Delist

Troy Chaplin - Backline coach

Justin Plapp - Midfield coach

Ben Matthews - Stoppage and contest coach

Josh Mahoney - Direct of Football Operations/Football Manager

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Time for a clean out of the dead wood.

  On 20/09/2020 at 13:51, Supreme_Demon said:

Delist

Troy Chaplin - Backline coach

Justin Plapp - Midfield coach

Ben Matthews - Stoppage and contest coach

Josh Mahoney - Direct of Football Operations/Football Manager

‐----‐-------‐-----------------------------

Time for a clean out of the dead wood.

all of that

player cuts will depend a lot up list sizes, but of those out of contract, i'd presume the following will go:

• aaron neitschke (at the least downgrade to rookie list)
• austin bradtke
• corey wagner
• harley bennell (pending investigation)
• josh wagner
• kade chandler
• kyle dunkley
• oscar mcdonald
• toby bedford

 

Jeepers, people are suggesting a lot of changes. 10 is a lot to go off your primary list at this stage in our evolution. Possible, I guess.

Edited September 20, 20204 yr by A F

  On 20/09/2020 at 14:16, A F said:

Jeepers, people are suggesting a lot of changes. 10 is a lot to go off your primary list at this stage in our evolution. Possible, I guess.

List sizes will be cut

  On 20/09/2020 at 15:06, Elegt said:

List sizes will be cut

Quite possibly, although I had thought they'd done a bit of a back pedal on this. Anyway, we'll see.

Edited September 20, 20204 yr by A F

Hey swampthing. Has any team ever jettisoned two sets of brothers in the one off-season? 

  On 20/09/2020 at 14:16, A F said:

Jeepers, people are suggesting a lot of changes. 10 is a lot to go off your primary list at this stage in our evolution. Possible, I guess.

It's not actually that much Adam if you look at the averages over the years. That said, if we're debating the future of Hunt then we're a long way ahead of when Newton was someone to discuss. 

In a season without the benefit of vfl games I doubt Kade Chandler would be delisted 

I would delist both Wagner's and both McDonald's.

 

  On 20/09/2020 at 12:45, wizardinoz said:

Re sign Smith? Well in that case l won't be paying his wages next season. The guy is clearly not up to it. No more than 5 possessions in all his games this year is not good enough. And don't suggest he is a good forward because he's been tried there before & done SFA.

When W ? And how many times ? Forward prey tell 

  On 20/09/2020 at 14:09, whatwhatsaywhat said:

all of that

player cuts will depend a lot up list sizes, but of those out of contract, i'd presume the following will go:

• aaron neitschke (at the least downgrade to rookie list)
• austin bradtke
• corey wagner
• harley bennell (pending investigation)
• josh wagner
• kade chandler
• kyle dunkley
• oscar mcdonald
• toby bedford

 

Agree on your Coach  list W. Absolutely needed.

i would keep Toby and delist Hore, and Also save Harley in spite of his misdemeanour.

Hannan needs to go

  On 20/09/2020 at 18:12, Wrecker45 said:

In a season without the benefit of vfl games I doubt Kade Chandler would be delisted 

I would delist both Wagner's and both McDonald's.

 

Well it hasn't stopped North, Bombers, and Port delisting kids without any VFL games. 

He'll get cut.

Delist

Oscar McDonald 

Josh Wagner

Corey Wagner

Kyle Dunkley

Kade Chandler

Trade 

Tom McDonald

Brayden Preuss (if he could yield a decent pick)

Retire 

Jetta

KK

Re-sign

Petty

Hore

Fritsch 

Hunt

Viney

Rookie changes

Lockhart (upgrade)

Nietschke (downgrade)

Smith (downgrade)

Last chance

Spargo

Hannan

Edited September 20, 20204 yr by Radar Detector

  On 20/09/2020 at 15:27, Skuit said:

Hey swampthing. Has any team ever jettisoned two sets of brothers in the one off-season? 

The Cockatoo-Collins boys?

 

  On 20/09/2020 at 20:47, dazzledavey36 said:

Well it hasn't stopped North, Bombers, and Port delisting kids without any VFL games. 

He'll get cut.

I don't see the need to cut rookies unless the AFL cut the list. It's a compromised weak draft so you would expect a weak rookie draft. I'd keep Chandler and Dunkley for one more year. If their was a year to keep most of your list intact this would be the year.

Bennell - get rid of him first, doesn’t deserve anymore chances Obviously doesn’t care about the MFC or his teammates 

These blokes are lucky to have a frigging job

 

Edited September 20, 20204 yr by Billy

  On 20/09/2020 at 11:47, dazzledavey36 said:

Delisted 

Josh Wagner

Corey Wagner

Toby Bedford

James Jordon

Kyle Dunkley

Kade Chandler

Austin Bradke

Oscar McDonald 

Mitch Brown ???

Bennell ???

Trade 

Tom McDonald 

Jack Viney (free agency)

Tom Sparrow ( only if he wants to go back home )

Retired 

Jones 

Jetta

Re-sign

Petty

Hore

Fritsch 

Hunt

Lockhart

Smith

 

I agree with most BUT I would not have Smith in my Reserves Team if we had one. He is just as bad as O Mc Donald...

  On 20/09/2020 at 14:16, A F said:

Jeepers, people are suggesting a lot of changes. 10 is a lot to go off your primary list at this stage in our evolution. Possible, I guess.

NOT if the list sizes are reduced to 35 as anticipated and directed by the AFL

The AFL will not slash list sizes, they will be reduced gradually, by about 2 this year and 2 next year and maybe 1 the third year, is my guess.

  On 20/09/2020 at 21:34, Ohio USA - David said:

NOT if the list sizes are reduced to 35 as anticipated and directed by the AFL

How many of them will be rookies?

  On 20/09/2020 at 21:55, WERRIDEE said:

How many of them will be rookies?

I hear it’s likely to be 37 + 3 rookies.  That’s a reduction from 44-46 for most clubs do I think to see 10 blokes delisted is perhaps to be expected.  

  On 20/09/2020 at 12:40, spirit of norm smith said:

Delist 

Dunkley, OMac?, Cwagner, JWagner, Joel Smith ?, Bradtke, Chandler, and ... unfortunately Bennell ??

Retire - Jetta?, Kk ?

thats 10 off the list  (down to 35)  

who is in the fringes ??? 

1. I’m feeling compassion and I know I might be ridiculed but I’m giving Jonesy one more year. 

2. Hannan and Spargo are just hanging on ... just 

3. Bedford and Jordan are just hanging in for their development 

4. Hunt and Baker saved themselves in the last 2 games and at least they’ve got pace which we lack 

 

trade discussion - Preuss (Giants?) Neal-Bullen (Crows?) Tmac (anyone who is interested). I reckon ideally at least two trades here  (brings list down to 33)  

probably will entertain a discussion about Sparrow but would love to keep him (Crows would need to give us their 2nd round pick circa pick 19). 

List to rookie list - Nietschke (as promised ) 

I think the AFL will cut lists to 40 (37 plus 3 rookies)   

 

I just cannot see Joel Smith staying in the list. He was pathetic on the weekend and seems lost. Sure he might be better as a forward imo but we have too many of that mid sized half forward types anyway.  Perhaps we failed in his development and another Goodwin failure casualty. 

  On 20/09/2020 at 11:47, dazzledavey36 said:

Mitch Brown

Sorry Dd. I find your analysis very good but really? 

It is interesting trying to guess.  We have no line of sight on any of the list and what the coaches think without VFL action.  Before the last 2 weeks, Baker would have been on people’s chopping block, but now he is a ‘retain’.

People calling for Smith to get cut may not be on the same page as the coach - they selected him over and over again.  OMac?  Horses for courses sort of defender that may have lost his place to Tommo.  TMac?  What was up with the big fella?

Players like chandler, Dunkley and Nieshke may get rolled over if we can’t replace them with better options.  There is no use emptying the potato bucket just to refill it with different potatoes.  Every list change needs to lead to an upgrade.  If the demons have a style and a gameplan, then the players have to be fit for purpose for this.

Waiting to see who they cut first - the ones they believe have zero trade value (even for a late 4th rounder).  We don’t have to delist players before Oct 31 (end of contract time) I would have thought.

  On 20/09/2020 at 20:54, Radar Detector said:

Delist

Oscar McDonald 

Josh Wagner

Corey Wagner

Kyle Dunkley

Kade Chandler

Trade 

Tom McDonald

Brayden Preuss (if he could yield a decent pick)

Retire 

Jetta

KK

Re-sign

Petty

Hore

Fritsch 

Hunt

Viney

Rookie changes

Lockhart (upgrade)

Nietschke (downgrade)

Smith (downgrade)

Last chance

Spargo

Hannan

This is accurate.

Can I suggest retire our wonderful servant in dark times Nathan Jones. Perhaps a kept on in a coaching role .

Trade Melksham.

Delist Smith.

ANB a possible trade. One good game towards the end of the season isnt everything.

Despite the week of hell, losing 2 innable games the club seems in a position to certainly improve if we implement the above.

May and Trac have become what we hoped for.

Langdon is a star.

Much promise in Rivers and Jackson.

If we can find just ONE 40 plus ff and a good crumber than we will be lloking good.

Hopefully we will also have around 10 new players to pick from rather than shuffling the usual suspects.