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Taylor Walker - sanction for racism


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5 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Hi Colin! Please if you will, explain what these terms mean. 

De jure: How a law, sanction or situation is recognized on paper

De facto: What a law, sanction or situation is in reality. I.e. de facto wife

 

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15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Walker has shown remorse. 
What Rubbish 

This is the real problem 

He got caught. That is not remorse

“I am so sorry ….. that I was caught”

Perhaps a better (additional) punishment would be to have all his goals 2021 rescinded, which would give us the 4 points for the AO game 🤗🤗🙄🙄

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14 hours ago, Emerald said:

A wise man once said "let he without sin cast the first stone" but I guess the book it came from got thrown out when the AFL started playing games on Good Friday.

I am sure we are all with sin, according to that silly books definition anyway. What we are talking hear is hanging sh..t on someone because they came from a particular country, oddly that country is Australia.  Walker knows that so it is much much dearer in his psych. Gee, this has just been going on for far far too long. 

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12 hours ago, RickyJ45 said:

But why the waterworks from Nicks?

Surely if he had set expected standards of behavior regarding racial vilification he would be angry and dissapointed at Taylor for breaching those standards. 

More of selfish display and reverse leadership from Nicks than anything.

 

 

Nicks played , even in his last game, with Goodes and O'Loughlin.

He only joined Crows last year. 

He gets it and must be mortified of the comments by an apparent 'club legend' of his new employer.

I suspect he has an admiration for indigenous players that goes beyond what many of us have/or had and this really hurt. 

How dare he show his emotional side!

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Unfortunate that it takes such large penalties to make people in his position see what should go without saying.

 

Don't make racist comments and you won't get punished at all.

 

It's quite simple.

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4 hours ago, OhMyDees said:

Eddie Betts and Charlie Cameron two prominent indigenous players left the club during his tenure as Adelaide Captain…coincident or not?  

Let’s also not forget how poorly he treated Jake Lever when he decided to leave the Crows….
 

The guy is not a leader’s butthole. He is a complete [censored] with the mentality of a child. If he never plays again it’ll be too soon. Nobody will remember him for being anything other than a massive [censored]. 

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I actually don’t think the penalty is big enough, particularly financially. The AFL industry spends millions every year on indigenous programs, and a highly publicised and well regarded indigenous round. Indigenous players have brought an extraordinary amount to our game, and the AFL acknowledges this and wants to protect their place in it.

Monkhurst and Long was 26 years ago. There’s no excuse for not being aware of any of this. It might be the dumbest thing a player has done on field in 15 years. If I was a sponsor at the crows I’d be pulling my money.

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19 hours ago, rjay said:

Don't take this the wrong way...we can work to eradicate the words but what troubles me is the thinking behind the words.

For all the enquiries and work on racist issues in the AFL It's obviously still there and at club level, not just the odd bogan in the crowd.

The words are hurtful but why do AFL players in particular still have this racist thinking? I'm guessing Tex is not the only one by the way, that would be impossible to believe. So whilst he's been caught out voicing his thoughts others will be harbouring the same thinking.

Whilst Australia has a proud history of multiculturalism/multiracial, there is always a feeling there is a vocal minority that either don’t understand or don’t want to understand the hurt that racist view have on society. Tex is merely the manifestation of that, as reflected by sky news, Andrew Bolt, Peta Credlin, etc etc etc. Fortunately at the official level through governments, local councils, schools, public services and companies there is close to zero tolerance to racial intolerance, as there is now to sexism. And yet, it still manages to manifest itself publicly at regular intervals which would seem to me to suggest there is still a small but vocal minority that either does “get” that racial intolerance is wrong, or worse it is a key driver of their lives. All the more reason why such behaviour should always be called out, and where appropriate punished. Organisations like the AFL have key roles in this particularly given their influence on young lives.;

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1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

I actually don’t think the penalty is big enough, particularly financially. The AFL industry spends millions every year on indigenous programs, and a highly publicised and well regarded indigenous round. Indigenous players have brought an extraordinary amount to our game, and the AFL acknowledges this and wants to protect their place in it.

Monkhurst and Long was 26 years ago. There’s no excuse for not being aware of any of this. It might be the dumbest thing a player has done on field in 15 years. If I was a sponsor at the crows I’d be pulling my money.

Was it done "on field" though?

Thought I read he was overheard taking while watching a game from the sidelines?

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1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

I actually don’t think the penalty is big enough, particularly financially. The AFL industry spends millions every year on indigenous programs, and a highly publicised and well regarded indigenous round. Indigenous players have brought an extraordinary amount to our game, and the AFL acknowledges this and wants to protect their place in it.

Excellent point. 👍🏽

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49 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

there is still a small but vocal minority that either does “get” that racial intolerance is wrong, or worse it is a key driver of their lives.

Unfortunately I suspect the small, vocal minority might be a bit larger than we think.

Many might not speak out but it's the underlying thoughts that bother me, Tex just spoke to probably what was always on his mind.

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3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Pretty sure it was during a game in which he was playing at either the 1/4 or 3/4 time huddle.

Ah ok. Must have read it wrong.

What a moron. 

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6 hours ago, rjay said:

Unfortunately I suspect the small, vocal minority might be a bit larger than we think.

Many might not speak out but it's the underlying thoughts that bother me, Tex just spoke to probably what was always on his mind.

Agreed, less of a vocal minority and more a case of Baby Boomer era majority populous that don't have the desire to educate and grow with the times.

I think we've all given him too much of our valuable time and energy that should be focussed on more positive endeavours like the mighty Red and Blue!! 

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1 hour ago, DurriePirate said:

Agreed, less of a vocal minority and more a case of Baby Boomer era majority populous that don't have the desire to educate and grow with the times.

I think we've all given him too much of our valuable time and energy that should be focussed on more positive endeavours like the mighty Red and Blue!! 

hey, that baby boomer comment is plain offensive and unwarranted. more your prejudice showing.

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21 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

hey, that baby boomer comment is plain offensive and unwarranted. more your prejudice showing.

Kevin Rudd is a baby boomer and the only politician, so far, with th guts to do a Federal Parliament apology to Stolen Generation.

Wer'e all not the same.

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43 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

hey, that baby boomer comment is plain offensive and unwarranted. more your prejudice showing.

 

21 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Kevin Rudd is a baby boomer and the only politician, so far, with th guts to do a Federal Parliament apology to Stolen Generation.

Wer'e all not the same.

I think anyone disparaging baby boomers isn't actually being ageist. Baby Boomer is a statement of mind. If it doesn't apply to you, it isn't aimed at you.

https://www.theoccidentalnews.com/opinions/2019/11/19/ok-boomer-attacks-a-mindset-not-a-generation/2899726

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