Time to panic?

[leave it to deever 17,621]

Like Covid here in Nsw.... things have taken a turn for the worse.
A few of us were talking about our grand finals tickets.
Yes I blame you people.
We are still 12 ...3 but are slipping down the ladder almost as fast as my Agl shares on the Asx.
We have a tough run home too.
Our mids have been all over the place and our forward line so many of us( well I was) ....excited about our options seems to have imploded.
Our slow starts are a mystery and a huge problem.
It may not be panic stations yet but its getting close.
How big is our Port game?
What needs to be done re
1.
Our fwd line
2.
Our slow starts.
3.
Our fifty entries.
4.
Our clearances.

[dazzledavey36 56,361]

No.

But there are some genuine concerns if things aren't rectified. 

[layzie 34,528]

Not yet but there are questions and we must be proactive in finding answers. 

[BDA 23,048]

No point panicking

We're flat at the moment. Goody and the brains trust need to work overtime this week and figure out how to freshen up this team.

[Gorgoroth 13,220]

We lack mental toughness at the min. We have gone from sharing the ball and desiring the team ethics to players thinking they can do everything themselves. 
Viney burning Trac and then next qtr Trac could have squared the ball to Viney but went for the long kick to the goal sqaure made me wonder if he did it on purpose. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

people talking about grand finals need to have a good hard look at themselves. 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,704]

FWIW Liam Pickering had a good take on Crunch Time (SEN) today. Reckons it’s just a little dip in form and our issues are fixable with games under the belt in the run home. 
there was a 10-15 min segment discussing Dees and the theme was ‘no panic yet’ 

 

[Dave1711 145]

  On 04/07/2021 at 05:06, leave it to deever said:

Like Covid here in Nsw.... things have taken a turn for the worse.
A few of us were talking about our grand finals tickets.
Yes I blame you people.
We are still 12 ...3 but are slipping down the ladder almost as fast as my Agl shares on the Asx.
We have a tough run home too.
Our mids have been all over the place and our forward line so many of us( well I was) ....excited about our options seems to have imploded.
Our slow starts are a mystery and a huge problem.
It may not be panic stations yet but its getting close.
How big is our Port game?
What needs to be done re
1.
Our fwd line
2.
Our slow starts.
3.
Our fifty entries.
4.
Our clearances.

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Clearances are non existent out of centre, something needs to be done about that.

 The forward line needs another tall, other Weed or Brown, and either ANB or Kozzie need a rest.

Edited July 4, 2021 by Dave1711

[Demon Dynasty 17,169]

Wouldn't be as worried had we won two out of the last three against teams who are well below us.

IMHO the rot started setting in against the Pies and has ebbed through the team since.

We were effectively a man down while Weid was in and now with Viney back we've been a man down since his return also.  He might get back to his best given enough time but for the moment he is a liability through the middle.

We looked a bit better when Harmes played more mid time vs Viney prior to his return.

We were one inside mid too many y'day and a KF short with the obvious move (once the radar showed very little chance of rain) BB in for Sparrow.  BB was a chance of kicking at least two and there's your over the line win.  We would still be sitting two clear of everyone and a loss against Port would not be so critical to ladder position.  Instead we now find ourselves up against it fighting for a top four place if we do.

It's amazing how much better a forward line clicks and how much incentive you offer those coming off HB/through the middle, at center bounces to extract the pill, run their guts out and link up to get it there when you know you have a tall target who can mark on a lead and overhead vs even the tallest opponents ...AND convert!  Same with the smalls crumbing the spills.

The selectors /  Goody only have themselves to blame for ignoring BB's form the week before, missing the opportunity to stretch the Giants backs and make the most of our entries inside 50.  Dumbest non selection of the year and it may cost us dearly.

Form is a fickle thing and we may struggle to find it again with only seven weeks left against some very tough opponents.

Edited July 4, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Gorgoroth 13,220]

  On 04/07/2021 at 06:42, Deemented Are Go! said:

FWIW Liam Pickering had a good take on Crunch Time (SEN) today. Reckons it’s just a little dip in form and our issues are fixable with games under the belt in the run home. 
there was a 10-15 min segment discussing Dees and the theme was ‘no panic yet’ 

 

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I agree, you can tell by how we share the ball and hit the corridor if we are on or not, and even vs ess we were not in good form. 
teams have dips, swans just have come out of one, it’s a matter of how long we have it and how many we lose whilst in it.

[Dave1711 145]

  On 04/07/2021 at 07:02, Rusty Nails said:

Wouldn't be as worried had we won two out of the last three against teams who are well below us.

IMHO the rot started setting in against the Pies and has ebbed through the team since.

We were effectively a man down while Weid was in and now with Viney back we've been a man down since his return also.  He might get back to his best given enough time but for the moment he is a liability through the middle.

We looked a bit better when Harmes played more mid time vs Viney prior to his return.

We were one inside mid too many y'day and a KF short with the obvious move (once the radar showed very little chance of rain) BB in for Sparrow.  BB was a chance of kicking at least two and there's your over the line win.  We would still be sitting two clear of everyone and a loss against Port would not be so critical to ladder position.  Instead we now find ourselves up against it fighting for a top four place if we do.

It's amazing how much better a forward line clicks and how much incentive you offer those coming off HB/through the middle, at center bounces to extract the pill, run their guts out and link up to get it there when you know you have a tall target who can mark on a lead and overhead vs even the tallest opponents.  Same with the smalls crumbing the spills.

The selectors /  Goody only have themselves to blame for ignoring BB's form the week before, missing the opportunity to stretch the Giants backs and make the most of our entries inside 50.  Dumbest non selection of the year and it may cost us dearly.

Form is a fickle thing and we may struggle to find it again with only seven weeks left against some very tough opponents.

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Goodwin is too arrogant to make basic changes, he’ll stick with these blokes again next week

[brendan 3,458]

Problem we have now is the teams around us fighting for top 4 have much easier runs than us so for us to finish top 4 we will need to have at least 2 wins out of our games against port, bulldogs, Geelong and Eagles while winning the ones we should, on current form I have us finishing 5th and playing Essendon or Richmond in an elimination final 

[Deemania since 56 6,810]

  On 04/07/2021 at 06:42, Deemented Are Go! said:

FWIW Liam Pickering had a good take on Crunch Time (SEN) today. Reckons it’s just a little dip in form and our issues are fixable with games under the belt in the run home. 
there was a 10-15 min segment discussing Dees and the theme was ‘no panic yet’ 

 

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Interesting the word 'panic' is used instead of 'action' in which there are plenty of resources to deal with an our form slump - some are so obvious it angers quite a few of us that the FD has not taken these, nor predicted such needs. Crunch time will come as a consequence but could be avoided entirely; show us the light, Chocko and Ooze.

 

[leave it to deever 17,621]

  On 04/07/2021 at 07:05, Dave1711 said:

Goodwin is too arrogant to make basic changes, he’ll stick with these blokes again next week

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It sounded like he would at his presser but I think he will reluctantly make some changes.

Others will be advising him to I reckon and Im sure Goody will see we need a tall.

To be painfully obvious, our smalls cant crumb what tall defenders mark or punch to their players.

Fritta is a good player but hes not big or strong enough to play full forward.

He is great on a lead but the manner in which it was delivered at times didnt help.

Im not even against Daw if the club is adamant bbbs not up to it

I dont want to revisit weid.

Whats the scoop on Mitch Brown?

Is there anyone else?

Should Jackson spend less time off the ball?

Or should Tmac just stay in the square if he doesnt?

[Engorged Onion 10,226]

  On 04/07/2021 at 07:14, leave it to deever said:

It sounded like he would at his presser but I think he will reluctantly make some changes.

Others will be advising him to I reckon and Im sure Goody will see we need a tall.

To be painfully obvious, our smalls cant crumb what tall defenders mark or punch to their players.

Fritta is a good player but hes not big or strong enough to play full forward.

He is great on a lead but the manner in which it was delivered at times didnt help.

Im not even against Daw if the club is adamant bbbs not up to it

I dont want to revisit weid.

Whats the scoop on Mitch Brown?

Is there anyone else?

Should Jackson spend less time off the ball?

Or should Tmac just stay in the square if he doesnt?

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All these rhetorical questions into the ether - thanks for joining Demonland Bruce ?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

  On 04/07/2021 at 05:06, leave it to deever said:

What needs to be done re
1.
Our fwd line
2.
Our slow starts.
3.
Our fifty entries.
4.
Our clearances.

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Spot on.

[leave it to deever 17,621]

 

For the mature folk on this site.

This show was pure Gold.

 

[praha 11,267]

I can handle losing to GWS and even Adelaide in Adelaide. But losing to Collingwood... I think that says a lot. Our form since the Brisbane game has been very average. Collingwood is stupendously average.

[Sydee 4,684]

  On 04/07/2021 at 05:06, leave it to deever said:

Like Covid here in Nsw.... things have taken a turn for the worse.
A few of us were talking about our grand finals tickets.
Yes I blame you people.
We are still 12 ...3 but are slipping down the ladder almost as fast as my Agl shares on the Asx.
We have a tough run home too.
Our mids have been all over the place and our forward line so many of us( well I was) ....excited about our options seems to have imploded.
Our slow starts are a mystery and a huge problem.
It may not be panic stations yet but its getting close.
How big is our Port game?
What needs to be done re
1.
Our fwd line
2.
Our slow starts.
3.
Our fifty entries.
4.
Our clearances.

Expand  

Hey thanks for the large font and bold text - makes it easy for old farts like me to read 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,983]

No but anyone wishing to panic even more feel free to use my share. 

[Sydee 4,684]

No point panicking

We are either the real deal or just had a nice run and the reality bus is about to crash into us head on 

Tbh my 50 plus years supporting this club would suggest the head on collision is imminent - I would love to think I’m wrong but when you look at the last few weeks and the run home this team has it work cut out 

 

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Better to be in a form slump in July than September. No point peaking now. But we need to sort out our issues ASAP so we don’t completely ruin our chances of finishing top 4. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

No not yet. Will be after Thursday night though. 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

You can play the right team on the right week and you can play the wrong team on the wrong week. 

Who wouldn't have loved to play West Coast this week. 

[bobby1554 1,275]

  On 04/07/2021 at 07:30, praha said:

I can handle losing to GWS and even Adelaide in Adelaide. But losing to Collingwood... I think that says a lot. Our form since the Brisbane game has been very average. Collingwood is stupendously average.

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Especially given their form since!