Jump to content

Isaac Smith

Lord Nev
Lord Nev
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

1 hour ago, A F said:

Smith is coming to Melbourne, just like Brown. 

This sure is polarising given your dislike for "speculation".

 

  • Quote
    • Haha 2
     
    1 hour ago, Dr evil said:

    My opinion is he's having a hard time officially telling the Hawks. they know, because they aren't stupid, but actually telling a club you've been at for a long period of time, and had a lot of success with is a big deal. 

    I don't think we officially confirmed Tomlinson until the start of free agency last year even though it was well known. That's the best way to do it. All these other free agents picking out clubs (some restricted) get a wave of publicity for the media but the club gets nothing.

    Wait until the official start on Friday, put him in a club polo on the club website and get all the clicks for us and our sponsors.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    On 10/25/2020 at 12:21 AM, JTR said:

    I couldn't care less about his kicking when under pressure. Its his inexplicable shanks when no one is on him (even when he has a free) that grinds my gears.

    Anyway, sorry, I've derailed this thread enough.

    Back to Smith. Good kick!

    Smith isnt a good kick. his right leg collapses when he kicks on the run and he kicks a kot of helicopters. he can kick it a decent distance but doesn't have much finesse. i understand why we're chasing Smith because we're slow but with Goodwin coaching we're not in the premiership window. So getting Smith is wasted, even though i dont rate him anyway. Higgins is twice the player. 

  • Quote
    •  

    The way I see it is we tend to keep free agency information on the down low, instead waiting until the period has begun to simply sign the free agents over and announce that the player has joined the club. I don't remember in recent memory of any player announcing they were going to sign with us via free agency before the signing period began.

    The only time where a player has announced their intention to join us beforehand has been when we've had to facilitate a trade.

    This may be why nothing has been announced yet and may not be announced until Friday.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    3 hours ago, Dr.D said:

    Smith isnt a good kick. his right leg collapses when he kicks on the run and he kicks a kot of helicopters. he can kick it a decent distance but doesn't have much finesse. i understand why we're chasing Smith because we're slow but with Goodwin coaching we're not in the premiership window. So getting Smith is wasted, even though i dont rate him anyway. Higgins is twice the player. 

     Over 200 games, 3 flags in a golden era for the Hawks and you don’t rate him?

    You may prefer Higgins but he is not twice the player. 

    I can understand that Higgins has more long term value due to age and games played but is he what we need in 2021?

    My main concern is that Smith is at the end of his career and is playing for his pay cheque rather than his future. He has nothing to prove and already has 3 flags under his belt. Hard to imagine him retaining the hunger to maintain form and fitness. He may play a role but will it be enough to make a significant difference? 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    6 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

    Another lifestyle move?  Don’t these guys know that it’s only a 10 minute drive to the Collingwood children’s farm from AAMI park?

    or a 5 min drive to an actually working farm at Casey Fields. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    15 minutes ago, hemingway said:

     Over 200 games, 3 flags in a golden era for the Hawks and you don’t rate him?

    You may prefer Higgins but he is not twice the player. 

    I can understand that Higgins has more long term value due to age and games played but is he what we need in 2021?

    My main concern is that Smith is at the end of his career and is playing for his pay cheque rather than his future. He has nothing to prove and already has 3 flags under his belt. Hard to imagine him retaining the hunger to maintain form and fitness. He may play a role but will it be enough to make a significant difference? 

    the only difference between smith and phillips/polec is flags, and that doesn't say anything really about the player coz realistically and i know its not completely the case but they could carry anyone to a flag during those years such was the dominance so why would we not target someone younger and hungrier than just the paycheck signing.

  • Quote
    7 minutes ago, Turner said:

    the only difference between smith and phillips/polec is flags, and that doesn't say anything really about the player coz realistically and i know its not completely the case but they could carry anyone to a flag during those years such was the dominance so why would we not target someone younger and hungrier than just the paycheck signing.

    From memory, Smith performed well in their flag wins but your last comment is the issue. All things being equal, a younger player with more to prove makes more sense.. 

  • Quote

    1 minute ago, hemingway said:

    From memory, Smith performed well in their flag wins but your last comment is the issue. All things being equal, a younger player with more to prove makes more sense.. 

    Then it makes less sense for Geelong, and no sense for anyone else.  Suspect we are looking for a role player to assist the team, rather than unearthing the next Dusty or Trac with this pick.  He has plenty to prove - that he is up to AFL Standard and worth more than hawks were valuing him at.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    17 minutes ago, Turner said:

    the only difference between smith and phillips/polec is flags, and that doesn't say anything really about the player coz realistically and i know its not completely the case but they could carry anyone to a flag during those years such was the dominance so why would we not target someone younger and hungrier than just the paycheck signing.

    Polec has the most upside but he''ll cost either a decent draft pick or a lot of cash, plus he might not fit the culture. Where if Smith is the right player for us he could enhance the culture - we need to assess his leadership credentials thoroughly and not just assume it of course.

    Phillips is another where draft pick and pay cheque come in to play. That might not matter if we're planning on getting 5 years out of him but I have a sneaky suspicion the AFL might've seen the best of Tom Phillips. There's also the matter of whether the Pies want to actually give him up. Phillips only has 1 more year on his expensive contract, if they push out Treloar they could look to keep him on a better deal after 2021.

    There's certainly pros and cons and I can talk myself in to any of them but the most important thing is getting someone that can do the role and does what they are bought in to do. If Smith is bought in to do the job for 2 years whilst we draft or develop a long term replacement then that's job done.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    4 hours ago, Dr.D said:

    Smith isnt a good kick. his right leg collapses when he kicks on the run and he kicks a kot of helicopters. he can kick it a decent distance but doesn't have much finesse. i understand why we're chasing Smith because we're slow but with Goodwin coaching we're not in the premiership window. So getting Smith is wasted, even though i dont rate him anyway. Higgins is twice the player. 

    Agree on Smith's kicking, but our defensive system held up for most of the year and Smith providing run to get back to support and options on the way out that should only get stronger.

    It will be up to Yze to get some class around the midfield and find targets going inside 50 more often. If Smith sticks to what he's good at - running 30 and bombing it 60 - he won't have to nail too many hit up kicks.

    I assume you mean Shaun Higgins? He'd be great and we should absolute be investigating him. What would it cost to get him when Geelong want him though? 

  • Quote

     

    As long as we get one winger I’ll be happy.

    Smith , Polec, or Phillips.

    Edited by DeeZee

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Damien Barrett now saying Cats are now right in the hunt for Smith..

    https://media.whooshkaa.com/show/9121/episode/750078.mp3

    Would make sense why all is quiet from Smiths end. You would think if he had made his mind up it would be announced.

    Could also be that he is double checking which deal suits him better and comparing us to the cats.

  • Quote
    1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

    Would make sense why all is quiet from Smiths end. You would think if he had made his mind up it would be announced.

    Could also be that he is double checking which deal suits him better and comparing us to the cats.

    Yep, reckon he's bound for kardinia Park.

  • Quote
    Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

    Yep, reckon he's bound for kardinia Park.

    Gut feel and nothing else, yes.

  • Quote

    Issac Smith will be a demon in 2021. 

    I don't know 100% what the delay is about, but the dees do tend to wait for the window to make things public. 

    I suspect before Sunday Issac will be rolled out in a red and blue polo. 

  • Quote
    • Like 8

    Smith is getting on and we should not be a retirement fund for geriatrics. I also think he is on the way down.

    There are others out there. Philips comes to mind.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    Just now, Dr evil said:

    Issac Smith will be a demon in 2021. 

    I don't know 100% what the delay is about, but the dees do tend to wait for the window to make things public. 

    I suspect before Sunday Issac will be rolled out in a red and blue polo. 

    keep it coming Dr E....your keeping me sane. 

  • Quote
    • Like 4
    • Haha 1
    5 minutes ago, Dr evil said:

    Issac Smith will be a demon in 2021. 

    I don't know 100% what the delay is about, but the dees do tend to wait for the window to make things public. 

    I suspect before Sunday Issac will be rolled out in a red and blue polo. 

    Gee whizz Evil, not doubting you or your intel, but don't you want to perhaps cut yourself some slack in the chance that perhaps he may have changed his mind, or been swayed elsewhere? I admire and respect your willingness to stay the course, but maybe, just maybe things have changed?

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    Just now, the fork said:

    Gee whizz Evil, not doubting you or your intel, but don't you want to perhaps cut yourself some slack in the chance that perhaps he may have changed his mind, or been swayed elsewhere? I admire and respect your willingness to stay the course, but maybe, just maybe things have changed?

    Hahaha i'm confident mate, i trust my sources for the information i post on here and the only thing that has changed is the way a couple of journo's are reading the delay. it's their job to appear ahead of the news and provide content, i get it. 

    I am 100% confident Issac Smith is coming to the demons and the delay in announcing has nothing to do with the cats. it's not even really a delay. but lets call it that haha. 

  • Quote
    • Like 7
    • Thanks 3
    • Love 1
    10 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    Smith is getting on and we should not be a retirement fund for geriatrics. I also think he is on the way down.

    There are others out there. Philips comes to mind.

     

    Yes, I almost bumped the Tom Philips thread earlier to see if anyones heard any whispers.

    Would be a great pickup, and wouldn't cost much.

     

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 10

      The Sir Doug Nicholls Round kicks off in Darwin with a Top 4 clash between the Suns and the Hawks. On Friday night the Swans will be seeking to rebound from a challenging start to the season, while the Blues have the Top 8 in their sights after their sluggish start. Saturdays matches kick off with a blockbuster between the Collingwood and Kuwarna with the Magpies looking to maintain their strong form and the Crows aiming to make a statement on the road. The Power face a difficult task to revive their season against a resilient Cats side looking to make amends for their narrow loss last week. The Giants aim to reinforce their top-eight status, while the Dockers will be looking to break the travel hoodoo. The sole Saturday game is a critical matchup for both teams, as the Bulldogs strive to cemet their spot in the top six and the Bombers desperately want break into the 8. Sundays start with a bottom 3 clash between the Tigers and Kangaroos with both teams wanting to avoid the being in wooden spoon contention. The Round concludes with the Eagles still searching for their first win of the season, while the Saints look to keep their finals hopes alive with a crucial away victory. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

        • Thanks
      • 87 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Brisbane

      And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

        • Clap
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 11 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Hawthorn

      There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

        • Clap
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 1 reply
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Footscray

      At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

        • Thanks
      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Brisbane

      The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 271 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Hawthorn

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

        • Clap
        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 53 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All