1 hour ago, adonski said:

Chandler is just a jobber and the club knows it which is why he get linked to quality small forwards in the draft each year (Watson, Berry)

We usually rate players by their on field performance rather than the fact the club may or may not have wanted to select another player that may or may not suit the role of the player we have. 

 

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Chandler is just a jobber and the club knows it which is why he get linked to quality small forwards in the draft each year (Watson, Berry)

GWS must think that Toby Greene is a "jobber" too then with their continued intetest in small forwards.

9 minutes ago, old55 said:

GWS must think that Toby Greene is a "jobber" too then with their continued intetest in small forwards.

They have a heap of small forwards.... think we should organise a raid of one of them end of 2025 or 2026 actually.

Plenty of Vic boys there and they can't play them all.

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

They have a heap of small forwards.... think we should organise a raid of one of them end of 2025 or 2026 actually.

Plenty of Vic boys there and they can't play them all.

I’ve heard Toby Bedford is pretty good 

Just now, demoncat said:

I’ve heard Toby Bedford is pretty good 

I was about to lay that joke too!!

4 minutes ago, demoncat said:

I’ve heard Toby Bedford is pretty good 

Seems to be a better tagger than small forward 😉

4 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

FWIW;

“

Who is the fastest player in the Melbourne Demons?

 

 

Kade Chandler

 

When it came to the club's speed Demons, Kade Chandler topped the charts with a scintillating 35.2km/hr sprint recorded in Opening Round against Sydney. Caleb Windsor and Kysaiah Pickett were the other Demons to feature in the top five speeds recorded by a Melbourne player in 2024.”

I think burst is more important for a footballer given the lack of space and Kade did a 3.06 20m in his draft year.

I'm not entirely convinced by a one off GPS number, especially at the SCG in opening round, but if he truly does have that elite top end speed I hope we see it more often. I can't remember a time when Chandler was in a foot race and completely burnt his opponent, where as Windsor and Pickett it comes through in their games.

25 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think burst is more important for a footballer given the lack of space and Kade did a 3.06 20m in his draft year.

I'm not entirely convinced by a one off GPS number, especially at the SCG in opening round, but if he truly does have that elite top end speed I hope we see it more often. I can't remember a time when Chandler was in a foot race and completely burnt his opponent, where as Windsor and Pickett it comes through in their games.

Remember listening to an interview with Windsor last year where he was asked whether he was the quickest player at the club.

"Nah Chin's got me covered comfortably".

29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think burst is more important

Yep, it's creating separation in those first few steps...

15 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Remember listening to an interview with Windsor last year where he was asked whether he was the quickest player at the club.

"Nah Chin's got me covered comfortably".

I'd like to see a race. Chandler might be coming through like Gout Gout. Even more impressive given the wind resistance his chin must cause.

Kynan did brilliantly in the time trial

And his game saving cameo against the Roos during the year shows that he has the tools. Would like to see him get a run at it

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think burst is more important for a footballer given the lack of space and Kade did a 3.06 20m in his draft year.

I'm not entirely convinced by a one off GPS number, especially at the SCG in opening round, but if he truly does have that elite top end speed I hope we see it more often. I can't remember a time when Chandler was in a foot race and completely burnt his opponent, where as Windsor and Pickett it comes through in their games.

He is quick. You don’t have to like him but blaming his lack of speed isn’t a reasonable reason to dislike him. 

In terms of Brown's speed, if he plays a role similar to nibblas role, the critical thing is not acceleration (ie burst speed, or speed off the mark) it's what they call striding speed - ie ability to cover ground, say 80 to 130 metres, at a really good clip.

And then the other factor is their ability to do multiple such sprints all game- which is where the need to also have elite aerobic capacity and endurance comes in. 

I think at least a couple of players could play a similar role at any one time ie it's not inconceivable Brown AND Sharp could play in the same team playing much the same role.

Edited December 10, 2024Dec 10 by binman

Interested to hear what regular Casey watchers think of Brown this season.

Got a senior game very early last year (as sub) but then seems to have been ignored ever since. Is he just not showing much at the moment?

him and spargo are competing for the same spot, seems like goody wont ever drop him after several sub par performances

47 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

Interested to hear what regular Casey watchers think of Brown this season.

Got a senior game very early last year (as sub) but then seems to have been ignored ever since. Is he just not showing much at the moment?

Decision making with ball in hand and overall disposal efficiency is not to AFL standard and probably has not improved much this year. His speed, work rate and tackling pressure is awesome though. He is still lightly framed as well.

I just don't see how he can possibly be worse than players such as Tholstrup (1 goal and 1 goal assist in 4 games) and Spargo (1 goal and 4 goal assists in 7 games).

At the very least Brown's tackle numbers will be off the chart.

He's putting out ok numbers at Casey. Had 25 touches and 10 tackles last weekend.

2 hours ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

Interested to hear what regular Casey watchers think of Brown this season.

Got a senior game very early last year (as sub) but then seems to have been ignored ever since. Is he just not showing much at the moment?

I am a HUGE Brown fan, attacks the ball and tackles with gusto, serious pace and in my view should be in the team without doubt!

Brown has lots of upside. His main inconsistency is with disposal, and I haven't noticed a marked improvement this year at Casey. He must know we have enough blokes who can't regularly hit up team mates on the lead. He must know that if he gets his ability to hit targets up to 'very good' he will be selected. Ball is in his court!

1 hour ago, poita said:

I just don't see how he can possibly be worse than players such as Tholstrup (1 goal and 1 goal assist in 4 games) and Spargo (1 goal and 4 goal assists in 7 games).

At the very least Brown's tackle numbers will be off the chart.

If Tholstrup didn’t have a mullet and the ‘personality’, people would be calling for him to be dropped weekly.

2 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

Decision making with ball in hand and overall disposal efficiency is not to AFL standard and probably has not improved much this year.

49 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

His main inconsistency is with disposal, and I haven't noticed a marked improvement this year at Casey. He must know we have enough blokes who can't regularly hit up team mates on the lead.

Ah. Interesting. Thanks.

2 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

Decision making with ball in hand and overall disposal efficiency is not to AFL standard and probably has not improved much this year. His speed, work rate and tackling pressure is awesome though. He is still lightly framed as well.

56 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Brown has lots of upside. His main inconsistency is with disposal, and I haven't noticed a marked improvement this year at Casey. He must know we have enough blokes who can't regularly hit up team mates on the lead. He must know that if he gets his ability to hit targets up to 'very good' he will be selected. Ball is in his court!

That's a pretty good summation of how I see him.

I really want him to break through as he's got some great attributes.

...but he has a bit of work to do.

1 hour ago, BLWNBA said:

If Tholstrup didn’t have a mullet and the ‘personality’, people would be calling for him to be dropped weekly.

I agree with you, as usual.

To me Tholstrup is a 6/10 in just about every trait. Far be it from me to criticise Jason Taylor who’s hit most high picks out of the park, but I don’t see any standout weapons that a top 15 pick should have. He’s a decent kick, a decent mark, decent physicality, seems a good teammate. But a pick 50 would get you that. I don’t see any class.

I’m worried he’s a Luke Tapscott.

Edited Tuesday at 08:255 days by Dee Boys

21 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

I’m worried he’s a Luke Tapscott.

Jesus it’s a bit early to say that, what’s Kolt played 15 games? And I don’t Think he’s played more then 5 consecutively, we need to give him a decent run at it.

I know what you’re saying and that he hasn’t shown a lot yet but he’s had quite a few almost games but he does the little things the box score won’t show you. He’ll come good, people seem to forget it’s his second year after an injury interrupted preseason.