TRAINING: Monday 22nd February 2021

[picket fence 15,552]

1 hour ago, Vagg said:

Clearly, he will need to set his alarm clock for much earlier in future.  Simply not good enough to let us down like that!  he should give himself a good slap!

Uncle Bitter suggested a Jolly good flogging, but Romsey is so far away AND there is the inherent danger of Uncle's Moat and Bridge to negotiate!!

[picket fence 15,552]

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

would anyone care here if Laurie and Bowey played round 1 ahead of melksham, hibberd, Jetta etc?

 

Add Fraser "THE FREAK" Rosman and I'm in BIG TIME!!

[dworship 3,342]

9 hours ago, picket fence said:

I would love to say, that training was the best I've seen EVER!!!

I would love to say that Angus Young from ACDC TRAINED THE HOUSE DOWN and could be added to our list!

I would love to say that the weather was perfect 

BUT ALAS NONE OF IT WOULD BE TRUE

Point number 1 the only players training were the core defence unit. More on that in a minute?

Point number 2 Sorry for misleading you, but if Jayden Hunt resplendent with long hair under a school type hat ain't a dead ringer for Angus Young of ACDC Then he's darn close enough to be his twin?

Piont 3 Typical Casey weather Sleet, Wind, Rain, Sunshine tending to Mercury like temperatures all within an hour and a half!?

Training report. Arrived at ground to see quite a few but not packed car park at Casey at 9.40

Whether for COVID or other reasons the only players training were the defensive unit. This consisted of Lever, May, Smith, Nev, Petty, Rivers, HUNT, and BOWEY. Hibbo was also a no show. Tomlinson's only involvement was taking pot shots from 25 meters into a wheelie bin. For what reasons I couldn't say, he didn't look injured but saw him in conversation with Alan Richardson. The session was lead by Chocko Williams. I highlighted both Jayden Hunt and Jake Bowey as I'm interested in the likely impact both would have as defenders? I thought Hunt looked good to very good last year in attack and I would have thought Bowey's skill set would see him potentially taking a forward like role.

The drills were interesting in that it is my feeling that this was not a high intensity session and could almost be as laid back as AFL Training gets.

Drill A Involved the options of running the ball out in spread and finding a target through creation of space. The added element though seemed to be the new "Stand the Mark" rule which will really test all players given that the moment a mark or free kick is paid you cannot move at all. Its as if your boots are superglued to the turf and any minor movement will see players getting pinged left right and centre. I think it is a shocking rule and I can see games being won and lost with it. The players mentioned trained ok but as iterated it was not a high intensity drill.

Drill B Involved players with backs to other player 30-40 mts away throwing or bouncing the ball and depending on its landing players turned quickly right or left footed to spear a pass to either leading or stationary target. Again a few excellent passes and a few MEH!

Drill C Players taking ball and having pot shots on goal

That's about it except for one slightly strange thing. At one stage Clarry ventured out from rooms with ???? Staffer maybe. walking around the boundary line looking at his phone, Music pod whatever stopping once or twice then heading back into rooms. I could speculate many other players may have been indoors doing a weights session but who knows?? Mitch Brown also appeared early and seemed to be doing some rehab work with Staffer for about 15-20 mins.

I sincerely hope things step up from here and further, someone can find out if the Richmond or other practice match is on when, as even if a "'closed session" its easy to see through the fence!

P.S If Jayden Hunt can play guitar half as good as Angus Young, then his career at end of footy days seems assured!

Cheers PF

Picket wasn't the only Demonlander there this morning. Mrs DW , myself and a friend and avid Demons watcher (who doesn't post on here), also attended. I will get the most important news out of the way first. Our friend arrived just after 9am and Maxy was walking the boundary with Langdon . Max spoke to him saying we were there on the wrong day that there was no combined training today. They would be doing only short stints and it was a skills and weights session and that we should have come tomorrow. That being the case I think that indicates there will be some kind of practice match later in the week.

Picket has covered most of what we saw brilliantly, I have only a couple of small additions.

Rehab: Doing high knee lifts; Vanders. Trying get balls in wheelie bins; Hibbo, Hore (only by handball) & Tomlinson.

PF mentioned Clayton walking the boundary with someone, I can confirm it was JJ. He has put on some serious muscle and the photo gallery from today doesn't do him justice. He looks like a larger Jack Viney.

Having mentioned the "photo gallery" my mate and I don't believe a word of the "early start" blurb. We believe the Mids and Forwards groups came out after we left around 1130. We don't know why it was written up the way it was.

 

The defensive group described by Picket also included Lockhart and Deakyn Smith. Regarding Deakyn, my friend has been impressed with what he has seen of him previously in match sim, so it appears there is now some serious competition for Lords role; Nev, Smith, Bowey and Lockhart.

 

Finally a question for PF, you said "the new Stand the Mark rule which will really test all players given that the moment a mark or free kick is paid you cannot move at all". This isn't correct, the Umpire must command STAND and indicate this to a player and then they cannot move. My question is, did you hear anyone shouting this? I couldn't but I was at the other end of the ground during these drills.

 

PS. Keep up the great work Picket it's been great reporting.

 

 

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[demon3165 2,085]

My understanding of this rule is you can jump up and down but cannot move sideways off the mark, the way whiskers keeps coming up with rule changes soon they will be wearing blow up suits so they don't get hurt and will no touchies with each other god netball will be rougher than this game. 

[Cyclops 454]

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

My understanding of this rule is you can jump up and down but cannot move sideways off the mark, the way whiskers keeps coming up with rule changes soon they will be wearing blow up suits so they don't get hurt and will no touchies with each other god netball will be rougher than this game. 

Can you move a metre back from the mark and then sideways?

[Sunnydee 128]

Cheers for the reports guys! 
 

Am starting to get excited as the season edges closer! 
 

Keen to see Rosman play. Sounds like he has some real X factor. Obviously he will take time but looks an athlete! 
 

Bring on the season!! 

[dworship 3,342]

1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

My understanding of this rule is you can jump up and down but cannot move sideways off the mark, the way whiskers keeps coming up with rule changes soon they will be wearing blow up suits so they don't get hurt and will no touchies with each other god netball will be rougher than this game. 

Really, get off this thread it's a TRAINING thread. Please start a thread of your own called WHINGERS you will have plenty of company. Oh and if your going to post something try and be factual. Your understanding of the rule is ...... pretty limited. There is a thread called  Manning the Mark Rule Change.

That's me being nice.

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[dworship 3,342]

22 minutes ago, Cyclops said:

Can you move a metre back from the mark and then sideways?

No and maybe go read some of the other things on this forum and you might have half a clue.

[Demons1858 1,663]

11 hours ago, DubDee said:

I reckon Bowey could well line up in our defensive 7 in the early rounds.  we need speed, kicking skills and decision making and he seems to have those

But shirley Hunt plays fwd. especially with Melk and others injured

Yes but can he defend ...

[58er 5,670]

11 hours ago, Dr.D said:

would anyone care here if Laurie and Bowey played round 1 ahead of melksham, hibberd, Jetta etc?

 

Not in the least except Hibbo on last season deserves his spot. But is he injured or what  in 2021.?

Add  Rosman as he is ready in size build muscle speed and ability I believe to take the other wing opposite Langers.

Reckon only ONE of Bowey or Laurie will get nod for around 1 and maybe Laurie  up forward will get the nod as we have enough good defenders at this stage.

[buck_nekkid 5,553]

12 hours ago, John Demonic said:

A piglet?

That’s why Browne reported a hammy!

[BW511 2,287]

14 hours ago, Dr.D said:

would anyone care here if Laurie and Bowey played round 1 ahead of melksham, hibberd, Jetta etc?

 

Not me, in fact I would encourage it

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

10 hours ago, dworship said:

Picket wasn't the only Demonlander there this morning. Mrs DW , myself and a friend and avid Demons watcher (who doesn't post on here), also attended. I will get the most important news out of the way first. 

...

Rehab: Doing high knee lifts; Vanders. Trying get balls in wheelie bins;

 

 

 

Am I the only one that had a schoolboy humour visual moment when reading this?

 

[Roger Mellie 3,601]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

That’s why Browne reported a hammy!

Boom - tish!

[Winners at last 4,848]

1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

Boom - tish!

 

2 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

That’s why Browne reported a hammy!

I think there should be a rule in this forum that at the start of the post like this the words "dad joke alert"  be inserted !!! 

P.S. That was a quality dad joke!! 

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[dee-tox 4,829]

4 hours ago, 58er said:

 

Add  Rosman as he is ready in size build muscle speed and ability I believe to take the other wing opposite Langers.

 

This is a big call! What have trackwatchers seen that justifies this?

Just playing devil's advocate, he was drafted on virtually no exposed TAC Cup form although he apparently did well in pre-season practice matches leading up to the cancelled competition.

What we know is he is an amazing athlete, that he is decent overhead and has an awkward kicking action. What other traits make him a round one starter?

I sometimes wonder if fans forget how difficult it is for anyone, let alone teenagers, to make that transition from underage football to the big time...

 

[Matt Demon 1,388]

For those making thr trek out to Casey I think training will be Tuesday and Thursday from now on.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

24 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

For those making thr trek out to Casey I think training will be Tuesday and Thursday from now on.

How do we know you're not a disinformation bot coming out of somewhere like Russia or China?

[dworship 3,342]

1 hour ago, Matt Demon said:

For those making thr trek out to Casey I think training will be Tuesday and Thursday from now on.

You're guessing aren't you? It's more likely the recent changes are driven by potential practice matches.

[Tarax Club 3,187]

17 hours ago, picket fence said:

Uncle Bitter suggested a Jolly good flogging, but Romsey is so far away AND there is the inherent danger of Uncle's Moat and Bridge to negotiate!!

Just keep a sharp lookout for the trolls and wear your face mask. All will be well.

Edited February 23, 2021 by Tarax Club
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[Matt Demon 1,388]

24 minutes ago, dworship said:

You're guessing aren't you? It's more likely the recent changes are driven by potential practice matches.

I haven't heard anything from the club but every year when games roll around the training schedule changes. I'm just trying to look out for ppl who want to drive out to Casey. 

[demon3165 2,085]

14 hours ago, dworship said:

Really, get off this thread it's a TRAINING thread. Please start a thread of your own called WHINGERS you will have plenty of company. Oh and if your going to post something try and be factual. Your understanding of the rule is ...... pretty limited. There is a thread called  Manning the Mark Rule Change.

That's me being nice.

Well maybe you should understand the rule that would be a start before you post and have pot shots,

I. The subject was being discussed in the thread.

2. You are allowed to move on the mark Jumping up and down is allowed you cannot encroach or move sideways or any other movement.

AFL website gee maybe they have not spoken to you that's being nice.

The Commission has accepted the following game adjustments ahead of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season:

1 / A maximum of 75 total player interchanges per match
Rotations will decrease from 90 per match in 2020 to 75 per match in 2021. Each team will continue to be permitted four interchange players.

2 / Player Standing The Mark
The defending Player will only be permitted minimal lateral movement on The Mark. If the defending player moves off The Mark in any direction prior to "Play On" being called, a 50-metre penalty will apply. The defensive team is unable to substitute the Player on The Mark.

3 / Location of The Mark at Kick Ins
The Mark shall be set at 15 metres from the centre of the Kick-Off Line towards the centre of the ground at Kick Ins. This was previously set at 10 metres.

[daisycutter 28,684]

haven't seen a definition of "minimal lateral movement"

what is so hard about defining it more precisely?

[old dee 22,982]

46 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

haven't seen a definition of "minimal lateral movement"

what is so hard about defining it more precisely?

On a good day it is a guess dc. Hard to define guess work.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

 

2 / Player Standing The Mark
The defending Player will only be permitted minimal lateral movement on The Mark. If the defending player moves off The Mark in any direction prior to "Play On" being called, a 50-metre penalty will apply. The defensive team is unable to substitute the Player on The Mark.

 

I feel for the umpires. How can they be expected to intepret two contradictory statements? How does "minimal lateral movement" not contradict the next line which (in effect) says a defending player moving off the mark in any direction will lead to a 50-metre penalty?