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We desperately need a gun key forward

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1 hour ago, Kent said:

At the moment Weid is anything but a gun forward

Disagree. He had a sustained run of form when the team was firing and before we started playing 3 games in a week in a tropical cyclone that was as good as any key forward in the comp not named Hawkins or Dixon. He was taking marks on gun defenders like Harris Andrews and Darcy Moore.

19 goals in 13 shortened games actually becomes 40 goals in 22 full length games. And whilst that doesn't sound much it takes a good forward to do much more than that these days.

He has to make strides with his body to make sure he's durable enough to get through 22 full length games but if he does do that he'll be getting to more contests and finding more cheap ball as well. So it's a win-win.

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    4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Disagree. He had a sustained run of form when the team was firing and before we started playing 3 games in a week in a tropical cyclone that was as good as any key forward in the comp not named Hawkins or Dixon. He was taking marks on gun defenders like Harris Andrews and Darcy Moore.

    19 goals in 13 shortened games actually becomes 40 goals in 22 full length games. And whilst that doesn't sound much it takes a good forward to do much more than that these days.

    He has to make strides with his body to make sure he's durable enough to get through 22 full length games but if he does do that he'll be getting to more contests and finding more cheap ball as well. So it's a win-win.

    I totally agree.  Weid is on the way to being a very good player.  He's a smart footballer, brave in the air, a beautiful kick and contrary to popular belief he's fine at ground level and a great creative handballer on both sides which is rare. 

    He needed a mature partner in crime and that was supposed to be TMac.  Jackson helped but then at the crucial time he got injured.  Brown is useful but not as a key marking target.  Weid flies against 2-3 tall defenders and Fritsch reaps the benefits - if only he could convert ...

    Next year with Jackson and Petty to draw defenders and, assist and a year's more growth into a 23yo body he will really establish himself.

    I get it that the FD is saying we need more mature forward targets but I cannot see any available where cost-benefit is delivered.

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    On 9/20/2020 at 10:00 PM, Rusty Nails said:

    If wishes were horses W.

    Yes i know Pruess is a ruckman.  You are missing the point i was making i think.

    Missed Jackson!? ....remind me how many games he's played and played this year W?  Come on guys.  If there was a time for the tough to get going it was when LJ the rookie went down.  This was the Weids chance to finally stand up and show some maturity after 5 seasons.  Instead he was nowhere to be seen when we had a finals berth on the line and the bulk of our goals had to come from medium smalls and/or mids.

    It's a matter of trust and consistency.  The Weid brings neither of those week in / out and goes missing for patches/matches far too often.

    Possibly a back up 3rd stringer at best.  Time to look elsewhere.

    Couldn't have said it better.

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    If Weid doesn't hand ball to Hunt in the goal square, this conversion is going a lot differently! 

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    2 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

    I totally agree.  Weid is on the way to being a very good player.  He's a smart footballer, brave in the air, a beautiful kick and contrary to popular belief he's fine at ground level and a great creative handballer on both sides which is rare. 

    He needed a mature partner in crime and that was supposed to be TMac.  Jackson helped but then at the crucial time he got injured.  Brown is useful but not as a key marking target.  Weid flies against 2-3 tall defenders and Fritsch reaps the benefits - if only he could convert ...

    Next year with Jackson and Petty to draw defenders and, assist and a year's more growth into a 23yo body he will really establish himself.

    I get it that the FD is saying we need more mature forward targets but I cannot see any available where cost-benefit is delivered.

    Weid is a bit soft for my liking. Really needs to put his knee up and run through contest and impose himself 

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    Weid is going okay, i'm not too upset with where he's at. but he definitely needs a second tall to support him. 

    in a perfect world McDonald would find some form and we would be fine

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    I wouldn't mind having a crack at trying to get Jeremy Cameron. I know it is highly unlikely though.

    I long for the days we were spoilt for choice with our key forwards being David Neitz, David Schwarz and Garry Lyon.

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    3 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Weid is going okay, i'm not too upset with where he's at. but he definitely needs a second tall to support him. 

    in a perfect world McDonald would find some form and we would be fine

    Agree...I wouldn't sell the farm for a forward yet.

    Fritsch kicking straight is 40 goals a year and Weid is also a 40 goal player. Add in LJ and Pickett with 20 each and you have a reasonable forward line.

    Is Petty capable of adding twenty and driving the ball forward... I have no idea

    My concern is whether we will get enough goals out of Hannan, AVB and Melksham.

    Would be good if Oliver could get a few more a la Dangerfield

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    5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Agree...I wouldn't sell the farm for a forward yet.

    Fritsch kicking straight is 40 goals a year and Weid is also a 40 goal player. Add in LJ and Pickett with 20 each and you have a reasonable forward line.

    Is Petty capable of adding twenty and driving the ball forward... I have no idea

    My concern is whether we will get enough goals out of Hannan, AVB and Melksham.

    Would be good if Oliver could get a few more a la Dangerfield

    I think with improved forward craft the output of all of those forwards would improve quite a bit. 

    To be honest i don't think we're going far as a side if any of those 3 are in our best 22 next year. i think it's time for Sparrow and co to step up and grab those spots. 

    I think a better balance with Petracca forward and he could be worth another 25 goals as well. 

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    I think ET the trade news breaker will soon announce Daniher to Lions.

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    Carlton have too many too tall forwards and desperately need inside mids or Cripp’s is going to have a very short career. Trade Viney for McKay.  Win win for both clubs 

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    On 9/23/2020 at 8:27 PM, The Chief said:

    Carlton have too many too tall forwards and desperately need inside mids or Cripp’s is going to have a very short career. Trade Viney for McKay.  Win win for both clubs 

    I don't think there's any chance that we could get McKay. I would enquire about Charlie Curnow, however, if we were able to form a belief that we could get him on the park.

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    On 9/22/2020 at 10:58 AM, BW511 said:

    Seems very strange that North would want to get rid of Ben Brown, yet bring T-Mac in?

    Surely Brown is a better bet for guaranteed goals?

    Must be a reason

    Norff is run by morons. 

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    On 9/22/2020 at 2:00 PM, Red and Blue realist said:

    biggest forward issue is not a gun tall (Weid and LJ can be that),

    Sorry . . . what exactly is the evidence for that? 

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    On 9/22/2020 at 3:44 PM, adonski said:

    Trade Gus and a future first to secure a top 5 pick and simply draft one 

    Because the Deez have an impeccable history at drafting top five picks. 

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    14 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    Because the Deez have an impeccable history at drafting top five picks. 

    Been pretty good in recent years 

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    On 9/23/2020 at 6:25 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

    Agree...I wouldn't sell the farm for a forward yet.

    Fritsch kicking straight is 40 goals a year and Weid is also a 40 goal player. Add in LJ and Pickett with 20 each and you have a reasonable forward line.

    Is Petty capable of adding twenty and driving the ball forward... I have no idea

    My concern is whether we will get enough goals out of Hannan, AVB and Melksham.

    Would be good if Oliver could get a few more a la Dangerfield

    Rotating and resting Oliver/Trac out of the goal square giving Harmes/Brayshaw some time through the middle could get those boys firing again while picking up an extra few goals a game. 

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    I've got a feeling they're going to have to think outside the square here. Are there any crash and bash big meat heads in the state leagues who compete in the air and on the ground like their life depends on it?

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    25 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

    I've got a feeling they're going to have to think outside the square here. Are there any crash and bash big meat heads in the state leagues who compete in the air and on the ground like their life depends on it?

    This is truly a brilliant idea. 

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    1 hour ago, Tough Kent said:

    I've got a feeling they're going to have to think outside the square here. Are there any crash and bash big meat heads in the state leagues who compete in the air and on the ground like their life depends on it?

    I think the state leagues are a big gamble this year, as none have played any football.

    The AFL blokes were lucky they could play and train, the others haven’t at all

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