7 hours ago, Turner said:

i honestly don't think Trac makes it this season, i think it is he OR oliver not both and i think oliver has had the superior year. with midfielders if you're the best in your side you attract so much of the footy and stand out more easily. 

i think its hard to go past Bont, Oliver, Lyons, Walsh (W), Wines, Touk, Macrae (W), Parish without throwing him to a cheeky flank, but imo probably hasn't starred as much as some people seem to think. he'd be more in the guthrie, mccluggage, steele, discussion which is more your 40 squad but miss the cut.

Gawn, Lever, May, Oliver for mine

Well I think Oliver is a better play all round but petracca is the perfect guy to put on a half forward flank. Just like what they do with Danger and Dusty. 

langdon is by some margin the best wingman in the game this year

but i fully expect the all oztrayan selectors to stick with tradition and name ostensible on-ballers on the wing (walsh, macrae, or miller) and half-forward flanks (petracca, bontempelli)

in terms of the squad at the moment i'd have may, lever, salem, gawn, oliver, petracca, langdon in it, but only expecting one of may or lever in it, plus gawn, oliver, and petracca

but who knows how the final six rounds will play out and how recency bias influences selection

I'm not sure if there is a bias towards Melbourne here, but by my count there are 6 in this rolling AA team.

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2021/2021/07/08/rolling-all-australian-team-round-16/?fbclid=IwAR01OkX4uW8F_kwP4Xzf73ihhTRnLRKFR9M0nPg0PuO6YKTSEiIb8rqNxLA

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

I'm not sure if there is a bias towards Melbourne here, but by my count there are 6 in this rolling AA team.

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2021/2021/07/08/rolling-all-australian-team-round-16/?fbclid=IwAR01OkX4uW8F_kwP4Xzf73ihhTRnLRKFR9M0nPg0PuO6YKTSEiIb8rqNxLA

It's a decent side they've put together.

On 7/10/2021 at 12:54 AM, whatwhat say what said:

langdon is by some margin the best wingman in the game this year

but i fully expect the all oztrayan selectors to stick with tradition and name ostensible on-ballers on the wing (walsh, macrae, or miller) and half-forward flanks (petracca, bontempelli)

in terms of the squad at the moment i'd have may, lever, salem, gawn, oliver, petracca, langdon in it, but only expecting one of may or lever in it, plus gawn, oliver, and petracca

but who knows how the final six rounds will play out and how recency bias influences selection

He’s a gun but not in the past 5-6 weeks he’s only been good. Not great

Petracca.  Oliver. Gawn.  May. Lever. Salem. 
All set for AA squad of 40 at least.  

All-Australian team will be announced this Thursday, and while he's unlikely to get a spot in the final 22, surely Kozzy Pickett deserves to be part of the conversation. 

Has had the odd quiet patch, but finished 3rd in the league for tackles inside 50, and put 35 goals on the board. 

Outstanding effort. 

PS: ANB was #1 in the comp for tackles inside 50. Also outstanding.  

19 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

All-Australian team will be announced this Thursday, and while he's unlikely to get a spot in the final 22, surely Kozzy Pickett deserves to be part of the conversation. 

Has had the odd quiet patch, but finished 3rd in the league for tackles inside 50, and put 35 goals on the board. 

Outstanding effort. 

PS: ANB was #1 in the comp for tackles inside 50. Also outstanding.  

I'd say Fritsh would be ahead of Kozzie and ANB for the pocket spot with how many goals he kicked this year. 

Toby Greene has the other pocket spot sewn up for sure 

So if the team is announced on Thursday when does the squad get released? 

5 minutes ago, Gouga said:

So if the team is announced on Thursday when does the squad get released? 

Announced today - that's what they said on access all areas. 

40 man squad gets announced today.

Best 22 announced Thursday. 

Could be a few Dees in the team. 

Max, Clarry, Petracca, Lever all just about certain 

Fritsch, Langdon, Salem, May and co all huge chances as well

I always think they should keep a spot in the AA for a small forward who tackles, terrorises and kicks goals. They are exciting and always one of my favorite players. I am so happy we have a genuine contender in Kossie, he is a great player in great form. His first goal the other night was a beauty and he had a big hand in our comeback kicking 2 more goals and setting up Fritsch with a beautiful kick inside 50. So I thought through all the contenders for that spot.

Dees; Kozzie, Spargo and ANB all good players, Kozzie the X Factor that usually gets the nod in AA selection. Just a note on how good our coaching has been to identify a style of play with these 3 involved and stick fat with them when a lot of us were calling for them to be dropped at times. Looking at the list of other teams, we have a good mix of players and a dangerous forward line.

Port; Butters, Gray and Rozee. No real contender. All good players but injury and Rozee is more a hff

Geelong; Close and Miers, both good players but fringe players in Geelong side so nowhere near AA selection and a concern for Geelong going forward. Think how good Cockatoo Collins is now going at Lions for pennies. Bad list management by Geelong.

Lions; Cameron, Zac Bailey, Coleman and McCarthy. A developing and dangerous lot of smalls the Lions finished top for points for for the H/A season due in no small part to their mix of small forwards, all offering a different set of troubles to backlines. Cameron is the genuine star but not in AA form but could rip a finals series apart. Zac Bailey is a star as well but has played a bit more up the field. Still is top 10 in this category but not AA forward pocket. McCarthy is more in the Toby Green mould and while handy is not AA. Coleman at 21 and 19 games is a coming star of the game, who we can hopefully shut out on Saturday

Dogs'; Weightman. Is a star and will be top 2 or 3 in this list for the next decade. Max already hates him and he will have plenty of mark/goal of the year nominations over the next decade. I think Kozzie is just ahead of him as he's played all year but Weightmans rise has been impressive.

Sydney; Papley. Rarely mentioned in AA talk but surely he tops this list. Is a genuine star and has the best celebrations in the comp. Should be in AA just ahead of Kozzie.

GWS; Green will be AA and is a super star of the comp, top 10 in the league, but not a small forward by my definition. Like McCarthy for Lions or Fritsch for us or Rohan for Geelong is a mid sized forward that plays a different role. Can go in the other pocket.

Essendon; McDonald Tipungwuti. No

Others; Ryan for West Coast is a great player but obviously not this year

Betts for Carlton. He could own the position. The Eddie Betts pocket in the AA side for the small crumbing forward. Another accolade and the naming of another pocket with the Adelaide oval as more decoration to a great career.

I've possibly forgotten someone but I love the position, think it should be recognised in AA lists and offers some of the best and most exciting players in the comp. And we have Kozzie!!!!!!

 

My Prediction -

Locks: Gawn (c), Oliver, Petracca, Lever
Probable: May
Squad Chances: Fritsch, Salem

4 minutes ago, adonski said:

My Prediction -

Locks: Gawn (c), Oliver, Petracca, Lever
Probable: May
Squad Chances: Fritsch, Salem

I don't think they'll pick May, although they should. Weitering or Andrew will get the pick with Lever, Aliir and couple  others.

Interesting if Gawn is starting ruck or on the bench.

Just now, Mickey said:

I don't think they'll pick May, although they should. Weitering or Andrew will get the pick with Lever, Aliir and couple  others.

Interesting if Gawn is starting ruck or on the bench.

Reckon they'll give May a backdated AA for last years robbery

Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Lever are certainties to make the 22. May probably 50/50 - Aliir and Andrews have been outstanding all year as well, and one of those 3 will miss out. Weitering has also been great in a terrible side.

Charlie Cameron will take the small forward spot, but Kossie is a chance to make the squad. Fritsch probably doesn't do enough aside from kicking goals - not a knock on him, but he's probably competing with Greene who has been better. Salem will make the squad but probably wasn't good enough in the second half of the year to make the team. Some good players will miss out.

I reckon it will look something like this:

FB: Lever Andrews Stewart

HB: Rich May Dale

C: Merrett Oliver Macrae

HF: Stringer Hawkins Petracca

FF: Cameron McKay Greene

Fol: Gawn Bontempelli Wines

Int: Miller NicNat Steele Aliir

Goody has got to be coach of the year doesn't he? a team most predicted to win finals finishing with what 17 wins, minor premiership

I'd also nearly pick Max as the AA Captain to be honest, i'd say it's him or Bont 

16 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Interesting if Gawn is starting ruck or on the bench.

I think Gawn deserves to be selected as the starting ruckman more than Naitanui does. Even if it's true that Naitanui is the best tap ruckman, Gawn does a lot more damage on the ground and he impacts the scoreboard far more regularly.

Edited August 23, 20213 yr by Hopeful Demon

4 minutes ago, Hopeful Demon said:

I think Gawn deserves to be selected as the starting ruck more than Naituni does. Even if it's true that Naituni is the best tap ruckman, Gawn does a lot more damage on the ground and he impacts the scoreboard far more regularly.

Agree. I think Gawn is a massive chance to get the AA captain as well which means starting surely. 

9 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Lever are certainties to make the 22. May probably 50/50 - Aliir and Andrews have been outstanding all year as well, and one of those 3 will miss out. Weitering has also been great in a terrible side.

Charlie Cameron will take the small forward spot, but Kossie is a chance to make the squad. Fritsch probably doesn't do enough aside from kicking goals - not a knock on him, but he's probably competing with Greene who has been better. Salem will make the squad but probably wasn't good enough in the second half of the year to make the team. Some good players will miss out.

I reckon it will look something like this:

FB: Lever Andrews Stewart

HB: Rich May Dale

C: Merrett Oliver Macrae

HF: Stringer Hawkins Petracca

FF: Cameron McKay Greene

Fol: Gawn Bontempelli Wines

Int: Miller NicNat Steele Aliir

I like your side but I don't think Cameron is in AA form. I think Papley should get the nod. Apart from the fact he has had a great year, you probably have to put a Sydney Swan player in and Parker, Mills, Heeney and maybe Tom Hickey come into consideration and may make the squad but I don't think any of those will make the team and while Papley may not make it I think they'll go for a second full forward in the spot rather than Cameron. I spose we'll see.

7 minutes ago, Hopeful Demon said:

I think Gawn deserves to be selected as the starting ruckman more than Naitanui does. Even if it's true that Naitanui is the best tap ruckman, Gawn does a lot more damage on the ground and he impacts the scoreboard far more regularly.

Nic Nat had the fourth most clearances this year. I think his impact has been enormous. Gawn is a much better mark but has only kicked 11 goals to Nic Nat's 3.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Nic Nat as the starting ruck.

9 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Nic Nat had the fourth most clearances this year. I think his impact has been enormous. Gawn is a much better mark but has only kicked 11 goals to Nic Nat's 3.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Nic Nat as the starting ruck.

Yep, unfortunately I think Nicnat will be the starting ruck.

34 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Lever are certainties to make the 22. May probably 50/50 - Aliir and Andrews have been outstanding all year as well, and one of those 3 will miss out. Weitering has also been great in a terrible side.

Charlie Cameron will take the small forward spot, but Kossie is a chance to make the squad. Fritsch probably doesn't do enough aside from kicking goals - not a knock on him, but he's probably competing with Greene who has been better. Salem will make the squad but probably wasn't good enough in the second half of the year to make the team. Some good players will miss out.

I reckon it will look something like this:

FB: Lever Andrews Stewart

HB: Rich May Dale

C: Merrett Oliver Macrae

HF: Stringer Hawkins Petracca

FF: Cameron McKay Greene

Fol: Gawn Bontempelli Wines

Int: Miller NicNat Steele Aliir

Agree with this team apart from these changes.

Out: Andrews, In: Weitering

Nicnat and Gawn to be swapped (I think Nicnat will get the nod)

Bont will probably be made C

57 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Lever are certainties to make the 22. May probably 50/50 - Aliir and Andrews have been outstanding all year as well, and one of those 3 will miss out. Weitering has also been great in a terrible side.

Charlie Cameron will take the small forward spot, but Kossie is a chance to make the squad. Fritsch probably doesn't do enough aside from kicking goals - not a knock on him, but he's probably competing with Greene who has been better. Salem will make the squad but probably wasn't good enough in the second half of the year to make the team. Some good players will miss out.

I reckon it will look something like this:

FB: Lever Andrews Stewart

HB: Rich May Dale

C: Merrett Oliver Macrae

HF: Stringer Hawkins Petracca

FF: Cameron McKay Greene

Fol: Gawn Bontempelli Wines

Int: Miller NicNat Steele Aliir

Parish will be ahead of Miller or Steele, rightly or wrongly.