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On 5/22/2022 at 11:39 AM, DubDee said:

Nice to see Goody show respect to Noble, having a long chat post game instead of celebrating the win.

Sound as a pound is our Goody

He was Goody's assistant coach at Adelaide from 2005 onwards.

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The clear answer is no. Not one coach could be as bad as MN.

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I think the players actually like Noble. Neeld was pretty obviously disliked and no one seemed to play *for him*. North simply aren't up to it and don't have the cattle. 

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Neeldy should make a call to Noble and tell him to prep. 
 

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Noble hasn’t psychologically melted down in front of our eyes like Arnold Toht in Raiders of the Lost Ark ala Neeld.

But no one can survive this series of absolute hidings. 

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On 5/10/2022 at 2:17 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

They sold off all their players and are now finding out what that does 

it’s not Rocket Science 

10 years of pain 

I reckon this started the moment North limped into the finals around 5 years ago after winning their first 10 or so games, Scott had determined they needed to do something drastic to win the premiership, something no one had ever seen, and this culminated in the decision to advise their 3 best players, on the eve of finals, that they could play out the finals after which their services would no longer be required.

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1 minute ago, chookrat said:

I reckon this started the moment North limped into the finals around 5 years ago after winning their first 10 or so games, Scott had determined they needed to do something drastic to win the premiership, something no one had ever seen, and this culminated in the decision to advise their 3 best players, on the eve of finals, that they could play out the finals after which their services would no longer be required.

Probably right mate. Nobody took any notice of that winning streak. It was bizarre, but ultimately correct

2016 

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I think Noble is a good coach with an enormous amount of football knowledge. He’s very well respected in the industry (which is slightly different to Neeld who hadn’t work in as many diverse environments). He’s clearly trying to teach them how to do thinks the right way, and the players aren’t responding in any way.

He’ll be gone in the next few weeks, get a job as a head of football somewhere next year and wonder why it was all so hard.

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1 minute ago, chookrat said:

Also I don't think North are an worse than we were in the Neeld era as we had GWS and GCS to jag a win here and there while North had an early win against a covid ravaged West Coast.

I don’t think it matters. They smell like Fitzroy to me. No one will want to go there. They will slowly rot. 
They have one chance at Survival and that is Clarkson in as Coach. But he seems more interested in Tasmania. 
 

nobody will raise an eyebrow if Nought die. There should be only one team representing Melbourne, and that is us. The mighty Demons

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4 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I think Noble is a good coach with an enormous amount of football knowledge. He’s very well respected in the industry (which is slightly different to Neeld who hadn’t work in as many diverse environments). He’s clearly trying to teach them how to do thinks the right way, and the players aren’t responding in any way.

He’ll be gone in the next few weeks, get a job as a head of football somewhere next year and wonder why it was all so hard.

This North job won’t help his CV at all. Their % is below 50

No one playing for the list cares

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think it matters. They smell like Fitzroy to me. No one will want to go there. They will slowly rot. 
They have one chance at Survival and that is Clarkson in as Coach. But he seems more interested in Tasmania. 
 

nobody will raise an eyebrow if Nought die. There should be only one team representing Melbourne, and that is us. The mighty Demons

Agree SWYL, there is definitely a Fitzroy vibe about North and I would be surprised if they don't internally decide that a Tassie relocation is the best thing for the club. When it was out on the agenda about 10 years ago they were a good middle road team but if they do everything right from here it will take 4 - 5 years to become relevant again and that is if the AFL is prepared to bank roll the restructure that is uncertain to produce results for a club that probably isn't viable.

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I have been advised that the win/loss record currently stands at

Neeld 5 Wins 28 losses

Noble 5 Wins 29 Losses 1 draw

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4 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

I know we were bad, but North breaking records. Lost their last 11 by 40 or more.

Yes I think North are in worse shape than we were in 2013, and we were very bad, but there was still a pulse. 
The Afl are talking Tassie by 2026 as of today. Are they going to just let North lie down by 2025?

Nobody wants 19 teams, particularly if North are a Boat Anchor 

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35 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I think North are in worse shape than we were in 2013, and we were very bad, but there was still a pulse. 
The Afl are talking Tassie by 2026 as of today. Are they going to just let North lie down by 2025?

Nobody wants 19 teams, particularly if North are a Boat Anchor 

Yep rebuilds happen all the time, but when will North get better? Hard to see it at the moment.

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37 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I think North are in worse shape than we were in 2013, and we were very bad, but there was still a pulse. 
The Afl are talking Tassie by 2026 as of today. Are they going to just let North lie down by 2025?

Nobody wants 19 teams, particularly if North are a Boat Anchor 

Yep, I think the 2026 timeframe and the state of North will essentially drive North's board in this direction. In 2013 the AFL was very clear in its view that it was in the league's best interest for Melbourne to be a major Victorian club. Fast forward to 2022 and the situation with North and it is difficult to mount an argument against North relocating to Tassie in a manner similar to South Melbourne and Fitzroy to Sydney and Brisbane. The wheels are well and truly in motion.

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28 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Something i haven't heard mentioned in a very, very long time.

You only ever heard of it when they won by a few points. Unmentioned when the result was a few points the other way.

 

Absolute myth

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Noble Isn’t a good coach. I think North are pretty much on the tank anyway, and happy Noble is leading the charge. If they gain a PP, sit on the bottom next year and access more quality picks, I see them moving on Noble mid 2023 and seeking out someone more suited to take a young list places. I hope we seek out their good forwards. Be a good time to.

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14 minutes ago, Foopy on the telly said:

To be fair, you could’ve said the same thing about Paul Roos with us 9 years ago.

We improved dramatically under Roosy 

North have gone backwards at a fast rate

no, Roos built solid foundations

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Is roosy still helping out noble? But Neeld lost the players not sure if Noble has completely lost them

I wonder if they will lose players like we did. If they stick fat & hang around like some of ours did they may get rewarded like ours did or you could move on & miss out. Just ask Jeremy Howe.

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