On 17/08/2021 at 03:07, dazzledavey36 said:

There was some footage on Gaff last night from On The Couch.

It was pretty damming to say at least. Little 15m chip backwards that resulted in no forward thrusts.

If anyone can get the footage that would be helpful. 

Saw that last night. I suspect this is their game plan. I doubt he was like that a few years ago but TBH don't know his play well enough to know. 

  On 17/08/2021 at 03:41, dazzledavey36 said:

This has been a significant part of Gaff's game for a long time. He simply has no hurt factor and as Garry Lyon said, it's also been part of his natural game for a long time.

32 disposals for only 284m gained is not good numbers for a wingman of his calibre.

The game plan itself is outdated and ordinary.  

I'm not advocating we get him just pointing out that he's playing the game plan the coach wants.  I don't think it's his fault, I think he's doing what he is being asked to do.

  On 17/08/2021 at 04:34, Baghdad Bob said:

I'm not advocating we get him just pointing out that he's playing the game plan the coach wants.  I don't think it's his fault, I think he's doing what he is being asked to do.

He would want too much and I don't think he's worth it.

  On 17/08/2021 at 04:34, Baghdad Bob said:

I'm not advocating we get him just pointing out that he's playing the game plan the coach wants.  I don't think it's his fault, I think he's doing what he is being asked to do.

I think it's 50/50. Their game plan was always built on the chip around style and overwork teams. Certainly helped his short 15m passes.

But I think this is also been his natural game well before simmo came on board. Simmo just strengthened it even further.

  On 17/08/2021 at 03:07, dazzledavey36 said:

There was some footage on Gaff last night from On The Couch.

It was pretty damming to say at least. Little 15m chip backwards that resulted in no forward thrusts.

If anyone can get the footage that would be helpful. 

Gaffs an accumulator ! Nothing more nothing less ! 👀👀

  On 17/08/2021 at 03:51, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

I would have a red hot go at Maynard and Duggan

A yes to either or both of these 'Lil'...would be more than a good get.

I'm still on the offer up Brayshaw for Cerra.  The wage wouldn't be to much different.  I just see Brayshaw as a player that has some value that we can cover with others on the list.  He would slot into the centre square next to his brother and Serong at Fremantle and Cerra would slot nicely onto a wing for us.

  On 17/08/2021 at 05:37, drdrake said:

I'm still on the offer up Brayshaw for Cerra.  The wage wouldn't be to much different.  I just see Brayshaw as a player that has some value that we can cover with others on the list.  He would slot into the centre square next to his brother and Serong at Fremantle and Cerra would slot nicely onto a wing for us.

but how would Cerra go on the podcast?

  On 17/08/2021 at 05:37, drdrake said:

I'm still on the offer up Brayshaw for Cerra.

You’d need to offer extras in the deal to get Cerra, he still has scope for improvement, Angus on the other hand is a known commodity.

  On 17/08/2021 at 03:33, adonski said:

 

25 mins in 

 

Yeah, I saw this on OTC. It's game plan and structures. Anyone saying we shouldn't go after Gaff, if the price is right, is kidding themselves. We went hard for Smith, thought we had him and then he chose Geelong. If we go close this year, players won't be picking an aging Geelong, they'll be picking us.

Article today online regarding Ben King becoming available end of 2022. My view is so whatever you can to snag him. Free up salary cap etc. 

I get that it’s a long shot but Tigers getting Lynch gave them an extra two premierships that they couldn’t win with Riewoldt alone. They got rid of a few players along the way so it wasn’t an easy call. 

  On 17/08/2021 at 07:15, CYB said:

Article today online regarding Ben King becoming available end of 2022. My view is so whatever you can to snag him. Free up salary cap etc. 

I get that it’s a long shot but Tigers getting Lynch gave them an extra two premierships that they couldn’t win with Riewoldt alone. They got rid of a few players along the way so it wasn’t an easy call. 

I'd trade Steven May for him.

  On 17/08/2021 at 07:24, dazzledavey36 said:

I'd trade Steven May for him.

Many on here would think Nibbler and AVB would get it done.

Depending on how this year pans out, I could be convinced too

  On 17/08/2021 at 06:53, Demon Disciple said:

You’d need to offer extras in the deal to get Cerra, he still has scope for improvement, Angus on the other hand is a known commodity.

Yep, throw a pick in

On 3AW Matthew Lloyd listed 8 players who should figure in trade discussions- 

• Geelong’s Charlie Constable and Quinton Narkle;
• Western Bulldogs’ Mitch Wallis, Pat Lipinski and Ed Richards;
• Richmond’s Mabior Chol;
• Adelaide’s Tom Lynch and
• Melbourne’s Sam Weideman.

  On 17/08/2021 at 09:46, Whispering_Jack said:

On 3AW Matthew Lloyd listed 8 players who should figure in trade discussions- 

• Geelong’s Charlie Constable and Quinton Narkle;
• Western Bulldogs’ Mitch Wallis, Pat Lipinski and Ed Richards;
• Richmond’s Mabior Chol;
• Adelaide’s Tom Lynch and
• Melbourne’s Sam Weideman.

Haven't watched Lynch this year, but have always wanted him on our list. How has his form and fitness been this year? and comparatively v Melksham, who he'd be in contention with for a half forward role in the 22 next year, if we gave him a years or two contract?

I suppose with Melksham perhaps playing a role in the finals, and being contracted until the end of 2022, there isn't much point, unless his upside for a few years is worth the small gamble?

Edited August 17, 20213 yr by John Demonic

  On 17/08/2021 at 19:52, John Demonic said:

Haven't watched Lynch this year, but have always wanted him on our list. How has his form and fitness been this year? and comparatively v Melksham, who he'd be in contention with for a half forward role in the 22 next year, if we gave him a years or two contract?

I suppose with Melksham perhaps playing a role in the finals, and being contracted until the end of 2022, there isn't much point, unless his upside for a few years is worth the small gamble?

The most recent evidence suggests he is a long, long way ahead of Melksham.

Believe Lynch has missed a lot of footy this year through injury but he’s a much more consistent player than Melk and definitely knows how to play a role, plus he’s taller and harder to match up on.

 

Adelaide CEO said on 3AW a fe nights ago that Lynch will be DFA but they may backtrack. Doubt it tho.

  On 17/08/2021 at 19:52, John Demonic said:

Haven't watched Lynch this year, but have always wanted him on our list. How has his form and fitness been this year? and comparatively v Melksham, who he'd be in contention with for a half forward role in the 22 next year, if we gave him a years or two contract?

I suppose with Melksham perhaps playing a role in the finals, and being contracted until the end of 2022, there isn't much point, unless his upside for a few years is worth the small gamble?

100% on the money. Lynch is in the same fold as Melksham. There may be a little upside but not worth the extra salary cap space imo.

I'd love Maynard but i think the club still rates Lockhart really highly and expect him to be that small/lockdown defender role next season

  On 17/08/2021 at 06:53, Demon Disciple said:

You’d need to offer extras in the deal to get Cerra, he still has scope for improvement, Angus on the other hand is a known commodity.

 

  On 17/08/2021 at 05:37, drdrake said:

I'm still on the offer up Brayshaw for Cerra.  The wage wouldn't be to much different.  I just see Brayshaw as a player that has some value that we can cover with others on the list.  He would slot into the centre square next to his brother and Serong at Fremantle and Cerra would slot nicely onto a wing for us.

Haha come on fellas, Gus is ok but Cerra is incredible 

Maybe you haven't been watching enough Freo games but he will be a star of the comp in 2-3 years (if not sooner) 

If we could trade Gus for Cerra that would be one of the all time steals for us

There is no chance this happens though. 

  On 18/08/2021 at 03:21, WA Demon Boy said:

 

Haha come on fellas, Gus is ok but Cerra is incredible 

Maybe you haven't been watching enough Freo games but he will be a star of the comp in 2-3 years (if not sooner) 

If we could trade Gus for Cerra that would be one of the all time steals for us

There is no chance this happens though. 

I agree with you on Cerra, have watched him a bit this year.  If he is leaving Freo, why wouldn't we see if we can add Gus and some picks to get him.  You have Cerra on the wing and it really completes our Midfield.  The Dockers have some really good young players on their list getting a player like Brayshaw and a pick will add more than Carlton's first round pick.

As a player who wouldn't entertain an offer from a team that is sitting on top of the ladder.

You have to be careful with Gus. He seems like he’s a part of the fabric if that group. That’s from afar, but footy teams have a delicate culture if you don’t respect that culture.

  On 18/08/2021 at 00:50, DemonLad5 said:

I'd love Maynard but i think the club still rates Lockhart really highly and expect him to be that small/lockdown defender role next season

Lockhart is nowhere near the player that Maynard is!

  On 18/08/2021 at 03:46, rpfc said:

You have to be careful with Gus. He seems like he’s a part of the fabric if that group. That’s from afar, but footy teams have a delicate culture if you don’t respect that culture.

I also have 2 GUS Cups which I drink out of, Needs to be retained for this reason as well.