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48 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It could be what they asked for and being GF'ists requests get granted.  And in a way it doesn't matter when they play there they will win.

Just like Richmond had a long run of games at the G in the latter rounds in recent years.  Being GF or premiers helps persuade the AFL on numerous fixture benefits.

On the positve side for us, seven of our first 9 games are in Melbourne (6 at the G, of which 5 are Home games, and 1 is at Marvel).  I'm guessing lots of early Melbourne games is what the club asked for to get fans attending games (gate revenue) and to sell memberships in the early rounds.  That early revenue will be important to us.

It's often who you play in those home games.

Having Freo then say Suns  GWS then Crows  Would not  be a membership selling draw BUT mst assist in getting crowds vs Big Vic Clubs  therafter.

But having Gerlong Tigers and Blues early on can boost membership figures as long as we are not being thrashed and showing form and wins, as more fans go to those games!

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11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

When did Carlton last make finals?

2013.

They have the longest finals drought outside of Gold Coast.

On their website they've said they had an average free-to-air audience in 2020 of nearly 600,000. No idea what that figure is for us but will be the reason they get two Thursday nights to open the year.

There is no fairness, though, in them only having 5 interstate trips and the remaining 17 games all in Melbourne.

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Carlton v Rich has been a terrible site over the last how ever many years, I don't know why they continue with it.

 

Other than that Cairns is still a possibility, what we've seen in Sydney this week shows us that this thing can turn very quickly again and teams will have to get out of dodge quickly to other venues.

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2 hours ago, 58er said:

Got nothing to do with it !!!

If  you perform in a year like 2018 then you deserve Friday night and other FTA opportunities.

Shouldnt be penalised forever we also  have finished ahead of many teams in 2017 and 2020.

We got Friday night games in 2019 on the back of finals. One of them against Sydney in 2019 was considered one of the worst games of the season.

In the original 2020 fixture before COVID hit we received 3 Friday night games, even on the back of a terrible season.

We were also awarded a prime time Thursday night game against Port this year on the back of a couple of promising weeks in the NSW hub, and proceeded to stuff it up badly...and I mean really badly and spoilt the viewing of everyone bar a Port supporter.

The AFL likely hasn't forgotten about that debacle when fixturing the first 6 weeks. 

The bottom line is we can't be trusted on the big stage - by our supporters, the general TV viewer and the networks.

Sorry if that sounds harsh.

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19 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Importantly we haven't been shafted by the AFL in terms of the home games against Richmond and Collingwood. 

These are huge earners for the club, as the home side.  Post covid ( let's hope it has been suppressed by then) it is important that we get back on our feet financially. 

It's a real shame AFL didn't take the opportunity to split these so we get one a year instead of both every two years which is so much harder to manage from a cashflow point of view.

It's a mixed blessing getting both next year which is looking very much like crowds will still have to be limited so while we get them next year they will be worth a lot less. But of course better than losing them all together which was also quite possible given the way the AFL treats us. 

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Three consecutive home games  for Geelong at GMHBA Stadium rounds 21, 22 and 23 before the finals against the Dees , Saints and Giants.

What a set up. Well done AFL you are so Sly......... You are lower than a  pregnant Snake ! 

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5 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

Three consecutive home games  for Geelong at GMHBA Stadium rounds 21, 22 and 23 before the finals against the Dees , Saints and Giants.

What a set up. Well done AFL you are so Sly......... You are lower than a  pregnant Snake ! 

I prefer a "a snakes belly in a wagon rut"

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5 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

2013.

They have the longest finals drought outside of Gold Coast.

On their website they've said they had an average free-to-air audience in 2020 of nearly 600,000. No idea what that figure is for us but will be the reason they get two Thursday nights to open the year.

There is no fairness, though, in them only having 5 interstate trips and the remaining 17 games all in Melbourne.

They were gifted a spot in the finals that year because of Essendrug's suspension

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Maybe I missed it but it doesn't look like there will be another one of those so called 'football frenzies', despite one being mooted. No sign of any teams having two or three game road trips either. 

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2 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Maybe I missed it but it doesn't look like there will be another one of those so called 'football frenzies', despite one being mooted. No sign of any teams having two or three game road trips either. 

So is the fixture real???

is the AFL planning on turning the fixture on its head again? Just waiting for a couple of COVID cases and boom.....Dees hub in Cairns for 3 months  

If it seems to good to be true it probably is!!!

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9 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

So is the fixture real???

is the AFL planning on turning the fixture on its head again? Just waiting for a couple of COVID cases and boom.....Dees hub in Cairns for 3 months  

If it seems to good to be true it probably is!!!

I think it all depends on keeping rates of infection low as i don't think a vaccine roll-out will be sufficiently progressed to make a difference for this year. If there's a major outbreak, particularly in Melbourne, then it'll be hubs and a revised fixture I reckon.

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10 hours ago, Gunna’s said:

So is the fixture real???

is the AFL planning on turning the fixture on its head again? Just waiting for a couple of COVID cases and boom.....Dees hub in Cairns for 3 months  

If it seems to good to be true it probably is!!!

Would be a shame if that turned out to be the case Gunna as it looks like a good fixture for us. As long as our international borders are secure in the short to medium term I think we'll be ok. They pretty much had the covid situation under control domestically until this issue with the airline crew driver contracting it. So much for NSW being the gold standard in covid prevention as they were also responsible for letting the german mother and daughter board a local flight to Melbourne undetected. 

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There will be covid outbreaks.  Probably on the East Coast so a 'footy frenzy' may depend on how 'trigger-happy' state premiers are in closing borders.  Right now they are very twitchy so it is likely we will see rescheduling of some sort.  Hopefully, it is just location rather than wholesale change to the fixture.

And, if there needs to be a hub it will be in Victoria so (selfishly) we can still get to see games. 

And while I'm talking of 2021; may you all enjoy this festive season, say goodbye to a  horrid 2020 and look forward to good health and an exciting and successful year for our beloved Demons.  🎄🥂🍾

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On 12/21/2020 at 7:40 PM, John Demonic said:

Just to nitpick, but I'd rather we play Sydney at the SCG than the MCG :laugh:. They really get up for their away games against us. Bad memories.

Of recent years they've been as bad at the SCG, as we've been on the MCG.

fair comment. I only have 1 memory of beating the Swans at the G. 1987 first semi final .

They have been far superior to us over recent times, but nonethelss they sure play the G well. 

Its just avoiding the travl to the SCG thats a bonus probably.

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On 12/21/2020 at 7:40 PM, John Demonic said:

Just to nitpick, but I'd rather we play Sydney at the SCG than the MCG :laugh:. They really get up for their away games against us. Bad memories.

Of recent years they've been as bad at the SCG, as we've been on the MCG.

Totally agree. Would rather play them at the SCG. 

Sydney have given us sorts of problems over the years, especially at the MCG and we've beaten them just twice since 2006...Twice!!

We've beaten them once at the MCG between 2002 - 2020.

2018 they cost us a top 4 spot when we lost to them at the G.

2019 they beats us by 9 goals in that horrid Friday night game despite them being horribly out of form.

2020 they cost us a top 8 spot.

Does Longmire have a special desire to beat Melbourne more than any other side?? You would think so given they always rise to the occasion against us.

 

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On 12/22/2020 at 1:03 PM, nosoupforme said:

Three consecutive home games  for Geelong at GMHBA Stadium rounds 21, 22 and 23 before the finals against the Dees , Saints and Giants.

 

On 12/22/2020 at 1:09 PM, Pickett2Jackson said:

Looked after every single season.

Hopefully placating them in preparation for denying them a home final. 

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6 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Hopefully placating them in preparation for denying them a home final. 

And P2J if the Cats slide as some predict then these 3 teams would be the first taking their place!

easch one could nail the Cats coffin week by week at their fortress and the AFL would look good I would  presume.

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12 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Totally agree. Would rather play them at the SCG. 

Sydney have given us sorts of problems over the years, especially at the MCG and we've beaten them just twice since 2006...Twice!!

We've beaten them once at the MCG between 2002 - 2020.

2018 they cost us a top 4 spot when we lost to them at the G.

2019 they beats us by 9 goals in that horrid Friday night game despite them being horribly out of form.

2020 they cost us a top 8 spot.

Does Longmire have a special desire to beat Melbourne more than any other side?? You would think so given they always rise to the occasion against us.

 

No JL doesn't but what he brings is an organised game plan of a decades success snd with young players who stick to it. ( rather like in Cairns and with Freo foing the same thing) against our 
mo game plan and disjointed vs wind approach which resulted in disaster.

They don't (Swans) build up fir us they know if they can get good use of theball their plan will outshine our haphazard and inconsistent game plan and give success, year after year, in fact from 2006 which nearly every year they have made Finsls snd we have once!!!!

It's not rocket science BBP.

 

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On 12/22/2020 at 10:19 AM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We got Friday night games in 2019 on the back of finals. One of them against Sydney in 2019 was considered one of the worst games of the season.

In the original 2020 fixture before COVID hit we received 3 Friday night games, even on the back of a terrible season.

We were also awarded a prime time Thursday night game against Port this year on the back of a couple of promising weeks in the NSW hub, and proceeded to stuff it up badly...and I mean really badly and spoilt the viewing of everyone bar a Port supporter.

The AFL likely hasn't forgotten about that debacle when fixturing the first 6 weeks. 

The bottom line is we can't be trusted on the big stage - by our supporters, the general TV viewer and the networks.

Sorry if that sounds harsh.

Given our chance and we stuffed it up vs Port and I had to sit through every miserable moment!!

But win 3/3 or 4/2 in The  first 6 rounds and beat say GWS and Cats then Frid night/s May be back on the agenda!!

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2 hours ago, 58er said:

And P2J if the Cats slide as some predict then these 3 teams would be the first taking their place!

easch one could nail the Cats coffin week by week at their fortress and the AFL would look good I would  presume.

Every year people predict the demise of the Cats only to be proven wrong.

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43 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Every year people predict the demise of the Cats only to be proven wrong.

Its like the stock market or property market. There will be a downturn but difficult to predict exactly when but we will eventually be proven right.

They’ve gone all in for 2021 so I expect them to play finals. 2022 and beyond and I reckon even the most optimistic Geelong supporter will be worried.

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Personally I hate Friday night games always a rush, no parking and a late night home after walking back into the city to pick up the car and driving back to Doreen.!!!! 

Merry Xmas all on Demonland,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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