Re Sam's voting.

• Didn't play rounds 1 to 4.
• 134 votes rounds 5 to 12
• 38 votes rounds 13 to 18

3 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Viney finishing 3rd is not a good sign for MFC

give it a rest picket. Puss poor comment. Sledging a player and the club in 10 words. 

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by binman

Viney finishing 3rd is not a good sign for picket! Getting it wrong too often to be taken seriously!

29 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Very surprised Viney finished so high and especially ahead of Oliver and Langdon. 

Agree

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by picket fence

For those wanting Jack out the door yet again he has finished in the top 10 of the B & F and as much as he frustrates me with his repeated flaws he is still in the top 3 of the club. I know he has a contract before him and cannot see Geelong who never pay overs matching it.

I didn't think him weird, he explained every time he gets on stage he goes blank. Cut him some slack I bet neither he nor his wife are getting lots of sleep at the moment. he stays!

22 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

Weid is top 10.....?

 

6 minutes ago, Lefty said:

?
Perhaps Goodwin & the Footy Department really aren’t the right guys. 

Could be over-inflating his price for a trade. 

Just now, picket fence said:

You are not the only one??

He did have a few brilliant games. He was BoG against Eagles, was very good against the Saints, and probably a few others I’m forgetting. He has his limitations but he clearly always follows the coaches direction.

8 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Viney finishing 3rd is not a good sign for picket! Getting it wrong too often to be taken seriously!

I think it says more who rate him highly than any opinion I might have

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by picket fence

Points per game finish:

385 – Christian Petracca (17) 22.64
362 – Steven May (17) 21.29
311 – Jack Viney (16) 19.43
296 – Ed Langdon (17) 17.41
291 – Clayton Oliver (17) 17.11 

234 - Max Gawn (14) 16.71
186 – Angus Brayshaw  (14) 13.28
172 – Sam Weideman (13) 13.23
79 – Luke Jackson (6) 13.16
208 – Christian Salem (16) 13

179 – Michael Hibberd (14) 12.78
94 – Trent Rivers (9) 10.44
80 – Charlie Spargo (8) 10
165 – Jake Lever (17) 9.70
154 – Bayley Fritsch (16) 9.62

102 – Kysaiah Pickett (14) 7.28
92 – Adam Tomlinson (13) 7.07
119 – Jake Melksham (17) 7
90 – Aaron vandenBerg (13) 6.92
72 – Mitch Hannan (13) 5.53

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by Trisul

Reading this thread I understand why Dan Andrews has a 62% approval rating for the way he's handled the pandemic.

Melksham should be embarrassed finishing that low.  Outshone by so many younger less experienced teammates.  Terrible season from him. 

2 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

Reading this thread I understand why Dan Andrews has a 62% approval rating for the way he's handled the pandemic.

Which pandemic is that? The one your boy Carlson thinks donnie has done such a bang up job dealing with?

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Melksham should be embarrassed finishing that low.  Outshone by so many younger less experienced teammates.  Terrible season from him. 

But he was Captain in one game!! SURELY whoever thinks that this is satisfactory needs a reality check

26 minutes ago, Deeminion said:

 

Could be over-inflating his price for a trade. 

Anyone who thinks J.V Had a better season than Clayton Oliver and Ed Langdon is fantasy land stuff. Yes played some solid games but not better than these two. Congrats Tracc and Steven May !

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by picket fence

I thought that Maysie spoke quite well  and is a very humble person and was gracious . One part of his speech said that he thought  he was privileged  to finish so close to Christian such was his domination. 

 Well said Steven May you are a deserved winner youself and hope you go one better in 2021.  You are a champion person.

On 9/22/2020 at 10:45 AM, old dee said:

Probably just me but I find B and F awards in a failure year of little interest. It is probably a big deal for the players but as a supporter it is like celebrating mediocrity for me. Whoever wins it is no doubt a good player in the scheme of things, just does not work for me. 

OD you are Salty at best and unappreciative at worst 

The award winners are usually the ones that have busted themselves and trained and pre seasoned more diligently than  others and ream games sort out these players for mostly very well rewarded honours.

At what  stage would you call off No Finals ?

Only GF appearance. Doesn't work that way.

Yes you don't  have to turn online etc if you are not interested but FYI Trac won as he has deserved with one of the most rewarding and consistent A grade efforts this season playing some of the best footy a Demon  has this Century!

You would be the sort  of boss unless you made $2 billion profit you would cancel bonuses !!

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Few people are saying this was actually held last night as the players left the hub this morning. Truth or BS?

 

May said after his speech , “Have a good day everybody “ as he left the lectern. 
it was a stitched up production for sure . Bartlett appeared to be talking from the naughty corner 

12 minutes ago, Trisul said:

Points per game finish:

385 – Christian Petracca (17) 22.64
362 – Steven May (17) 21.29
311 – Jack Viney (16) 19.43
296 – Ed Langdon (17) 17.41
291 – Clayton Oliver (17) 17.11 

234 - Max Gawn (14) 16.71
186 – Angus Brayshaw  (14) 13.28
172 – Sam Weideman (13) 13.23
79 – Luke Jackson (6) 13.16
208 – Christian Salem (16) 13

179 – Michael Hibberd (14) 12.78
94 – Trent Rivers (9) 10.44
80 – Charlie Spargo (8) 10
165 – Jake Lever (17) 9.70
154 – Bayley Fritsch (16) 9.62

102 – Kysaiah Pickett (14) 7.28
92 – Adam Tomlinson (13) 7.07
119 – Jake Melksham (17) 7
90 – Aaron vandenBerg (13) 6.92
72 – Mitch Hannan (13) 5.53

Maximum points per game is 40 (4 coaches give each player a score out of 10), so  a 20 average would be the "pass" mark. Only Tracc and May bettered an average of 20. Probably fair enough.  The right players finished in the top 6.  I could quibble marginally about the order - I felt Oliver was better than Viney and Langdon and Gawny was down a bit on the last two seasons, and missed 3 games as well but I think those 6 players were significantly better than anyone else.

Brayshaw probably the biggest surprise for me.

 

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Anyone who thinks J.V Had a better season than Clayton Oliver and Ed Langdon is fantasy land stuff. Yes played some solid games but not better than these two. Congrats Tracc and Steven May !

Indeed , no way Viney deserved being rated higher than those two 

not as bid a surprise as his 2018 Brownlow effort .

4 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

Brayshaw probably the biggest surprise for me

 

24 minutes ago, Trisul said:

Points per game finish:

385 – Christian Petracca (17) 22.64
362 – Steven May (17) 21.29
311 – Jack Viney (16) 19.43
296 – Ed Langdon (17) 17.41
291 – Clayton Oliver (17) 17.11 

234 - Max Gawn (14) 16.71
186 – Angus Brayshaw  (14) 13.28
172 – Sam Weideman (13) 13.23
79 – Luke Jackson (6) 13.16
208 – Christian Salem (16) 13

179 – Michael Hibberd (14) 12.78
94 – Trent Rivers (9) 10.44
80 – Charlie Spargo (8) 10
165 – Jake Lever (17) 9.70
154 – Bayley Fritsch (16) 9.62

102 – Kysaiah Pickett (14) 7.28
92 – Adam Tomlinson (13) 7.07
119 – Jake Melksham (17) 7
90 – Aaron vandenBerg (13) 6.92
72 – Mitch Hannan (13) 5.53

The last 3 Jake AvB and Mitch are an embarrassment to themselves and the Club 

That's exactly why we had such low scores and Forward  pressure As when the good players Didn't star or use the ball well like in Csirns also add Harmes thsts one reason why our forward line was well below par.

TIME TO FIRGET 2018 as donate pDt their best and we missed out trying Bedford and Dunkley and Jordan and don't know if they are a good!

Dunkley is unlucky but lists are tight.

Thsnking  Josh snd Corey Wagner fir full effort Plus Funks and all the best fir future.

Melksham, Tom McDonald, Lever and Tomlinson all experienced players all on good money all under delivering and costing us big time. 

I noticed that Mahoney didn't present any of the awards.  Was he even there?

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

So first off, big congrats to Petracca. Outstanding year from him and he still has more levels to go to, I really hope he reaches his ceiling. If he does, he could be one of the best, if not THE BEST player in the league. 

Secondly congrats to May, he had a diabolical 2019 which was largely his own fault. He owned his mistakes, and sought to rectifying it. 2020 was his best season ever and it can show how much of a difference a proper, professional pre-season can make.

Thirdly congrats to Langdon, he’s been a fantastic recruit and he’ll get better. Coming to a new club can be tough to jump straight in and make an impact. He’s done that. Well done to him and well done to the club for getting him. 

Finally congrats to Oliver and Viney, both have been regular top 5 B&F places/winners. That they are there again is a credit to them, no matter what your personal opinion of either of them. 

On that last part with Viney finishing 3rd. Yes it is a surprise to me as well, I would’ve definitely had Oliver above him, but what this also tells me is that there are things/roles in the game that we don’t see. I hope he stays, if Jones retires we will be losing a true Red and Blue warrior, to lose Viney as well would hurt our culture. 
 

On a negative, seeing Melksham finish so low annoys me because he underperformed for almost the entire year but somehow managed to keep his spot (and even captain the club!!!). Extremely poor year from him but got free pass after free pass. I hope he gets given a rocket up his bum over the off season. 

49 minutes ago, Older demon said:

For those wanting Jack out the door yet again he has finished in the top 10 of the B & F and as much as he frustrates me with his repeated flaws he is still in the top 3 of the club. I know he has a contract before him and cannot see Geelong who never pay overs matching it.

I didn't think him weird, he explained every time he gets on stage he goes blank. Cut him some slack I bet neither he nor his wife are getting lots of sleep at the moment. he stays!

So every time he gets on stage he goes blank, he has said this? This reflects my understanding on why he is seen as a leader in how he plays and not a natural leader who motivates in game day. He has poor communication skills and doesn’t know how to communicate during games. He is a follow me leader, but that’s not enough to be a captain.