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1. We go to water under real sustained pressure and intense tackling  . 

2. We don’t apply enough pressure on the opposition

3. We don’t have a key forward 

There is no getting outta jail when teams allow us to win the contested ball then pressure us around the contest, sweating on our mistakes, then run and spread .

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    14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    No tall forward is as effective when they are double teamed. Ben has been getting TMacs opponents as well as his own. 

    Melksham did a good job keeping Patty McCartin out of the contest last night. 

    And Brown was struggling when TMac was in the side. 

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    Every week we allow the opposition to walk the ball to the wing with no pressure and they get a free ride into their 50. Also our goal kicking ain't flash either. Miss too many easy ones for the amount of times we get into 50. When we tackle well and kick straight we win most times. Poor at defensive pressure and goal kicking you end up on the losing side. 

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    3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

    Melksham did a good job keeping Patty McCartin out of the contest last night. 

    And Brown was struggling when TMac was in the side. 

    U are kidding!! Melksham was an absolute liability last night!

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    12 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    U are kidding!! Melksham was an absolute liability last night!

    Melksham’s skill errors were fatal for us but he did a good job keeping Patty McCartin out of the game. McCartin had  4 marks and 6 intercept possessions. 

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    Key forwards aren’t good, that’s clear as day, but it’s the lack of uncontested kick/mark game and spread that’s our biggest weakness.

    You can’t just play down one wing at a time. When the time comes to switch and open up the ground you have to use it. Even more so when you lack key forwards. 

    We need the backline fitter and encouraged to run and use the ball. And we need the midfield fitter, faster and more skilled.

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    2 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    Basic under 11 game plan. No dare. Too predictable.

    Won us a flag . Just sayin

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    2 minutes ago, BDA said:

    Won us a flag . Just sayin

    That was last year, which has zero relevance right now. Teams are making us look very basic in 2022. Our game plan has been dismantled, taken apart, and exploited. 

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    Need to put speed on the ball in transition. Collingwood showed that you can get the defence off their mark if you attack quickly. Goody must be a stubborn bastard to see that our biggest asset in 2021 is a large liability in 2022.

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    1 minute ago, KingDingAling said:

    That was last year, which has zero relevance right now. Teams are making us look very basic in 2022. Our game plan has been dismantled, taken apart, and exploited. 

    The game plan can't function as we're now a poor pressure team

    The lack of pressure we apply and/or fitness woes are an even greater issue than predictability 

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    2 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    Our game plan has been dismantled, taken apart, and exploited. 

    we finished second on the ladder with the toughest fixture of any team. Hardly dismantled and exploited.

    Our players aren't in top form and we need to find our intensity again

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    2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

    Melksham’s skill errors were fatal for us but he did a good job keeping Patty McCartin out of the game. McCartin had  4 marks and 6 intercept possessions. 

    Christ, Defensive efforts??? KEEPING A DEFENDER QUIET?? PARK ME... he is there to kick goals, he didn't and was Abysmal!

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    2 hours ago, picket fence said:

    Christ, Defensive efforts??? KEEPING A DEFENDER QUIET?? PARK ME... he is there to kick goals, he didn't and was Abysmal!

    His job is to be a defensive forward similar to what TMac was used for. TMac ran opposition defenders under the ball in marking contests to let Brown get an unimpeded run and jump. Sydney’s interceptors had a pretty quiet day.

    Goals are a bonus.

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    Just No, so if Spargo is a defensive forward and Meksham are defensive forwards

    WHO THE FURG IS THERE TO KICK GOALS???

    Nup flawed and shizzen thinking if so🤮

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    I note Longmuir wasn’t scared to play a second gamer in a sudden death final. Amiss did ok for them.

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    The idea that we need elite users is a complete furphy.

    If we bring the pressure around contest (in particular post clearance) and win ground balls, finesse is irrelevant. 

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    We haven't played take it on footy well for some time.

    The game has evolved into that frenetic game of, hit the player to open up the field in order to score especially after turnovers.

    Some players cannot do it, either there timing is out, the skills aren't good enough or they aren't in the right field position. They also don't baulk and shimmy so that they aren't easily read.

    It is something that needs development and to think we can turn it on we the require it is naive.

    We had to be trying different styles of play throughout the H & A, instead of a contested and safe game.

    You could see that we were told to take it on early yesterday and after a few failed attempts we went back into our kick to the contest down the line style.

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    4 hours ago, BDA said:

    Won us a flag . Just sayin

    That was last year, this year work has been put in on us.

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    50 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    Just No, so if Spargo is a defensive forward and Meksham are defensive forwards

    WHO THE FURG IS THERE TO KICK GOALS???

    Nup flawed and shizzen thinking if so🤮

    Trouble is Kozzie and Spargo are mainly defensive forwards, Kozzie should go no further that CHF, just look at Elliot from the pies given room to move around. 

     

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    The way I read it is;


    Our game plan has three parts;

    1. defensive structure that limits scoring (priority) and promotes rebound/turnover (2nd priority)

    2. Strength at stoppage (to drive forward)

    3. Contest and re-contest in the forward 50.

    we’re a bit (just a bit) off in 2 of 3;

    1. Opposition put most effort into this - keep May & Hibbo deep when possible and keep Lever accountable. Salem & Bowey off too.

     

    2. Feel this part of our game remains strong.

    3. TMac missing a decent problem - largely because he creates space/protection for BBB who either marks it or hits contests better to provide more quality ground ball for our smalls. Plus he is worth a few goals too.

     

    a few screws a little bit loose, but just a little bit.

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    I said this on the demons facebook page but last year we controlled the tempo, dont you remember the first game? we came out and we controlled when the ball was moving fast and when it was moving slow, opposition fear you when you have that, "is this it?, do i go now? whos got him covered?" at the moment its go go go, into the pocket to only tall in our Forward BBB who has 3 blokes on him BAM, and the teams know this and rebound hard. Couldn't be clearer in the collingwood game in which they sacrificed their forward position because they could rebound so easy.

    Last night we never took our foot off the gas, yes sydney were going hard but you have to weather the storm with our own pressure, slow and then go, there is a rhythm to it game. Spargo was one of the few who actually tried to control the game, when we have the ball we own the time and positioning, Trac is one of the best at this, but when hurt he can't do what he we know he can.

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    Would love to see the stats on 2nd half’s won this season… Against the top teams we seem to get run over every time. 

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