On 07/09/2020 at 04:13, titan_uranus said:

That's not entirely true.

Whilst the Dogs' win last night makes it harder, we can still make it if we lose tonight.

Requires the following:

1. We beat GWS and Essendon
2. The Dogs lose one of their last two (Hawthorn and Fremantle)
3. GWS loses to Adelaide
4. St Kilda loses both of its last two games (West Coast and GWS)
5. Collingwood loses both of its last two games (GC and Port).

We would then finish on 9, as would St Kilda, the Dogs and GWS. Percentage would separate us through 6-9 on the ladder. If Carlton were to win out, it would also finish on 9 and would join the percentage battle.

Because there are three spots available, we can actually afford for a maximum of two of the above situations to not play out. On the probabilities, the least likely is GWS losing to Adelaide. But then we can only afford one more the above to not happen or we won't make it - so, for example, if Collingwood beats Gold Coast we then need the Dogs to drop a game, or vice versa.

Forget the mathematics. If we can't win these last 3 games then we don't deserve to be playing in the finals.

We should not be rewarded for our competition falling over.

Bradbury be damned.

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:13, titan_uranus said:

 

1. We beat GWS and Essendon
2. The Dogs lose one of their last two (Hawthorn and Fremantle)
3. GWS loses to Adelaide
4. St Kilda loses both of its last two games (West Coast and GWS)
5. Collingwood loses both of its last two games (GC and Port).

 

I can't see it happening but hopefully GC put in one of their early season like performances and knock off the Pies. 

That would help us no end in our pursuit of getting in with 9 wins.

It's highly possible that St Kilda loses both games and we make up the required percentage provided our one loss isn't a belting.  St Kilda's close win yesterday was almost like a win for us.

GWS simply won't lose to Adelaide and the Dogs cant lose to Hawthorn or Freo. Beveridge is too good a coach to allow a slip up of that magnitude.

The Dogs winning last night really did reduce our options in getting in with 9 wins.

It is very windy and warm here in Cairns.  It should be cool enough by tonight and the wind should drop down after dark but you will want to kick a bag with the wind.

Possibility of light showers.

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:25, Jontee said:

It is very windy and warm here in Cairns.  It should be cool enough by tonight and the wind should drop down after dark but you will want to kick a bag with the wind.

Possibility of light showers.

Looks like the game's over before it started.

The wind has to be blowing at less than 2km per hour for us to be any good.

our midfield is looking very, very thin

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:09, layzie said:

Never made sense picking Hibberd. Give him every chance sure but he really needed a full week at least. 

since when was 9 days less than a week?

Have stopped buying into this club.  The leadership still ordinary, the coaching bewildering and the list has too many inconsistent types who can’t kick.

Tom McDonald totally out of favour whilst on big coin.

Fremantle will go past us, as have other clubs while we continue to talk it up.  Goodwin has not met expectations and frankly how long?

love to know the percentage of members supporters who do not trust this group from week to week.  

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:42, Soidee said:

.......

love to know the percentage of members supporters who do not trust this group from week to week.  

really? you mean you can't work it out?

 

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:42, Soidee said:

Have stopped buying into this club.  The leadership still ordinary, the coaching bewildering and the list has too many inconsistent types who can’t kick.

Tom McDonald totally out of favour whilst on big coin.

Fremantle will go past us, as have other clubs while we continue to talk it up.  Goodwin has not met expectations and frankly how long?

love to know the percentage of members supporters who do not trust this group from week to week.  

Its hardly difficult.100%

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:48, daisycutter said:

really? you mean you can't work it out?

 

I could not resist dc I worked it out.

We should win, with ease, but I'm sure we will play rubbish with no strategy and then get a run on at the end, a normal flat track bully game imo. But it will still prove, we are going nowhere under Simon. Must say, thanks to a lot of posters sarcasm has got me through lately, even the  positive posters are having a laugh! 

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:25, Jontee said:

It is very windy and warm here in Cairns.  It should be cool enough by tonight and the wind should drop down after dark but you will want to kick a bag with the wind.

Possibility of light showers.

Are we allowed to just forfeit this game now?

  On 07/09/2020 at 05:04, SFebes said:

We should win, with ease, but I'm sure we will play rubbish with no strategy and then get a run on at the end, a normal flat track bully game imo. But it will still prove, we are going nowhere under Simon. Must say, thanks to a lot of posters sarcasm has got me through lately, even the  positive posters are having a laugh! 

Yes it is a lot happier and more positive  on here than living in Melbourne.

 

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:25, Jontee said:

It is very windy and warm here in Cairns. 

Yeah we are screwed.

We should never have been sent to play there anyway.  Had already done more traveling than any other team before we even got on the plane to Cairns.

Edited September 7, 20204 yr by Pickett2Jackson

I don’t understand how Lockhart can’t get a game in the backline!

Team just feels unbalanced.

One key forward, only one crummier in the pocket

Zero confidence! 

Just hope we can manage a win!

Go Demons!

 

Very worried about going in with two rucks, neither of whom have shown any forward craft.

On the flipside, it's good to see we've finally picked two genuine small forwards.

With so many changes each week, how do we even find continuity and connection that Goodwin speaks of? Totally unsettled and all over the place. 13 changes in 2 weeks and 17 in 3 weeks? A lot of these changes also weren't even close to the right ones either.

Edited September 7, 20204 yr by SFebes

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:33, whatwhatsaywhat said:

our midfield is looking very, very thin

has fritsch been named?!! 

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:40, daisycutter said:

since when was 9 days less than a week?

I do stand corrected and apologise, they are all melting into one. 

Edited September 7, 20204 yr by layzie

  On 06/09/2020 at 22:39, binman said:

Us dees fans are a hardy lot. Who have developed all sort of coping strategies to deal with the sort of routine gut punch we got in the last game.

Some get angry. Some fatalistic. Some vow never to care again. Some get depressed. Well all really. And some pretend it's just a game.

Me I give it some time, try to process my frustration,  then pretend it never happened and by game day and full of optimism, can't see how we can possibly lose and am trying to convince my mate we should back the dees over 39. 

I developed this coping mechanism during the long dark days of the 70s. And have been honing it ever since.

A key design element is a seven day break between games. Six day break stress tests the model. But it cannot cope with a four day break.

Freo will be desperate to beat our Casey ones and we have decided to help their cause by changing a third of our side.

And having refused to use two rucks suddenly decided to do so.

And despite making seven changes [censored] Melksham is not one of them.

And despite lack of foot skills being our biggest glaring issue we don't bring in our best kick. 

And after picking the slowest dees side since Spud Dullard and Ray Biffen graced the team, and 90& of supports wondering why against young swans team who our skipper said in the lead up like to play fast footy, we have suddenly picked the fastest, against a team that moves the ball at turtle speed.. 

And the coach knows the problem. And is working on fixing it. Make no mistake the players want to win. And know that effort was not acceptable. This is not the Melbourne way (yes goody, it [censored] well is). We have an identifiable brand (that at least is true, but it ain't what you think). We will look to play our best team each week, cos we are super burgess fit. Until we don't. We will pick a side that want to win. 

[censored]. [censored] [censored]. Another [censored] wasted [censored] season. [censored]. [censored]. 

 

Jesus, even Binman has stopped rummaging through the skip. Anything remaining from my helpless hope has just departed, I fear.

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:24, Demonland said:

Forget the mathematics. If we can't win these last 3 games then we don't deserve to be playing in the finals.

ANd if we miss finals ..........

then we will have made finals once since 2006 - once in 14 seasons.

In a comp where 8 teams out of 18 make it every year

just pack up and turn the lights out

Thanks Simon.

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:24, Demonland said:

Forget the mathematics. If we can't win these last 3 games then we don't deserve to be playing in the finals.

We should not be rewarded for our competition falling over.

Bradbury be damned.

The team that wins the flag will probably be the biggest Bradbury of all!

  On 07/09/2020 at 05:38, jnrmac said:

ANd if we miss finals ..........

then we will have made finals once since 2006 - once in 14 seasons.

In a comp where 8 teams out of 18 make it every year

just pack up and turn the lights out

Thanks Simon.

Almost a 50% probability. When you remember it included GWS and GCS in their formative years it really is a rubbish record.

  On 07/09/2020 at 04:40, daisycutter said:

since when was 9 days less than a week?

Not a great deal of difference considering at the time it looked like a serious ankle injury..

  On 07/09/2020 at 05:26, Rocky said:

has fritsch been named?!! 

i said thin not scrawny!