to their trade and drafting personnel - the list is endless. They need an outside authoritative voice to come in and sweep it clean, but no way will they allow this. 

I love the fact that Clarkson has chosen North. It will rocky and turbulent at the Roos for the first 18 months, but their young list will respond well to him. I know he is not a particularly likeable personality (from all reports) but boy he gets the job done.

There will come a day when a club (with the funds available) will launch into free agency over a 2 year period

In theory up to 6 top-notch players can be brought in and with that talent, a club can rise quickly

It only seems like yesterday that North took advantage of the 10 year rule (a form of free agency) in 1972 and acquired 3 A Grade players (Wade, Rantall & Davis) 

As well as agressively stitching up interstate talent such as Blight, Cable, Glendinning and the like

Success followed soon after

A simple plan executed extremely well

The key these days is to not have a salary cap filled to the max with C & D graders.  Minimum wage for the floaters (not above award)

 

[layzie 34,339]

19 minutes ago, Macca said:

There will come a day when a club (with the funds available) will launch into free agency over a 2 year period

In theory up to 6 top-notch players can be brought in and with that talent, a club can rise quickly

It only seems like yesterday that North took advantage of the 10 year rule (a form of free agency) in 1972 and acquired 3 A Grade players (Wade, Rantall & Davis) 

As well as agressively stitching up interstate talent such as Blight, Cable, Glendinning and the like

Success followed soon after

A simple plan executed extremely well

The key these days is to not have a salary cap filled to the max with C & D graders.  Minimum wage for the floaters (not above award)

 

Have you ever seen Operation: Premiership Macca? Good doco on the 70s North story. 

[binman 44,533]

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

ron joseph nailed it:

 

Is that real?

If so that's some pretty straight shooting!

[layzie 34,339]

1 minute ago, binman said:

Is that real?

If so that's some pretty straight shooting!

These guys are a dying breed.

[Macca 17,113]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Have you ever seen Operation: Premiership Macca? Good doco on the 70s North story. 

No I haven't, layz ... youtube?

What might not be highlighted was where all the money was coming from to pay for all the A grade talent they acquired?

Bankrolled by a few apparently. I won't name names but Uncle Albert?

Their wage bill would have at least quadrupled overnight

[layzie 34,339]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

No I haven't, layz ... youtube?

What might not be highlighted was where all the money was coming from to pay for all the A grade talent they acquired?

Bankrolled by a few apparently. I won't name names but Uncle Albert?

Their wage bill would have at least quadrupled overnight

Sure is!

Can't remember how far they went into the finance side of things but it's seemed like a fair few loans and risks taken.

[Jaded No More 68,975]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Sonya Hood deserves serious accolades.  Personally negotiated and steered the deal with Clarkson.  Whatever, promises she made to Clarkson she will keep.

CEO not part of the process but that is probably because he won't be part of the future.

They are doing what Ess haven't:  taken a cold, hard look at their total organisation and have a plan going forward.  Piece by piece she will build a strong organisation..

Female presidents have long been kicking goals in the AFL. 

[DEE fence 5,045]

2 hours ago, Macca said:

All-up, they tanked in 01', 04' & 05' ... and that's just Hawthorn

Did you see what Donald McDonald had to say about his 5 games on the Front Bar (18/8) re tanking... 'there was a fair bit of tanking around then'...

[layzie 34,339]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The Age has listed coaches Ess should call. 

LOL, Goodwin is one listed. 

That will be a very short conversation:  Gee, guys.  Thanks but Ben is my mate.  And by the way, you have had 4 permanent senior coaches in the 8 years since I left.  Each one was unceremoniously flicked off..  Why on earth would I come back to that snake pit. Bye!

who-now-to-coach-bombers

Remember when St Kilda brought in Blight how before that Grant Thomas said he literally called every current coach in the comp and asked the hypothetical question and they said no? This reminds me of that haha.

Edited August 19, 2022 by layzie

[DubDee 26,306]

Garry and the fox gang getting stuck into Essendon. Garry sticking it to Sheedy numerous times for his interview on Wednesday. I could watch this all day

only thing that would be better from here, is if they decide to keep Rutten and he walks

[layzie 34,339]

3 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Garry and the fox gang getting stuck into Essendon. Garry sticking it to Sheedy numerous times for his interview on Wednesday. I could watch this all day

only thing that would be better from here, is if they decide to keep Rutten and he walks

Must catch that when I get the chance!

[Satan 2,915]

[Macca 17,113]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Sure is!

Can't remember how far they went into the finance side of things but it's seemed like a fair few loans and risks taken.

In that same year (1972) when they went on their recruiting spree we absolutely slaughtered them at Arden St

But get this, I'm catching the train to the ground as a youngster and get off the train a stop earlier than I should have ... a monster walk eventuated but I got to the ground at quarter time and thought nothing of it

Until I looked at the scoreboard to see the quarter time scores

North Melb 0.2 2

Melbourne 11.7.73

I don't normally carry regrets but I missed that first quarter and I'm still annoyed to this day! 

I'm sure there's a few here who were there from the start

[Sydee 4,633]

Age reporting that NM trying to allure Peter Jackson to lead their resurgence under Clarko

[whatwhat say what 23,451]

Just now, Sydee said:

Age reporting that NM trying to allure Peter Jackson to lead their resurgence under Clarko

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/north-approach-peter-jackson-to-steer-roos-into-the-clarko-era-20220822-p5bbrz.html