NON MFC: Rd 15 2021

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9 minutes ago, Jaded said:

But we could well finish 4th or 5th because of it. We have by far the hardest draw of the rest of the top 5 sides. We play Geelong, Port, Dogs and West Coast (away). The rest have maybe one game left against a top 5 side. 
 

Imagine coming into a finals series knowing we've beaten 2/3 other top 4 sides twice. 'Twould be nice.

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5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'll cop a bit for this but I honestly think the doggies are currently the best team in the comp.

A lot of people thought that until we beat them.

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Just now, drysdale demon said:

A lot of people thought that until we beat them.

Yes but we've also been beaten by 2 bottom clubs. Does that mean they are better then us?

Doggies defence can be shaky, and our forwards structure set up is still questionable. 

When doggies played us they had Treloar, Dunkley, Stefan Martin and Toby McLean. We only had Viney. All 4 of those players are pivotal to their line up.

 

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2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes but we've also been beaten by 2 bottom clubs. Does that mean they are better then us?

Doggies defence can be shaky, and our forwards structure set up is still questionable. 

When doggies played us they had Treloar, Dunkley, Stefan Martin and Toby McLean. We only had Viney. All 4 of those players are pivotal to their line up.

 

Stef Martin and McLean missing? We also had Austin Bradtke & Vanders missing that game, equivalent outs...

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43 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Percentage is irrelevant if we finish first or second.

 

24 minutes ago, Jaded said:

But we could well finish 4th or 5th because of it. We have by far the hardest draw of the rest of the top 5 sides. We play Geelong, Port, Dogs and West Coast (away). The rest have maybe one game left against a top 5 side. 
 

Just keep winning. 

Doesn’t matter by how much though my ❤️?❤️? mightn’t stand too many close wins. 

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Until we can find a dominant key forward we are not going to score big wins. We rely too much on team contributors. BBB and Weideman aren’t playing. They were supposed to be the key forwards but haven’t showed up. 

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23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes but we've also been beaten by 2 bottom clubs. Does that mean they are better then us?

Doggies defence can be shaky, and our forwards structure set up is still questionable. 

When doggies played us they had Treloar, Dunkley, Stefan Martin and Toby McLean. We only had Viney. All 4 of those players are pivotal to their line up.

 

Those missing players may have made a difference but they couldn't  cope with our pressure in the last half. Their defence is certainly their weak link compared to ours which this year is our strongest suit.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We haven't put teams away at all and I reckon it's going to potentially cost us in the long run.

I'll cop a bit for this but I honestly think the doggies are currently the best team in the comp.

We haven't put teams away like the doggies have but we beat them without too much fuss when we played them.

Our system and structure beat their champagne football. We nullified Libba at source, denied them space through the corridor and that was the game. Beveridge has his work cut out devising a plan against us.

We’ve beaten all the top teams. The dogs have lost to Geelong, Richmond and us. I reckon they are more worried about us than we are of them. We beat them comprehensively once and I back us to beat them again at the G

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4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Just checked the doggies fixture. They've got a dream run home. Only game they could potentially drop is us only.

The rest are all bottom 8 bar Port Adelaide last round.

They've got Sydney, in the top 8, and Essendon, pressing for top 8.

Their game against us is at the G, a ground we're undefeated at this year and not their strongest ground.

4 hours ago, Jaded said:

Yep and our ordinary percentage thanks to our inability to put teams away is going to hurt us in the run home. Finish 3rd or 4th and get sent to play Lions at the Gabba would be a complete disaster. 

Our "ordinary percentage" of 131.4%

0.1% behind Brisbane and then 9.2% or more in front of everyone else?

FFS.

3 hours ago, Jaded said:

But we could well finish 4th or 5th because of it. We have by far the hardest draw of the rest of the top 5 sides. We play Geelong, Port, Dogs and West Coast (away). The rest have maybe one game left against a top 5 side. 
 

See above.

We're 10% ahead of everyone on percentage except Brisbane. That gets us, on your doomsday scenario, to 3rd.

As to the draw, yes we have more games against good sides than anyone else, but:

1. We're 5-0 against the top 8 and 9-0 against the top 12
2. It may be a good thing to be repeatedly tested in the final eight weeks prior to finals. Or would you rather play rubbish sides who we won't see again in September?

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes but we've also been beaten by 2 bottom clubs. Does that mean they are better then us?

Doggies defence can be shaky, and our forwards structure set up is still questionable. 

When doggies played us they had Treloar, Dunkley, Stefan Martin and Toby McLean. We only had Viney. All 4 of those players are pivotal to their line up.

We were missing Tomlinson, whilst McLean is not "pivotal" to their line up, he's arguably not even in their best 22 when Treloar and Dunkley are fit.

The Dogs are good, obviously, but I'm sick of people always looking for reasons to doubt us.

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19 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

They've got Sydney, in the top 8, and Essendon, pressing for top 8.

Their game against us is at the G, a ground we're undefeated at this year and not their strongest ground.

Our "ordinary percentage" of 131.4%

0.1% behind Brisbane and then 9.2% or more in front of everyone else?

FFS.

See above.

We're 10% ahead of everyone on percentage except Brisbane. That gets us, on your doomsday scenario, to 3rd.

As to the draw, yes we have more games against good sides than anyone else, but:

1. We're 5-0 against the top 8 and 9-0 against the top 12
2. It may be a good thing to be repeatedly tested in the final eight weeks prior to finals. Or would you rather play rubbish sides who we won't see again in September?

We were missing Tomlinson, whilst McLean is not "pivotal" to their line up, he's arguably not even in their best 22 when Treloar and Dunkley are fit.

The Dogs are good, obviously, but I'm sick of people always looking for reasons to doubt us.

Sydney and Essendon aren't going to trouble them just like they haven't troubled any of the other top 4 teams. These are the games they easily eat up.

On the other point, yeah maybe you're right about McLean, but the other I have named like Wood and Martin alongside those 2 are important cogs to their line-up. They brought in Martin specially so they could release English more up forward the same way we are doing with Jackson. Though it hasn't quite worked due to injury, no doubt Martin and Wood will be crucial come September. 

It's not really much about doubt mate, more so just an opinion from what I see from a naked eye perspective. 

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sydney and Essendon aren't going to trouble them just like they haven't troubled any of the other top 4 teams. These are the games they easily eat up.

On the other point, yeah maybe you're right about McLean, but the other I have named like Wood and Martin alongside those 2 are important cogs to their line-up. They brought in Martin specially so they could release English more up forward the same way we are doing with Jackson. Though it hasn't quite worked due to injury, no doubt Martin and Wood will be crucial come September. 

It's not really much about doubt mate, more so just an opinion from what I see from a naked eye perspective. 

Sydney's beaten Brisbane and Geelong, nearly just beat Port in Adelaide, and also beat Richmond on the G.

They're not pushovers and are a bit like us in that they seem to do better against good sides than bad.

But yes, we have the hardest draw of our competitors and it's going to require us to win some big 8-point games to hold our top 2 spot.

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22 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Sydney's beaten Brisbane and Geelong, nearly just beat Port in Adelaide, and also beat Richmond on the G.

They're not pushovers and are a bit like us in that they seem to do better against good sides than bad.

But yes, we have the hardest draw of our competitors and it's going to require us to win some big 8-point games to hold our top 2 spot.

I just think Sydney will start to fall away. I honestly don't know why, but more so on gut feel. I think they'll still make the 8, but cant see them doing much damage.

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