CHANGES: Rd 05 vs GWS

[Pates 9,668]

16 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

I really hope so. He makes our backline so much better. A very underrated player imo

Given our defence has been holding up well I’d be up for giving him a game at Casey to build match fitness before being him in. 

[Go the Biff 3,457]

11 minutes ago, Pates said:

Given our defence has been holding up well I’d be up for giving him a game at Casey to build match fitness before being him in. 

He played VFL last week

[David-Demon 568]

10 minutes ago, Pates said:

Given our Defence has been holding up well I’d be up for giving him a game at Casey to build match fitness before being him in. 

Look, I am inclined to agree with you. I see no changes for round 5.

[The Swimming Dee 1,907]

11 minutes ago, Pates said:

Given our defence has been holding up well I’d be up for giving him a game at Casey to build match fitness before being him in. 

I think he already played one game there last week? The Selection Committee will make the correct call but I agree with you, if he needs another run at VFL level that is where he should play...although that comes with other risks - Ben Brown as an example

[58er 6,811]

4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

The umpires failed to recognise the old amateur league 1, 2, 3, in other words. 

SOrry Deemania  I am commenting on Dee Spencer's post you commented on.
 

That's not the point If you make the action you accept the consequences.

Mentioning the Gaff/ Brayshaw incident is not the smartest comparison. The mantra is DONT THROW your arms or fist around loosely. 

The memory of the horrible pictures of Andrew Brayshaws jaw are about as graphic as this type of action gets.

Any logic or sympathy for BBB goes out the window immediately in your inappropriate post memory. 

[58er 6,811]

1 hour ago, The Swimming Dee said:

I think he already played one game there last week? The Selection Committee will make the correct call but I agree with you, if he needs another run at VFL level that is where he should play...although that comes with other risks - Ben Brown as an example

As once when go you include the possibility of a player risking suspension in team selection?

Get real TSD ! 

[picket fence 17,971]

1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said:

Is there any chance Petty would play forward in place of the Weid?

Not the time for experiment but.... What about Smith for Weeds and play him Forward?? Any takers?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Doing the typical Demonlander thing and reading a bit into things, but going by Goody's presser today is sounds like Petty might play VFL this week just to get a bit more touch/form. He didn't specifically say that, but emphasized Petty was 'physically ready' but they'll look at whether he's ready for AFL footy yet.

 

[The Swimming Dee 1,907]

28 minutes ago, 58er said:

As once when go you include the possibility of a player risking suspension in team selection?

Get real TSD ! 

As I said, I’d like him in the team but it’s not up to me or even you…it’s just an opinion.

I also believe it to be a fact that some AFL players receive tougher attention at the lower level. 

[sisso 2,588]

Petty plays if he's ready for mine - too good a player to be kicking around in the VFL

[Deemania since 56 6,763]

35 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Not the time for experiment but.... What about Smith for Weeds and play him Forward?? Any takers?

You betcha, Picket. You betcha. You and I seem to be the only posters who seem to appreciate his true attributes - and according to his father, he is more than a son-of-a-gun, as well. His pace, alone, would be an meaningful attribute up there.

[Pates 9,668]

1 hour ago, Go the Biff said:

He played VFL last week

 

1 hour ago, The Swimming Dee said:

I think he already played one game there last week? The Selection Committee will make the correct call but I agree with you, if he needs another run at VFL level that is where he should play...although that comes with other risks - Ben Brown as an example

Ah whoops, didn’t realise he got a full run at VFL last week. I’d still be leaning towards “ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Last week was a defensive masterclass, I like the idea of rewarding those doing their job at AFL level. 

As for the idea of playing him as a forward, I’d argue that’s counterproductive and also could throw up more headaches than it solves. What if he kills it, how do we fit them all in! 

Ah these were the problems I used to look at with envy of other cubs not long ago! 😁

[binman 44,528]

I would be shocked if petty is selected.

Interrupted preseason and no preseason practice games.

One vfl game with limited minutes is too limited a preparation.

And besides, they don't need to take any risks. We are in ok shape down back.

[binman 44,528]

One change this week - tomo out  Smith in.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

10 minutes ago, binman said:

We are in ok shape down back.

 

7 minutes ago, binman said:

One change this week - tomo out  Smith in.

🤔

[binman 44,528]

9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

🤔

The two statements are not contradictory are they?

We're in ok shape down back, but will be improved by Smith replacing tomo.

Just as we will be improved when Petty comes back in.

Just as we will be improved when Salem comes back in.

 

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

10 minutes ago, binman said:

The two statements are not contradictory are they?

We're in ok shape down back, but will be improved by Smith replacing tomo.

Just as we will be improved when Petty comes back in.

Just as we will be improved when Salem comes back in.

 

I agree, i think Smith will come straight back. I had been thinking that he would be coming in for Hunt. I can't decide if hunt looked more solid last week or if I just see it less when I am not at the ground. I love what Hunt brings when he is in form but he has looked shaky to me earlier in the season. If the FD read is that Hunt is shaping up then it will be Tommo who makes room.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

9 minutes ago, binman said:

The two statements are not contradictory are they?

We're in ok shape down back, but will be improved by Smith replacing tomo.

Just as we will be improved when Petty comes back in.

Just as we will be improved when Salem comes back in.

 

I mean, Joel Smith is on limited preparation also, not to the same extent of course; but Brown wasn't brought back in after missing a week so can't see Smith (who's not really needed given we're already in 'ok shape down back') coming straight back in, especially after a goalless half.

That's leaving aside the argument about who's a better option out of Smith and Tomlinson (although we may have been given a clue by our skipper as to Maysie's thoughts...) ;)

 

[adonski 12,907]

Wish someone pumped me up for doing nothing like people do with Smif 

[Demons3031 375]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

You betcha, Picket. You betcha. You and I seem to be the only posters who seem to appreciate his true attributes - and according to his father, he is more than a son-of-a-gun, as well. His pace, alone, would be an meaningful attribute up there.

Me too-that makes three.:)

[KingDingAling 3,758]

4 minutes ago, adonski said:

Wish someone pumped me up for doing nothing like people do with Smif 

Important to get some game time into him. I suspect he is a depth player, but it’s vital he has more experience to be ready if we need him to be (at any stage). Smith is still relatively inexperienced. We need to see what he’s got, is he improving? These are questions we need to answer, and we do so because we have had injuries. Hunt is in the same boat. We are going to need to play these guys throughout the year, whether it’s when we test players or whether they step in for someone injured. To my eye, Smith made a lot of sense while Lever was out, but equally, I also didn’t like what I seen on game day, where Smith opted to mark instead of punch, and wasn’t great by foot. Maybe he’ll be better with Lever in, or maybe we as a side will be better off without Smith. This is something worth persisting with till we know the answer. Clearly Smith is rated within the playing group. 

[Go the Biff 3,457]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Not the time for experiment but.... What about Smith for Weeds and play him Forward?? Any takers?

No. Never.

[Go the Biff 3,457]

31 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

I agree, i think Smith will come straight back. I had been thinking that he would be coming in for Hunt. I can't decide if hunt looked more solid last week or if I just see it less when I am not at the ground. I love what Hunt brings when he is in form but he has looked shaky to me earlier in the season. If the FD read is that Hunt is shaping up then it will be Tommo who makes room.

Hunt is not the player of 2016 / 17. Everyone refers to his "run & carry" but since 2021 he has been defence first. I can't see that anyone's torched him this year so I guess he's doing his job. He does cough up the odd howler but beware of just looking at his DE stats as a number of his possessions are in a situation where he just has to clear the ball from pressurised defensive positions.

I expect Petty will replace Tommo in due course. Again, Tommo hasn't done much wrong but in my view, Petty is the better footballer by some margin.

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

10 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Hunt is not the player of 2016 / 17. Everyone refers to his "run & carry" but since 2021 he has been defence first. I can't see that anyone's torched him this year so I guess he's doing his job. He does cough up the odd howler but beware of just looking at his DE stats as a number of his possessions are in a situation where he just has to clear the ball from pressurised defensive positions.
 

Yeah, I hear you, but I'm actually just responding to stuff that I have seen at the game. I didn't see it on TV at the Port game and I'm not even sure I'm right. Like I say, I have historically loved what he can do, but he has looked quite indecisive with the ball in his hands and has coughed it up on a number of occasions or kicked a howler. If he stays in then I guess the FD are happy with what he is doing, I'm happy with that.

[Colm 2,190]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Not the time for experiment but.... What about Smith for Weeds and play him Forward?? Any takers?

Given the depth of talent we have in defence once we have everybody full fit and injury free I think we are going to have to think about giving minutes or games to players further forward be that in the middle or up front. 
So I’m open to the idea of Smith getting a run up front. Could also see Rivers getting some midfield time and bowser at half forward.