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49 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

It could end up being a last round million dollar play off between the MFC and Lions womens game. 
 

A high stakes game 

Just a bit, now that Freo loss will hurt even more.

The girls need to take care of business this weekend first.

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From the AFL website:

'The McClelland Trophy...[is]...to include the AFLW competition, with...[the]...prize money to be shared between the club and all its players.' [my italics x 2]

So, girls and boys (and 'club').

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18 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Just a bit, now that Freo loss will hurt even more.

The girls need to take care of business this weekend first.

...and/or that GWS one!

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1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

We no longer sell the Alice game just for the $. That used to be the reason but it’s not so anymore. For one, the NT govt is one of our larger sponsors. And I’m not gonna go into how much it means for the community there. I’ve done so before and have regretted it, suffice to say I’m not as thick-skinned as I need to be. 

There are many ways we can help the NT, without Selling Home Games. 
That Philosophy grew from the 2008 era. 
Our core business is winning Premierships

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3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Got take care of business against Freo first but geeze that final round will be a big game for a lot of reasons.

Would be nice to see the blokes get behind the girls, but one sign of the poor culture at the club has been how little our men seem to care about the girls.

Goodwin specifically called out the AFLW team and their great season at the BnF. He said he "can smell another flag". Let's hope so, it would really turn around a frustrating year for the club.

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2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

We no longer sell the Alice game just for the $. That used to be the reason but it’s not so anymore. For one, the NT govt is one of our larger sponsors. And I’m not gonna go into how much it means for the community there. I’ve done so before and have regretted it, suffice to say I’m not as thick-skinned as I need to be. 

This debate seems to be heavily influenced by perceptions of how playing in ASP - most notably the travel, particularly if the following match involves a difficult game, standard-, timing-, and/or location-wise - affects the team's performance.

In this - as in so many other issues! - we 'Landers are prone to 'project' (guilty as charged, Your Honour!) The players' actual views would be interesting.

It wouldn't surprise me, I must say, if they enjoyed the change of scenery, figuratively and literally (particularly in and around ASP) and the stimulation that travel, with friends, provides.

On the other hand, I can recognise the possibility such distraction or stimulation might negatively affect performance. particularly that oft-referred-to '1%'. This should be manageable, however.

I can also recognise supporters' responses to a 'lost' home game, if replacement arrangements aren't equal or better for them.

 

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5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Back in the Day, each VFL Side had U19 Reserves and Seniors. Back in the Days when September had crowds of 115,000 jammed into The MCG 

The Good Doctor was awarded back in those days, and there should have been a Financial Prize for the winner  

 

I am not even sure the AFL Premiership winner received a monetary amount then. Don’t be so precious because you have made a rather outlandish statement when sponsorship was a pipe dream. 

I am well aware that the Dees were during their glory years ( 1954 to 1964 ) multi winners of the McClelland Trophy when Firsts Reserves and Under19’s were included. But a cash donation or prize then really?As you know we had limited chances during our 57 year hideaway only in the1987 to 1994 or in 1998 or from 2000 to 2006 if it was still held then. 

Your assertion has the aura of a very salty fan that is grumpily throwing a toy or two out of your cot. 

Just be thankful our Club is in the box seat in 2023 for this magnificent prize money and is in the hands of our top shelf AFLW women’s team who will give it an almighty shake like they did in the GF at that venue in Season7 and come up trumps again. 

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4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

There are many ways we can help the NT, without Selling Home Games. 
That Philosophy grew from the 2008 era. 
Our core business is winning Premierships

Hawthorn did alright and won 3 premierships being in Tasmania. We won a premiership too, in 2021 
 

This are just a little more complicated……… WYL…..

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1 hour ago, 58er said:

I am not even sure the AFL Premiership winner received a monetary amount then. Don’t be so precious because you have made a rather outlandish statement when sponsorship was a pipe dream. 

I am well aware that the Dees were during their glory years ( 1954 to 1964 ) multi winners of the McClelland Trophy when Firsts Reserves and Under19’s were included. But a cash donation or prize then really?As you know we had limited chances during our 57 year hideaway only in the1987 to 1994 or in 1998 or from 2000 to 2006 if it was still held then. 

Your assertion has the aura of a very salty fan that is grumpily throwing a toy or two out of your cot. 

Just be thankful our Club is in the box seat in 2023 for this magnificent prize money and is in the hands of our top shelf AFLW women’s team who will give it an almighty shake like they did in the GF at that venue in Season7 and come up trumps again. 

Sorry i have no idea what you are trying to say. 
my point is quite simple

Many Years ago when the Dr. McLelland Trophy was awarded to the Team who was the highest finisher of The U19, Reserves and Seniors in a Season, there should have been a Financial Reward. 
This is for a Competition that pulled 121,000 to a GF in 1970

Where did all that money go??

I have always wondered. Bit like Cricket when Bradman was in charge…

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29 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Hawthorn did alright and won 3 premierships being in Tasmania. We won a premiership too, in 2021 
 

This are just a little more complicated……… WYL…..

As I said, there are many ways we can assist the NT, without giving up home games. ($500,000) We need to make that money elsewhere. 
I have no interest in hawthorn. They can do as they please. We must aim to be bigger, and not rely on handouts. It only gives opposition an edge they don’t deserve. 

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57 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

As I said, there are many ways we can assist the NT, without giving up home games. ($500,000) We need to make that money elsewhere. 
I have no interest in hawthorn. They can do as they please. We must aim to be bigger, and not rely on handouts. It only gives opposition an edge they don’t deserve. 

Simplistic once again WYL. Put some thought into the sponsorship, developing local talent and the drafting possibilities. 
 

We are becoming a big club despite the decades of being in the wilderness. We live in a national league and should compete on a bigger scale  outside our city, Melbourne. 
 

I suggest the club knows better and will do what’s best for primarily for our success on field and off

Chin up…

 

 

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Just now, Demonsterative said:

Simplistic once again WYL. Put some thought into the sponsorship, developing local talent and the drafting possibilities. 
 

We are becoming a big club despite the decades of being in the wilderness. We live in a national league and should compete on a bigger scale  outside our city, Melbourne. 
 

I suggest the club knows better and will do what’s best for primarily for our success on field and off

Chin up…

 

 

I see it differently 

playing in the NT this year cost us 2nd Spot. 
Sliding Doors…

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2 hours ago, Lexinator said:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1057086/sharing-the-wealth-how-1m-mcclelland-trophy-prize-will-be-split

An article to explain how the money will be split to the winning club.

Interesting article! Of course there should be some incentive for the boys, but it feels a bit disingenuous to give the boys the same $250,000 as the girls when the money means so much more (and goes so much further for the improvement of) the girls comp! 

The difference between equality and equity in action

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5 minutes ago, DeelightfulPlay said:

Interesting article! Of course there should be some incentive for the boys, but it feels a bit disingenuous to give the boys the same $250,000 as the girls when the money means so much more (and goes so much further for the improvement of) the girls comp! 

The difference between equality and equity in action

couple of things

the boys list is larger, so per head payment to girls will be higher

the boys played 23 h&a games vs 10 ... just saying

and finally the club get $500k which they could (hopefully) spend on upgrading facilities etc for the girls

but sure, the girls have a bigger gap to close

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1 hour ago, DeelightfulPlay said:

Interesting article! Of course there should be some incentive for the boys, but it feels a bit disingenuous to give the boys the same $250,000 as the girls when the money means so much more (and goes so much further for the improvement of) the girls comp! 

The difference between equality and equity in action

Totally agree with this. Most of the girls have day jobs, not because they want to but because they have to. If they didn’t have to work a day job there’d be so much more time to devote to all things footy, just as the boys do now. 

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

the boys played 23 h&a games vs 10 ... just saying

 

Firstly, all 18 clubs have begged the AFL to extend the W season to at least 17 rounds. No club wants a pitiful 10-round H&A season. But that’s a side point.

My main point is that the W play 10 rounds which is 43% of the 23 rounds played by the M. But they certainly aren’t getting paid 43% of what the M are paid.

Even if the $250,000 was split amongst the W players only, they still wouldn’t be anywhere near the rate of pay of the M. 

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it will count against the AFL's soft cap restrictions

Seems a bit rough on the coaches and support staff, I don't get the rationale for that at all. I really have been feeling like the support staff and coaches deserve a bit more of the pot from TV rights or whatever. The whole show is not taxed and the AFL management are disproportionately rewarded compared to the workers who make it happen. 

So in the end for a player the money is similar to the baby bonus, you can choose talcum powder or a humongous flat screen TV. 

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