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NON-MFC: Round 2, 2022



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22 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Media has already changed the narrative to h being a good bloke for giving the guy his wallet back. 

Changed it to what really DID happen. 

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4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I can't see our back 6 letting too many teams kick scores like 17.5 or 16.6 too often.  Such goal kicking efficiency is against teams with poor all ground defence and deficient back 6 players/strategy which is not us.   We consistently kept teams to 60 -75 points last year.  Don't see a reason for that too change.

It will be a while before other teams can copy our style of play with the same skill we do.  Geelong is a good example:  worked for them last week, failed last night when pressure was applied.  Our style withstands pressure and we apply lots of it especially i50.  Teams will perfect part of what we do but not sure many will develop all components of it in a hurry.

Better system AND better players. No club have a trio of defenders that come close to our defensive triumvirate of May, Lever and Salem

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1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Changed it to what really DID happen. 

I thought that also.  Tuohy was walking slowly, the other guy was rushing and looking away from Tuohy and I'm not sure they saw each other.  imv Tuohy's push was a reaction to being surprised by the guy getting so close.

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Just now, Lucifers Hero said:

I thought that also.  Tuohy was walking slowly, the other guy was rushing and looking away from Tuohy and I'm not sure they saw each other.  imv Tuohy's push was a reaction to being surprised by the guy getting so close.

If this was the worst ‘misadventure’ resulting from that debacle, everyone there ought to count themselves lucky. 
That circus was an open invitation to injury or even worse. 

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54 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The old legs is old news!  Selwood gave away 4 frees, the first of which became a down the field free which, iirc resulted in an early goal for Sydney.  He did little for his team.

All that aside, my post you quoted was about their 'new', much hailed game plan which failed when pressure was applied.  They looked stuck between their old and their new method.  Neither worked.

What I'm getting at is they don't have the legs for the new game plan...good teams will pick them apart.

When the pressure came on they stated reverting to the old as you say.

...and whilst old news, it still seems to be new to Brian and his team of commentators along with many other experts.

I wonder what excuse Scott has this week for a poor performance? it's obvious Danger, Hawk & co must have had the flu again

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15 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

If this was the worst ‘misadventure’ resulting from that debacle, everyone there ought to count themselves lucky. 
That circus was an open invitation to injury or even worse. 

Not sure how any number of "security" can stop 30,000 fans jumping the fence.

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Media has already changed the narrative to him being a good bloke for giving the guy his wallet back. 

 

If you run on the ground (no matter the situation) and you get cleaned up by an AFL player it’s your fault.

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51 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I can't see our back 6 letting too many teams kick scores like 17.5 or 16.6 too often.  Such goal kicking efficiency is against teams with poor all ground defence and deficient back 6 players/strategy which is not us.   We consistently kept teams to 60 -75 points last year.  Don't see a reason for that too change.

It will be a while before other teams can copy our style of play with the same skill we do.  Geelong is a good example:  worked for them last week, failed last night when pressure was applied.  Our style withstands pressure and we apply lots of it especially i50.  Teams will perfect part of what we do but not sure many will develop all components of it in a hurry.  Sydney is looking the most likely.

Agree that our defence is ahead of other teams in the comp and that the better teams won’t score as easy against us but still feel we miss to many gettable shots for goal. 
Can’t find stats for season but as of June 8th last year our set shot kicking was 48% and the worst in the comp. 
BBB cemented his place in team after that and our kicking in Prelim and GF probably improved our average but it’s still an area I think we will need to improve. 
We dominated most of the top teams in the home and away last year but poor goal kicking often kept opposition in the game for longer than they should have been and we relied on our superior fitness levels to get the job done in the last quarter. 
 

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27 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Not sure how any number of "security" can stop 30,000 fans jumping the fence.

We’ll never know since they didn’t even make an attempt.
Anyways, at the very least they could’ve and should’ve  effected a cordon of security guards and/or cops around the players. It’s not rocket science and no laws of physics need to be broken. 

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Buddy will be out next week due to contacting covid by one of 35000 people that ran out on the ground. No not really but it wouldn't shock me. But good on him & I'm just thankful it wasn't against us.

Today I hope the lions thrash the bummers

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46 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The security were there to protect the players, not stop the crowd.

They failed miserably.

For all Gil's huffing and puffing about fines and don't run on the ground, why on earth didn't the AFL have a serious security plan for Buddy .  He was lining up for goal for 30 secs.  More than enough time to get a squad of fit security guys ready to rush the ground and encircle him. Some swans players tried but his teammates by and large failed in this too.

My memory later in the event was seeing Buddy's wife move from elation to possibly a look of major concern for his welfare. 

A miracle no-one was hurt.

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2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Media has already changed the narrative to him being a good bloke for giving the guy his wallet back. 

 

I saw that, my definition of "accidently" is slightly different to theirs.  As far as I can see from the footage, he was running straight at him...I'd hope an AFL player would have more situational awareness than that ...

Not a witch hunt as I have nothing against Tuohy but surely deserves a look??

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dangerfield just the 14 disposals last night.

Was he tagged?

nah, he's just old and cant back up week in week out...

 

Although apparently Callum Mills was following him around for a large part of the game

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Absolutely sensational moment with Buddy's goal and the crowd running on. Felt like we needed that to remind us that footy belongs to the fans, and an 'old school' footy moment like that did just that. The huge smiles from everyone involved, including Buddy, were unreal. I absolutely loved how it played out and that all the fans seemed to understand the moment. Let's not panic over things that didn't happen and just celebrate how it actually went.

As for the Tuohy 'incident'... Are you guys for real? Tuohy had people running all around him, you can see him trying to weave through the crowd and then someone just runs straight into him. Calling it a 'shirtfront' is totally ridiculous. Tuohy was just about standing still when it happened, and he immediately pointed to the blokes wallet after he got up, not exactly the actions of someone who just assaulted someone hey?

In both cases, let's not create things that weren't there or freak out over things that didn't happen, was an amazing moment all round and the fans needed it after the last couple of years..

 

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32 minutes ago, KysaiahMessiah said:

I saw that, my definition of "accidently" is slightly different to theirs.  As far as I can see from the footage, he was running straight at him...I'd hope an AFL player would have more situational awareness than that ...

Not a witch hunt as I have nothing against Tuohy but surely deserves a look??

It wouldn’t have happened if the fan didn’t run onto the ground, breaking the conditions of entry to the ground. 

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57 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

For all Gil's huffing and puffing about fines and don't run on the ground,

Tokenism. These half-ar*sed warnings served one purpose and one purpose only, that being to enable the AFL to relinquish all duty of care. 

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dangerfield just the 14 disposals last night.

Was he tagged?

Idk about Tagged but I’m pretty sure he was Fagged. Just like every other Geri-long player. 

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3 hours ago, mauriesy said:

21.14 in the GF wasn't good enough for you? 🤔

5.9 at half time certainly wasn't.

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