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52 minutes ago, binman said:

I hope he plays and is fully fit so we play the strongest side possible so when we win no excuses from the peanut gallery are trotted out.

 

 

 

Jokes.

English or no English, they're pretty healthy at the moment.

Just missing a few mid rangers in Dureya, Cordy, Suckling and possibly Crozier.

They have all their guns in so it will be a genuinely satisfying win if we can knock them off.

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    1 hour ago, drdrake said:

    For those suggesting Tmac goes out for Gawn, with Preuss to stay in  don't really understand Weidermans role at the moment.  He is playing our deepest forward with either Tmac or Jackson in front of him.  Preuss couldn't play the Tmac/Jackson role he would need to play the Weiderman Role, I not sure we what to change that up.

    Yep, I think it's a dangerous move to play with the forward mix.

    McDonald, for the most part, is doing his job. He just needs to bring the ball to ground and take his chances if he gets them.

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    4 minutes ago, A F said:

    Yep, I think it's a dangerous move to play with the forward mix.

    McDonald, for the most part, is doing his job. He just needs to bring the ball to ground and take his chances if he gets them.

    Seems like he also finally stopped taking his man to the same contest as Weid, if he only does one thing right for the rest of the year it should be to take his man away from Weid into space.

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    Please no to Preuss and Gawn. It clearly didn't work last year and i can't see it working this week against a slick and fast Bulldogs unit.

    T Mac should be played as the key forward/second ruck because he has the forward craft that nether of the 2 big blokes posses.

    Choose out of Preuss or Gawn (if fit), and if they prefer Preuss, then Gawn plays in a scratch match.

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    Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Please no to Preuss and Gawn. It clearly didn't work last year and i can't see it working this week against a slick and fast Bulldogs unit.

    T Mac should be played as the key forward/second ruck because he has the forward craft that nether of the 2 big blokes posses.

    Choose out of Preuss or Gawn (if fit), and if they prefer Preuss, then Gawn plays in a scratch match.

    yeah, it's a bit late in the season to start forward experiments, especially as the forward line lately )and finally) is playing much better and gelling well structurally  

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    6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Please no to Preuss and Gawn. It clearly didn't work last year and i can't see it working this week against a slick and fast Bulldogs unit.

    T Mac should be played as the key forward/second ruck because he has the forward craft that nether of the 2 big blokes posses.

    Choose out of Preuss or Gawn (if fit), and if they prefer Preuss, then Gawn plays in a scratch match.

    I'll second that BBP.  No more forward experiments please.  Structure is about right as it is.

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    10 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    I'll second that BBP.  No more forward experiments please.  Structure is about right as it is.

    Keep meaning to say RN there are a couple in your avatar that could play a bit!

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    43 minutes ago, Garbo said:

    Seems like he also finally stopped taking his man to the same contest as Weid, if he only does one thing right for the rest of the year it should be to take his man away from Weid into space.

    I reckon the forward coaching has been really top notch the last 5-6 weeks. Incidentally, I think this occurred after moving Plapp into the forward coaching role. FWIW...

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    I reckon the forward coaching has been really top notch the last 5-6 weeks. Incidentally, I think this occurred after moving Plapp into the forward coaching role. FWIW...

     

    Looking at the front on vision of the goals scored it seems that the players are running in on a straight line for their shots on goal perhaps they have listened to Dunstall on goal kicking technique.

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    36 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

    I reckon the forward coaching has been really top notch the last 5-6 weeks. Incidentally, I think this occurred after moving Plapp into the forward coaching role. FWIW...

     

    Looking at the front on vision of the goals scored it seems that the players are running in on a straight line for their shots on goal perhaps they have listened to Dunstall on goal kicking technique.

    Who was forward coach before him, was it Chapman??

    24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

     The word SCHADENFREUDE seems appropriate.

    Get well soon Tim

    ..say 7 days.

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    Having just watched the replay, I’m convinced that if Gawn plays, they’re not going to drop TMac. He didn’t take enough marks but did the next best thing in bringing the ball to ground - two of which directly resulted in goals (Melksham and Spargo). He’s still a long way from his best, he’s going well enough.

    In: Gawn

    Out: Preuss

    If Gawn is no good, then no change.

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    1 minute ago, Nasher said:

    Having just watched the replay, I’m convinced that if Gawn plays, they’re not going to drop TMac. He didn’t take enough marks but did the next best thing in bringing the ball to ground - two of which directly resulted in goals (Melksham and Spargo). He’s still a long way from his best, he’s going well enough.

    In: Gawn

    Out: Preuss

    If Gawn is no good, then no change.

    Totally agree with this, and his pressure rating has been very good since coming back too.

    Someone else raised the point when talking about Tomlinson that it's hard to tell how the off the ball work is going at either end given we can't be at the games, and I reckon that's relevant for TMac as well.

    Plus, as much as I love the big Preusster, can see him getting in the way a bit if played as a forward. Don't see him as much of an improvement speed & agility wise over the HMAS TMac either.

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    1 hour ago, old dee said:

    Keep meaning to say RN there are a couple in your avatar that could play a bit!

    Yes OD i never saw any of them play (obviously too young for the Fox and a fair way shy of Bluey/Dicko) but i remember meeting Dicko after the "No merger" faction launch in the City square (i think it was there vs Fed square) in '96'.  I didn't actually chat to him at the launch other than briefly hearing him speak alongside Alan Johnson.  A quick hand shake and thank you for what they were doing for the club was about it.

    However, as i was walking back to where my car was parked i had the good fortune to run in to Brian.  Had a good chat about all the goings on.  He certainly didn't mince words and i remember thinking how switched on / sharp he was for the age he was pushing. He went on to tell me some of the history of his involvement and also how he felt about some of those involved pushing for the merger.  I can't remember the exact details now but let's just say he was less than happy about the whole situation and there was some mention of some of the personalities on the no merger side etc.

    I do remember thinking how passionate he was for the red & blue afterwards but also didn't feel great with the chances of the no merger getting through.  My gut feel after that chat was that he (and Johno) were coming to the party possibly too little too late as outsiders / rebels swimming against the tide if that makes sense.  That may have been just before he managed to get diamond Joe on board.

    At that stage i had no idea how good a footballer he was and then went on to do a little reading to find out.  And find out i did!


    2 hours ago, A F said:

    I reckon the forward coaching has been really top notch the last 5-6 weeks. Incidentally, I think this occurred after moving Plapp into the forward coaching role. FWIW...

    Yes i think he got a mention in the interview with Spargo after the match AF

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    Any danger that James Jordan gets a crack so he can announce himself as the second coming of Jack Macrae?

    8 hours ago, Nasher said:

    Having just watched the replay, I’m convinced that if Gawn plays, they’re not going to drop TMac. He didn’t take enough marks but did the next best thing in bringing the ball to ground - two of which directly resulted in goals (Melksham and Spargo). He’s still a long way from his best, he’s going well enough.

    In: Gawn

    Out: Preuss

    If Gawn is no good, then no change.

    Felt like Tommy had a nearly day. there were a couple of times particularly forward where he got first hands to the ball but didn't quite hold it. i think he's close to finding form. another day he could kick 4-5 if he clunks them a bit better

     

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    1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Felt like Tommy had a nearly day. there were a couple of times particularly forward where he got first hands to the ball but didn't quite hold it. i think he's close to finding form. another day he could kick 4-5 if he clunks them a bit better

     

    Absulutely snd the smaller Bullfog  defence might just be his opportunity yo get on the board in a big way.

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    14 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Yes OD i never saw any of them play (obviously too young for the Fox and a fair way shy of Bluey/Dicko) but i remember meeting Dicko after the "No merger" faction launch in the City square (i think it was there vs Fed square) in '96'.  I didn't actually chat to him at the launch other than briefly hearing him speak alongside Alan Johnson.  A quick hand shake and thank you for what they were doing for the club was about it.

    However, as i was walking back to where my car was parked i had the good fortune to run in to Brian.  Had a good chat about all the goings on.  He certainly didn't mince words and i remember thinking how switched on / sharp he was for the age he was pushing. He went on to tell me some of the history of his involvement and also how he felt about some of those involved pushing for the merger.  I can't remember the exact details now but let's just say he was less than happy about the whole situation and there was some mention of some of the personalities on the no merger side etc.

    I do remember thinking how passionate he was for the red & blue afterwards but also didn't feel great with the chances of the no merger getting through.  My gut feel after that chat was that he (and Johno) were coming to the party possibly too little too late as outsiders / rebels swimming against the tide if that makes sense.  That may have been just before he managed to get diamond Joe on board.

    At that stage i had no idea how good a footballer he was and then went on to do a little reading to find out.  And find out i did!

    I worked with Frank Adams and we became good friends over a long period of time. A nice guy who mostly played down his achievements. He told me lots of stories and was very good friends with Brian Dixon. He was very much in Norm Smiths corner about the MFC having to join the real world in the mid sixties but alas the MCC who ran the MFC in those days ( members only got to vote on two of the MFC board members ) continued on their way and here we are over half a century later still without a flag. In the late 80’s I remember Him telling the worst players Got more money in a month than he got all year. He was As you probably know on Channel 7 for years and was a successful business man but in today’s world he would have been a multi millionaire from football. Nice guy who I will never forget.

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    TMac wasn't too bad, improved on his form from earlier this year. He created a lot of contests which resulted in goals, chopped out in ruck and applied enough pressure to hold his spot. Nowhere near 2018 form, but encouraging signs and played his role.

    I'd go no changes this week. If English is out, then Preuss will beat or nullify Trengove or Cordy or whoever they use in ruck. If Gawn isn't 100%, then give him another week off. If he is, then only change this week is Gawn in for Preuss.

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    1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

    TMac wasn't too bad, improved on his form from earlier this year. He created a lot of contests which resulted in goals, chopped out in ruck and applied enough pressure to hold his spot. Nowhere near 2018 form, but encouraging signs and played his role.

    I'd go no changes this week. If English is out, then Preuss will beat or nullify Trengove or Cordy or whoever they use in ruck. If Gawn isn't 100%, then give him another week off. If he is, then only change this week is Gawn in for Preuss.

    Don't speak too soon. They've got a pretty handy back up by the name of Jordon Sweet who's been desperate for a game but Bevo doesn't believe in 2 rucks and they've got a lot faith in English for obvious reasons. Sweet might be a very decent player.

     
    1 hour ago, Demonland said:

     

    I reckon we're playing funny buggers with Max at the moment. You don't say PCL if you don't mean it. He won't play this week IMO.

    58 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Don't speak too soon. They've got a pretty handy back up by the name of Jordon Sweet who's been desperate for a game but Bevo doesn't believe in 2 rucks and they've got a lot faith in English for obvious reasons. Sweet might be a very decent player.

    Sweet, on debut and from the SANFL - might be indeed

    I hope English is out and we don't take any risks with Max.

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