It is time BT is pensioned off

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

37 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

He's entertaining at least. I wonder if the other commentators laugh at him.

Used to laugh watching The Muppets....unfortunately BT is one of them!

He goes off on tangents way too often and talks about irrelevant material that is not even about the game at hand.

Surely there is better out there?!

Robbo has 100x the brains of what BT does, we are badly let down by some of these clowns in the media.....Makes our game seem very amateur-ish at times.

It is not like these guys are teaching people anything about the game....Are they trying to appeal to a new audience, football lovers, or just giving tokenistic ex footy players jobs for way too long?   There is very little professionalism going on with some of these ex-footy players. 

BT/Robbo/Cameron Lings of the world would be far better suited doing something that used less brains/words....And yet some of these muppets get cemented in their jobs.   There are obviously no KPI's in being a commentator these days.

 

I really don't get it....Does Gil listen ever?   He seems like smart guy!

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by NeveroddoreveN

[Demonstone 22,315]

14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

And of course we need someone to invent an app to synch the radio and the TV.

It's been invented for some time now.  Try daansystems.com>radiodelay.

[sue 9,096]

Doubtless it's been said already, but my answer to the question of the thread title is NO. 

It is way past time BT was pensioned off.

[ben russell 764]

He’s an absolute [censored]. Constantly getting players mixed up, comments which make little to no sense and clearly has a lack of understanding of today’s game.

Referring to All-Australian and  premiership player Steven May as ‘Froffies’ May during the GF really [censored] me off.

[DubDee 25,660]

On 10/27/2021 at 12:43 PM, DeesFlag2020 said:

Having now watched the finals replays on numerous occasions, l think it is time we use our new found power in the AFL community to demand some changes in the leading commentary teams. The first to go must be BT. Not only is he so often factually wrong, but his understanding of basic tactics is so rudimentary as to be embarrassing. He is also quite open about his prejudice against the Dees. For instance:

1. l remember during the commentary for the game against Richmond on ANZAC eve last  when we were leading by over fifty points, James Brayshow suggested that Melbourne should be now favourite for the flag. BT’s reaction, “l will never believe that until Max Gawn holds up the cup in September, no matter how successful they are during the season”

2. He has no understanding of basic team tactics eg. during the GF Langdon gathered the ball on the half back flank and raced up the the wing with Kossie racing with an opponent from the centre to get in position  on the wing. Further up the field McDonald was racing towards the boundary line on the half forward flank with his opponent to give him an additional option. Langdon chose McDonald which prompted an outcry from BT saying he should have chosen Kossie (“l like Kossie” were l think his words). Several minutes later, Daisy Pearce, who was sharing the commentary with him and who has ten times his football sophistication, pointed out that he kicked it to half forward to lessen the risk of a turnover which could result in a goal to the bulldogs. Pretty basic football common sense but totally lost in his populist nonsense. 

3  Angus Bradshaw: when the Dees were surging in the 3rd quarter of the Grannie, Brayshaw took an extremely courageous diving mark on the half forward flank about 45 metres out on a severe angle. If he goaled he would put us in front for the first time since early in the second quarter. He deliberately walked back slowly with his back to the play concentrating on what needed to be done to covert. BT went ballistic saying he needed to concentrate on the game. He clearly had no idea of Brayshaw’s history in poor accuracy in kicking for goal. In fact for much of the season he was having special tuition at training every week to improve his goal kicking at Choco’s skills academy and clearly was using that to ensure he nailed it. He did, which was a key part of our resurgence. The deliberate slow walk back was part of the process to ensure successful convergence. If BT had just basic football knowledge he would have known that.

4 Neal-Bullen marked 40 metres out in the last quarter when we were six or seven goals up. BT said he has to kick this so that the side will be able to enjoy the rest of the game, but if he doesn’t they won’t. This of course was totally nonsensical,. This can be bracketed with his ridiculous comment with five minutes to go saying “not a single person had left the ground”. How could he possibly know that?—- and it was said very dogmatically. 

I’m sure there are other examples that others could add to this list.

We can do a lot better than BT. Time has passed both him and Eddie Maguire by. With much more sophisticated, and/or younger commentators (eg James Brayshaw, Daisy Pearce, Gerard Wheatley, Nick Riewoldt) providing much more nuanced commentary on a game which has become much more complex and subtle over the last 20 years, there is no long longer room for these dinosaurs. 

I propose we keep a record of all our examples of these incompetencies on Demonland, publicise them, and build a case for BT’s removal. We can do a lot better.  

Thank you - I agree 100% with everything you have written.   He is a buffon, who was once a good commentator but has lowered his colours to inflate his ego over the years.  He is more interested in being one of the boys and being 'cool' and right in his eyes rather than complimenting the game in his peripheral role.  The Kozzi moment - number 2 - is the perfect example, just call the game don't give your opinion on where he should kick it FFS. The commentary becomes about whether BT was right or not rather than the game.

The worst part he could have been a great commentator, he has a great voice and can build excitement but he's gotten too big for his boots and now looks an arrogant fool.

[Fritta and Turner 4,343]

23 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Danny Hughes could easily finish BT right off…

Made for each other those 2.  I remember Danny and Brian were having a traditional wrestle on the ground and Rodney G ran in and tried to break it up by pulling on Brians jock strap. Brian did not like it........

[PaulRB 6,346]

Watching replays of the GF and especially the burst periods we had in the third, you realise how out of touch the commentators are with the actual game going on in front of them, with weirdly disconnected ramblings rolling over our next push to goal. with them then scrambling to catch up with their role as commentators. It's like they are so eager to apply their own "narrative" to what's going on, they miss calling what's actually going on... or only call what's going on later, when it's become glaringly obvious, and their calling becomes (even more) irritating.

Plus they rarely know how to use silence.

Is there some sort of media award for best/worst commentary in AFL? 

Edited October 28, 2021 by PaulRB

[sue 9,096]

The thing I 'enjoy' most about BT is his mystical knowledge of which was the ball will turn in shots towards goal, especially when there is no wind.  Half the time it does the opposite of what he said, but he takes no notice.

[binman 42,659]

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The real problem is that if BT was removed they would replace him with someone similar.

Perhaps scope for some new commentators to break in via community radio that marketed itself as an alternative tv commentary.

And of course we need someone to invent an app to synch the radio and the TV.

While Push red for Ed on Foxtel was discontinued it was a groundbreaker on how we could do things

What i really want is an option to listen to a watch a game with with no commentator feed, but still have the crowd noise and umpires mics feed.

That would be perfect - and i assume easy enough to do given they are just different feeds into  mixer. it's not even radical idea. 

It would be much more like going to the footy, where i can't imagine listening to a radio call while watching live.

[BDA 22,735]

23 hours ago, binman said:

You couldn't write this stuff. Unless you are the herald sun.

Just jumped from this thread to the Hun ans read this headline 

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/top-50-afl-media-performers-see-who-made-the-2021-list/news-story/7bcc9f26b878586a94d361d21a360d4d

How the f**k does Dermie make 29 on that that list. How does he make the list at all. He's the worst footy pundit EVER. 

[BDA 22,735]

Just now, BDA said:

How the f**k does Dermie make 29 on that that list. How does he make the list at all. He's the worst footy pundit EVER. 

And i've down voted him. 

I've updated Daisy. She's should be Top 5 easily. Should be there instead of Robbo

[Turner 1,507]

and could he take a few mates with him please

[daisycutter 29,604]

why should bt get a pension?

he should pay back all his wages for the pain and suffering he has wrought

[dworship 3,342]

On 10/27/2021 at 2:40 PM, DeesignerAU said:

I'll play the relevance card - he mentioned twice the fact that Jack Viney and his dad Todd were the only father son to play 150 games at Melbourne - not once - but twice !!!!

Actually, a worst comment was him "thinking" of Todd "up there in Echuca". Said like they were best buddies. Todd hasn't lived there for years and to my best recollection; Todd bought a farm in the Macedon Ranges in 2019.  BT = Cringe-worthy!!

[Travis Boots 157]

Fine for radio but when on TV one cant help but reach for a razor

 

[Supermercado 2,797]

I yelled things at my TV that could get me arrested when he cracked his earthquake 'gag' when we were on 5.9. Buffoon. 

[rjay 24,878]

On 10/27/2021 at 10:30 PM, dl4e said:

BT was a bozo on the footy field and in the commentary box, However would you prefer McEvany again ? Also I don't find BT to be anti melbourne.

 

12 hours ago, Smokey said:

It's just shattering to think we'll never get the privilege of hearing Cometti call a game again. Saddens me deeply 

The 3rd option can often be the best.

Cometti was entertaining and incisive, a big loss to the game.

So, no I wouldn't prefer Bruce or BT...give me Dennis.

[DemonJohn16 12]

i would happily have BT over Dermott Brereton, BT can be a boofhead at times but he brings energy

[MT64 1,144]

9 hours ago, BDA said:

How the f**k does Dermie make 29 on that that list. How does he make the list at all. He's the worst footy pundit EVER. 

Herald Sun & Channel 7 are bed mates.

[Guest]

I’d have Jason Bennett and Nigel Carmody over the lot of them. 

[binman 42,659]

7 hours ago, Supermercado said:

I yelled things at my TV that could get me arrested when he cracked his earthquake 'gag' when we were on 5.9. Buffoon. 

As a paid up member of the Dad jokes guild I give him points for trying.

But if that joke was on his guild application it would be stamped DO NOT ALLOW TO JOIN - EVER.

A Dad joke does not have to be funny to others (just to the teller).

But it at the very least has to make some sort of sense!

I mean, 'the last time Melbourne fans experienced. 5.9 was the earthquake"?

Huh?

[sue 9,096]

16 hours ago, binman said:

What i really want is an option to listen to a watch a game with with no commentator feed, but still have the crowd noise and umpires mics feed.

That would be perfect - and i assume easy enough to do given they are just different feeds into  mixer. it's not even radical idea. 

It would be much more like going to the footy, where i can't imagine listening to a radio call while watching live.

100% agree.  I'm guessing one reason we don't just hear the crowd + umpires is that we'd get crowd+umpires+players_swearing.  May not be appropriate on free-to-air, but as an option on Fox/Kayo/whatever, why not.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

16 hours ago, BDA said:

How the f**k does Dermie make 29 on that that list. How does he make the list at all. He's the worst footy pundit EVER. 

I have to stick up for Dermie. Regardless of his personality he probably has the best footy knowledge out of most of them.

[Watson11 2,240]

On 10/27/2021 at 12:13 PM, DeesFlag2020 said:

He is also quite open about his prejudice against the Dees. For instance:

1. l remember during the commentary for the game against Richmond on ANZAC eve last  when we were leading by over fifty points, James Brayshow suggested that Melbourne should be now favourite for the flag. BT’s reaction, “l will never believe that until Max Gawn holds up the cup in September, no matter how successful they are during the season”

To be fair, if that’s the criteria for being prejudiced against the Dees then 99% of demonland was prejudiced against the Dees until recently.

[binman 42,659]

4 hours ago, sue said:

100% agree.  I'm guessing one reason we don't just hear the crowd + umpires is that we'd get crowd+umpires+players_swearing.  May not be appropriate on free-to-air, but as an option on Fox/Kayo/whatever, why not.

The feed would be exactly the same as it currently is - sans commentary 

That's to say you currently hear the crowd and the umpire mics.

All they'd need to do is not include the feed from the commentary box.

Dead easy. And almost cost free.

They might end up saving money when they realise lots of people might prefer the no commentary option and thst tbey are wasting money on blokes who can't string words together coherently, let alone do their job of calling games.