Taylor Walker - sanction for racism

[Lord Nev 13,512]

5 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Whoa there. "Baby boomer majority populous"? Does that actually mean something? Aren't you guilty of making the sort of gross generalisations that create bias and prejudice? If you're suggesting that 'Baby Boomers' are racist, uneducated and afraid of change, you're showing a clear predilection for swallowing populist propaganda. We 'Boomers' might be a lot of things,  but to suggest that we are a racist majority is truly offensive and plain ignorant. I'm getting a bit tired of this inane commentary on a generation that took the opportunities available to them and made something of themselves without waiting for someone else to give it to them.

Imagine how Indigenous Aussies feel then boomer...

Honestly, imagine that what you take out of this whole thing is that you're upset about how boomers are being presented.

🤦‍♂️

[The Reverend 1,736]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Imagine how Indigenous Aussies feel then boomer...

Honestly, imagine that what you take out of this whole thing is that you're upset about how boomers are being presented.

🤦‍♂️

You'll have to make your point a whole lot clearer for me LN. I have no idea where your logic is heading. Ignorance and playing the blame game is no substitute for intelligent and rational debate.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

You'll have to make your point a whole lot clearer for me LN. I have no idea where your logic is heading. Ignorance and playing the blame game is no substitute for intelligent and rational debate.

Turning a thread about racism towards Indigenous Australians into a thread where boomers sook about being the victims of generalizations is a perfect example of how racism in Australia works.

That clear enough for you?

[The Reverend 1,736]

4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Turning a thread about racism towards Indigenous Australians into a thread where boomers sook about being the victims of generalizations is a perfect example of how racism in Australia works.

That clear enough for you?

Still lost, but whatever Nev...

 

[Dees2014 2,377]

On 8/7/2021 at 2:45 PM, rjay said:

Unfortunately I suspect the small, vocal minority might be a bit larger than we think.

Many might not speak out but it's the underlying thoughts that bother me, Tex just spoke to probably what was always on his mind.

Unfortunately l agree with you. In Australia it is the insidious racism (ie just below the surface) which is the most corrosive, rather than the overt. The interesting thing about the Tex episode is that he made it very public (albeit I’m sure he thought it would not be called out - the “boys club”  at work again). Fortunately there were enough people both as players and official who found this totally unacceptable and called it out.

Maybe we are making progress after all, although l wouldn’t bet on it. 

[faultydet 7,619]

9 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

Unfortunately l agree with you. In Australia it is the insidious racism (ie just below the surface) which is the most corrosive, rather than the overt. The interesting thing about the Tex episode is that he made it very public (albeit I’m sure he thought it would not be called out - the “boys club”  at work again). Fortunately there were enough people both as players and official who found this totally unacceptable and called it out.

Maybe we are making progress after all, although l wouldn’t bet on it. 

You must be quite young.

 

The changes I have witnessed in my 50+ years have been dramatic and welcome.

[rjay 25,063]

10 minutes ago, faultydet said:

You must be quite young.

 

The changes I have witnessed in my 50+ years have been dramatic and welcome.

There have been huge changes 'faulty'...but you have to wonder how many of these are really just on the surface.

We've shut down a lot of what people say on and off the field but that doesn't stop what are really thinking.

Sometimes by shutting down the voice, which is ugly and needs to be, we are hiding the real thoughts of many people.

We might be kidding ourselves that we have made real advances, I hope not...

Betts thinks things are getting worse.

We have a long, long way to go...

 

[Guest]

I [censored]king hate this…. 🤬

I could potentially not use the expletive I just did, but that’s how annoyed I am about the turn this thread has started to take, in addition to one or two other bad faith threads that are bobbing up.

It’s the same as every other thread vaguely mentioning race on here.

It might start with vague allusions to how well meaning attempts to stamp out racist language (as measured by an entirely binary metric of we either stamp it out entirely or do nothing at all) is a fools errand.

It then might move onto someone inferring how ‘white males are subject to discrimination too!’ Or how the abuse highlighted really isn’t that bad. Usually, some justification, or excuse for the behavior comes up. Conditional sympathy for the perpetrator is an absolute Monty. Accusations of the aggrieved being an activist, leftist plant is marginally less ubiquitous. If we’re feeling really despicable, some type of dog whistle might be thrown in.

When the pack feels they have reclaimed the narrative, they then proceed to become belligerent and mocking so they can shout down dissenting voices (which hasn’t happened yet because they’ve been outflanked so far). Once that happens, the entire thread turns into a complete dumpster fire which needs to be shut down thanks to things becoming exclusively focused on the acts of a few individuals, and thus becoming a pejorative slanging match about which poster has the right to feel most victimized.

No analysis of the greater structures of society has taken place and no one is wiser to the nature of white supremacy globally, systemic racism or discrimination in Australia.

Mission accomplished.

Call me paranoid, but I’ve seen it enough times on here to know what will happen. It happens with enough regularity that one might call it premeditated.

As Matthew Nicks pointed out, racism in its most predominant Australian forms is based on a structural, material and historical narrative. There is a background beyond ‘bad’ person wakes up, ‘bad’ person says ‘bad’ thing and ‘good’ people stop them. 🤦‍♂️ 

The act Taylor Walker performed engendered a feeling of solidarity, as @Demonstonenoted, rarely seen on here since probably 148 or the day Roosy was signed. It was comforting to see. However, it’s undergirding pillar was that his comments are an expression of a mindset that were previously used to justify colonialism, scientific racism, child separation and slavery.

That is WHY we are trying to stamp out anti Black racism and other forms of discrimination  against marginalized communities. We don’t want to minimize it because we are neurotically obsessed about the hurt feelings of every single person in said community at every single moment. It’s [censored]ing about an entire system that spreads from Africa to Asia, and South America and Australia that has spawned this toxicity. It keeps them from the centers of economic and political power, and has reinforced uneven, barbaric and frequently undemocratic systems. We stand with our Black and multi racial brothers and sisters when attacked, but there’s clearly a bigger story at play.

It’s not 3rd grade ‘Johnny’s being mean to me, so tell him off’ style primary school stuff.

It’s historical and can be empirically measured. I just really wish that some on here would do what Black Lives Matter suggest. I’ll be accused of being some type of Marxist propagandist for referencing a group I’m proudly involved with, but I have no more frigs to give and if you are suitably triggered by that, I’m delighted.

Do the work. Read about Australia’s history on race. Watch movies like Utopia, The Final Quarter, Bastardy or White Light (a documentary about South Side Chicago produced by Aussie director, George Gittoes). Read books such as a Handful of Sand by Charlie Ward about the Wave Hill walkoff in the 60’s, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, the recent book on the Honduran environmental activist Berta Careces or Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community by Dr. Martin Luther King. Hell, if you are looking to step outside your comfort zone, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X or How Europe Underdeveloped Africa if you want your assumptions thrown back in your face. Speak to any people of color that you can and be prepared to LISTEN, not just wait for your turn to talk so you can dominate the conversation.

Just try to learn something before you come here posing as a tribune on ‘what racism is’ and disrupting these threads. 

Do that. At the very least.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Colin B. Flaubert
Wanted to add one more point and clean up the grammar

[faultydet 7,619]

9 minutes ago, rjay said:

There have been huge changes 'faulty'...but you have to wonder how many of these are really just on the surface.

We've shut down a lot of what people say on and off the field but that doesn't stop what are really thinking.

Sometimes by shutting down the voice, which is ugly and needs to be, we are hiding the real thoughts of many people.

We might be kidding ourselves that we have made real advances, I hope not...

Betts thinks things are getting worse.

We have a long, long way to go...

 

Actually rjay, I have to agree with most if not all of this.

Voices are certainly being silenced, but many (not all) of the opinions are still there.

 

[faultydet 7,619]

9 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I [censored]king hate this…. 🤬

I could potentially not use the expletive I just did, but that’s how annoyed I am about the turn this thread has started to take, in addition to one or two other bad faith threads that are bobbing up.

It’s the same as every other thread vaguely mentioning race on here.

It might start with vague allusions to how well meaning attempts to stamp racist language (as measured by an entirely binary metric of we either stamp it out entirely or do nothing at all) is a fools errand.

It then might move onto someone inferring how ‘white males are subject to discrimination too!’ Or how the abuse highlighted really isn’t that bad. Usually, some justification, or excuse for the behavior comes up. Conditional sympathy for the perpetrator is an absolute Monty. Accusations of the aggrieved being an activist, leftist plant is marginally less ubiquitous. If we’re feeling really gross some type of dog whistle might be thrown in.

When the pack feels they have reclaimed the narrative, they then proceed to become belligerent and mocking so they can shout down dissenting voices (which hasn’t happened yet because they’ve been outflanked so far). Once that happens, the entire thread turns into a complete dumpster fire which needs to be shut down thanks to things becoming exclusively focused on the acts of a few individuals, and thus becoming a pejorative slanging match about which poster has the right to feel most victimized.

No analysis of the greater structures of society has taken place and no one is wiser to the nature of white supremacy globally, systemic racism or discrimination in Australia.

Mission accomplished.

Call me paranoid, but I’ve seen it enough times on here to know what will happen. It happens with enough regularity that one might call it premeditated.

When as Matthew Nicks pointed out, racism in its most predominant Australian forms is based on a structural, material and historical narrative. There is a background beyond ‘bad’ person wakes up, ‘bad’ person says ‘bad’ thing and ‘good’ people stop them. 🤦‍♂️ 

The act Taylor Walker engendered a feeling of solidarity, as @Demonstonenoted. It was comforting to see. However, I t’s undergirding pillar was that his comments are an expression of a mindset that were previously used to justify colonialism, scientific racism, child separation and slavery.

That is WHY we are trying to stamp out anti Black racism and other forms of discrimination  against marginalized communities. We don’t want to minimize it because we are worried about hurt feelings of every single person in said community. It’s [censored]ing about an entire system that spreads from Africa to Asia, and South America and Australia that has spawned this toxicity. It keeps them from the centers of economic and political power, and has reinforced uneven, barbaric and frequently undemocratic systems,

It’s not 3rd grade ‘Johnny’s being mean to me, so tell him off’ style primary school stuff.

It’s historical and can be empirically measured. I just really wish that some on here would do what Black Lives Matter suggest. I’ll be accused of being some type of Marxist propagandist for referencing a group I’m proudly involved with, but I have no more frigs to give and if you are triggered by that, I’m delighted.

Do the work. Read about Australia’s history on race. Watch movies like Utopia, The Last Quarter or White Light (a documentary about South Side Chicago produced by Aussie director, George Gittoes). Read books such as a Handful of Sand, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander by Charlie Ward about the Wave Hill walkoff in the 60’s, the recent book on the Honduran environmental activist Berta Careces or Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community by Dr. Martin Luther King. Hell, if you are looking to step outside your comfort zone, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X or How Europe Underdeveloped Africa if you want your assumptions thrown back in your face.

Just try and learn something before you come here posing as a tribune on ‘what racism is before you come here to disrupt these threads. 

Do that. At the very least.

And people accuse me of being over the top.

 

Seriously Col, try to relax.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,433]

Irrespective of what Walker himself decides to do about next year his club have already made the decision to keep him on for 2022 judging by the six week ban handed down. You'd think if they has any intention of ripping up his contract they'd already have done it. It'll be interesting to see if on the back of that whether any of their current indigenous players seek a move away or if it makes bringing in players more difficult. If nothing else at least they didn't hold a presser to announce it being a proud day for the Adelaide Football Club. 

[dees189227 12,395]

Just read Alir alir last night copped some racial stuff to. 

On Tex not only is he an ex captain who should no better but he is a married 31 year old man who is a father of 2. Not the best example to set. Also what's with the statement the players association putting out a statement basically worrying about Tex and protecting him. also is it a bit unprofessional to put out a statement and use his nickname than his proper name. It seemed all a bit casual. 

[dieter 3,325]

24 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I [censored]king hate this…. 🤬

I could potentially not use the expletive I just did, but that’s how annoyed I am about the turn this thread has started to take, in addition to one or two other bad faith threads that are bobbing up.

It’s the same as every other thread vaguely mentioning race on here.

It might start with vague allusions to how well meaning attempts to stamp out racist language (as measured by an entirely binary metric of we either stamp it out entirely or do nothing at all) is a fools errand.

It then might move onto someone inferring how ‘white males are subject to discrimination too!’ Or how the abuse highlighted really isn’t that bad. Usually, some justification, or excuse for the behavior comes up. Conditional sympathy for the perpetrator is an absolute Monty. Accusations of the aggrieved being an activist, leftist plant is marginally less ubiquitous. If we’re feeling really despicable, some type of dog whistle might be thrown in.

When the pack feels they have reclaimed the narrative, they then proceed to become belligerent and mocking so they can shout down dissenting voices (which hasn’t happened yet because they’ve been outflanked so far). Once that happens, the entire thread turns into a complete dumpster fire which needs to be shut down thanks to things becoming exclusively focused on the acts of a few individuals, and thus becoming a pejorative slanging match about which poster has the right to feel most victimized.

No analysis of the greater structures of society has taken place and no one is wiser to the nature of white supremacy globally, systemic racism or discrimination in Australia.

Mission accomplished.

Call me paranoid, but I’ve seen it enough times on here to know what will happen. It happens with enough regularity that one might call it premeditated.

As Matthew Nicks pointed out, racism in its most predominant Australian forms is based on a structural, material and historical narrative. There is a background beyond ‘bad’ person wakes up, ‘bad’ person says ‘bad’ thing and ‘good’ people stop them. 🤦‍♂️ 

The act Taylor Walker engendered a feeling of solidarity, as @Demonstonenoted, rarely seen on here since probably 148 or the day Roosy was signed. It was comforting to see. However, it’s undergirding pillar was that his comments are an expression of a mindset that were previously used to justify colonialism, scientific racism, child separation and slavery.

That is WHY we are trying to stamp out anti Black racism and other forms of discrimination  against marginalized communities. We don’t want to minimize it because we are neurotically obsessed about the hurt feelings of every single person in said community at every single moment. It’s [censored]ing about an entire system that spreads from Africa to Asia, and South America and Australia that has spawned this toxicity. It keeps them from the centers of economic and political power, and has reinforced uneven, barbaric and frequently undemocratic systems. We stand with our Black and multi racial brothers and sisters when attacked, but there’s clearly a bigger story at play.

It’s not 3rd grade ‘Johnny’s being mean to me, so tell him off’ style primary school stuff.

It’s historical and can be empirically measured. I just really wish that some on here would do what Black Lives Matter suggest. I’ll be accused of being some type of Marxist propagandist for referencing a group I’m proudly involved with, but I have no more frigs to give and if you are suitably triggered by that, I’m delighted.

Do the work. Read about Australia’s history on race. Watch movies like Utopia, The Final Quarter, Bastardy or White Light (a documentary about South Side Chicago produced by Aussie director, George Gittoes). Read books such as a Handful of Sand by Charlie Ward about the Wave Hill walkoff in the 60’s, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, the recent book on the Honduran environmental activist Berta Careces or Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community by Dr. Martin Luther King. Hell, if you are looking to step outside your comfort zone, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X or How Europe Underdeveloped Africa if you want your assumptions thrown back in your face. Speak to any people of color that you can and be prepared to LISTEN, not just wait for your turn to talk so you can dominate the conversation.

Just try and learn something before you come here posing as a tribune on ‘what racism is’ and disrupting these threads. 

Do that. At the very least.

Fantastic stuff, Mr Flaubert. I've just breathed a huge wave of contentment that somebody on this site - on any site, for that matter - can shine a light on how inherent and persistent and barely beneath the surface racism is in this country - as it is in most so-called Christian and white societies: it always has been so. Once again, thanks...

[dieter 3,325]

22 minutes ago, faultydet said:

And people accuse me of being over the top.

 

Seriously Col, try to relax.

I'd rather be over the top than under it. Or, better to be blatant than latent.

[Cranky Franky 2,089]

59 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I [censored]king hate this…. 🤬

I could potentially not use the expletive I just did, but that’s how annoyed I am about the turn this thread has started to take, in addition to one or two other bad faith threads that are bobbing up.

It’s the same as every other thread vaguely mentioning race on here.

It might start with vague allusions to how well meaning attempts to stamp out racist language (as measured by an entirely binary metric of we either stamp it out entirely or do nothing at all) is a fools errand.

It then might move onto someone inferring how ‘white males are subject to discrimination too!’ Or how the abuse highlighted really isn’t that bad. Usually, some justification, or excuse for the behavior comes up. Conditional sympathy for the perpetrator is an absolute Monty. Accusations of the aggrieved being an activist, leftist plant is marginally less ubiquitous. If we’re feeling really despicable, some type of dog whistle might be thrown in.

When the pack feels they have reclaimed the narrative, they then proceed to become belligerent and mocking so they can shout down dissenting voices (which hasn’t happened yet because they’ve been outflanked so far). Once that happens, the entire thread turns into a complete dumpster fire which needs to be shut down thanks to things becoming exclusively focused on the acts of a few individuals, and thus becoming a pejorative slanging match about which poster has the right to feel most victimized.

No analysis of the greater structures of society has taken place and no one is wiser to the nature of white supremacy globally, systemic racism or discrimination in Australia.

Mission accomplished.

Call me paranoid, but I’ve seen it enough times on here to know what will happen. It happens with enough regularity that one might call it premeditated.

As Matthew Nicks pointed out, racism in its most predominant Australian forms is based on a structural, material and historical narrative. There is a background beyond ‘bad’ person wakes up, ‘bad’ person says ‘bad’ thing and ‘good’ people stop them. 🤦‍♂️ 

The act Taylor Walker performed engendered a feeling of solidarity, as @Demonstonenoted, rarely seen on here since probably 148 or the day Roosy was signed. It was comforting to see. However, it’s undergirding pillar was that his comments are an expression of a mindset that were previously used to justify colonialism, scientific racism, child separation and slavery.

That is WHY we are trying to stamp out anti Black racism and other forms of discrimination  against marginalized communities. We don’t want to minimize it because we are neurotically obsessed about the hurt feelings of every single person in said community at every single moment. It’s [censored]ing about an entire system that spreads from Africa to Asia, and South America and Australia that has spawned this toxicity. It keeps them from the centers of economic and political power, and has reinforced uneven, barbaric and frequently undemocratic systems. We stand with our Black and multi racial brothers and sisters when attacked, but there’s clearly a bigger story at play.

It’s not 3rd grade ‘Johnny’s being mean to me, so tell him off’ style primary school stuff.

It’s historical and can be empirically measured. I just really wish that some on here would do what Black Lives Matter suggest. I’ll be accused of being some type of Marxist propagandist for referencing a group I’m proudly involved with, but I have no more frigs to give and if you are suitably triggered by that, I’m delighted.

Do the work. Read about Australia’s history on race. Watch movies like Utopia, The Final Quarter, Bastardy or White Light (a documentary about South Side Chicago produced by Aussie director, George Gittoes). Read books such as a Handful of Sand by Charlie Ward about the Wave Hill walkoff in the 60’s, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, the recent book on the Honduran environmental activist Berta Careces or Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community by Dr. Martin Luther King. Hell, if you are looking to step outside your comfort zone, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X or How Europe Underdeveloped Africa if you want your assumptions thrown back in your face. Speak to any people of color that you can and be prepared to LISTEN, not just wait for your turn to talk so you can dominate the conversation.

Just try to learn something before you come here posing as a tribune on ‘what racism is’ and disrupting these threads. 

Do that. At the very least.

Try & keep it to 50 words. Its pretty incoherent and are you maybe trying to impress people by quoting a lot of biographies ?

And why are you only concerned with anti black racism ?

Isn't all racism a problem ?

 

 

[Cranky Franky 2,089]

36 minutes ago, dieter said:

Fantastic stuff, Mr Flaubert. I've just breathed a huge wave of contentment that somebody on this site - on any site, for that matter - can shine a light on how inherent and persistent and barely beneath the surface racism is in this country - as it is in most so-called Christian and white societies: it always has been so. Once again, thanks...

Oh God help us a Dieter & Flaubert love in.

[deanox 9,985]

34 minutes ago, dieter said:

I'd rather be over the top than under it. Or, better to be blatant than latent.

It's not enough to be "against racism" is it? You need to be actively anti-racist.

(And bring anti-racist doesn't mean that you don't do, say, think or act in a way that is racist at times. It means calling it out when you see it, and owning it and trying to improve when you get called out.)

Edited August 8, 2021 by deanox

[Neil Crompton 5,600]

1 hour ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I [censored]king hate this…. 🤬

I could potentially not use the expletive I just did, but that’s how annoyed I am about the turn this thread has started to take, in addition to one or two other bad faith threads that are bobbing up.

It’s the same as every other thread vaguely mentioning race on here.

It might start with vague allusions to how well meaning attempts to stamp out racist language (as measured by an entirely binary metric of we either stamp it out entirely or do nothing at all) is a fools errand.

It then might move onto someone inferring how ‘white males are subject to discrimination too!’ Or how the abuse highlighted really isn’t that bad. Usually, some justification, or excuse for the behavior comes up. Conditional sympathy for the perpetrator is an absolute Monty. Accusations of the aggrieved being an activist, leftist plant is marginally less ubiquitous. If we’re feeling really despicable, some type of dog whistle might be thrown in.

When the pack feels they have reclaimed the narrative, they then proceed to become belligerent and mocking so they can shout down dissenting voices (which hasn’t happened yet because they’ve been outflanked so far). Once that happens, the entire thread turns into a complete dumpster fire which needs to be shut down thanks to things becoming exclusively focused on the acts of a few individuals, and thus becoming a pejorative slanging match about which poster has the right to feel most victimized.

No analysis of the greater structures of society has taken place and no one is wiser to the nature of white supremacy globally, systemic racism or discrimination in Australia.

Mission accomplished.

Call me paranoid, but I’ve seen it enough times on here to know what will happen. It happens with enough regularity that one might call it premeditated.

As Matthew Nicks pointed out, racism in its most predominant Australian forms is based on a structural, material and historical narrative. There is a background beyond ‘bad’ person wakes up, ‘bad’ person says ‘bad’ thing and ‘good’ people stop them. 🤦‍♂️ 

The act Taylor Walker performed engendered a feeling of solidarity, as @Demonstonenoted, rarely seen on here since probably 148 or the day Roosy was signed. It was comforting to see. However, it’s undergirding pillar was that his comments are an expression of a mindset that were previously used to justify colonialism, scientific racism, child separation and slavery.

That is WHY we are trying to stamp out anti Black racism and other forms of discrimination  against marginalized communities. We don’t want to minimize it because we are neurotically obsessed about the hurt feelings of every single person in said community at every single moment. It’s [censored]ing about an entire system that spreads from Africa to Asia, and South America and Australia that has spawned this toxicity. It keeps them from the centers of economic and political power, and has reinforced uneven, barbaric and frequently undemocratic systems. We stand with our Black and multi racial brothers and sisters when attacked, but there’s clearly a bigger story at play.

It’s not 3rd grade ‘Johnny’s being mean to me, so tell him off’ style primary school stuff.

It’s historical and can be empirically measured. I just really wish that some on here would do what Black Lives Matter suggest. I’ll be accused of being some type of Marxist propagandist for referencing a group I’m proudly involved with, but I have no more frigs to give and if you are suitably triggered by that, I’m delighted.

Do the work. Read about Australia’s history on race. Watch movies like Utopia, The Final Quarter, Bastardy or White Light (a documentary about South Side Chicago produced by Aussie director, George Gittoes). Read books such as a Handful of Sand by Charlie Ward about the Wave Hill walkoff in the 60’s, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, the recent book on the Honduran environmental activist Berta Careces or Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community by Dr. Martin Luther King. Hell, if you are looking to step outside your comfort zone, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X or How Europe Underdeveloped Africa if you want your assumptions thrown back in your face. Speak to any people of color that you can and be prepared to LISTEN, not just wait for your turn to talk so you can dominate the conversation.

Just try to learn something before you come here posing as a tribune on ‘what racism is’ and disrupting these threads. 

Do that. At the very least.

I’m calling you out Colin!

In the bio under your avatar you list “apathy” as your main interest. Anyone who can write such an impassioned post as yours is certainly not apathetic! 

[deanox 9,985]

3 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Try & keep it to 50 words. Its pretty incoherent and are you maybe trying to impress people by quoting a lot of biographies ?

And why are you only concerned with anti black racism ?

Isn't all racism a problem ?

 

 

This is a topic about racism against First nations people, that might give you a clue why anti-black is the main theme.

 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Try & keep it to 50 words. Its pretty incoherent and are you maybe trying to impress people by quoting a lot of biographies ?

And why are you only concerned with anti black racism ?

Isn't all racism a problem ?

 

 

A request to sum up a historical blight in 50 words dating back 500 years makes my point better than I ever could.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Colin B. Flaubert
Removed a word

[daisycutter 29,703]

17 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

A request to sum up a historical blight in 50 words dating back 500 years makes my point better than I ever could.

just a thought.....

the very sort of bogans you are trying to get through to, would never read such a wall of text. you just end up preaching to the choir

😉

[faultydet 7,619]

48 minutes ago, deanox said:

It's not enough to be "against racism" is it? You need to be actively anti-racist.

(And bring anti-racist doesn't mean that you don't do, say, think or act in a way that is racist at times. It means calling it out when you see it, and owning it and trying to improve when you get called out.)

I'd normally argue, but there is not much to argue about here. Good points.

However there are still reasons for people to not "call out" racism when they see examples of it. For example, if they fear a smack in the teeth for getting involved? I would not blame anyone for that.

All things equal, any sensible and fair human would call out blatant racism as it is repugnant.

It's activism I have a problem with, as activists see racism everywhere.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

Try & keep it to 50 words. Its pretty incoherent and are you maybe trying to impress people by quoting a lot of biographies ?

And why are you only concerned with anti black racism ?

Isn't all racism a problem ?

 

 

I guess he is concerned about anti black racism because that is the subject matter.

[red&blue1982 255]

19 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Kevin Rudd is a baby boomer and the only politician, so far, with th guts to do a Federal Parliament apology to Stolen Generation.

Wer'e all not the same.

'guts' is debatable. You could just as easily say it was an advantageous political statement.

But I agree you should judge people on there actions, not there age or appearance.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Some additional context here. What if our beloved Kozzie was racially abused by a fool like Walker. Cop it on the chin? Compare it to Oliver being called a ranger?  never forget we became for a century or more superior to indigenous people by violence and superior force