1 hour ago, frankie_d said:

I wonder how much internal heat there is on Goodwin? What would it take for Pert to get into the football department? Richardson has made no difference to our results - maybe he doesn't have much to offer, or maybe SG doesn't listen... 

Brown was talking about lack of on-field leadership. Yep.

A soft team when the heat's on. Same as it ever was.

Christ. I've heard Richo "describe" his role on at least three separate interviews and I remain unconvinced even he understands what it is.

26 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

Dafuq r u smoking.

Expectations and acceptance are two different things 

Did you expect us to lose by 10 goals? Did you expect us to kick 1 goal in almost 3 quarters?

30 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Right now, this is not a united club.  There are fractures within the playing group. Demonland always censor me when I try to post about them. Anyone pick up on Jones’ body language? Anyone ever seen Jones and Viney high five? Did Viney rally the troops at any stage tonight? Were Gus and Hogan two peas in a pod, cut from the same cloth? Is Tom McDonald horribly out of shape and does he crack the sads when his precious brother is on the outer? 
 

So, who is to blame? It’s the coach and Mahoney! They create the culture within a group. The Goodwin “I’m mates with everyone” approach is over. These blokes need a rocket and to sort their [censored] out and he ain’t the man to do it. Gawn is in a tough situation, because he is the big friendly giant who is a little like Goody, everyone’s mate. 
 

the Steven May interview post match was what I want to hear and I hope he gives it to a few behind closed doors. A lot of people begrudge his captaincy at GC, because he clashed with players. Yeah, because they were [censored] weak and he told them so. He drove high standards and the kids up there were more interested in the party scene on Caval Avenue. 
 

home truths need to be spoken this week. 

It was interesting seeing Jones very obviously decide not to handball to Viney when he was free on the outside at one point tonight. It was very noticeable. 

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by A F

25 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Right now, this is not a united club.  There are fractures within the playing group. Demonland always censor me when I try to post about them. Anyone pick up on Jones’ body language? Anyone ever seen Jones and Viney high five? Did Viney rally the troops at any stage tonight? Were Gus and Hogan two peas in a pod, cut from the same cloth? Is Tom McDonald horribly out of shape and does he crack the sads when his precious brother is on the outer? 
 

So, who is to blame? It’s the coach and Mahoney! They create the culture within a group. The Goodwin “I’m mates with everyone” approach is over. These blokes need a rocket and to sort their [censored] out and he ain’t the man to do it. Gawn is in a tough situation, because he is the big friendly giant who is a little like Goody, everyone’s mate. 
 

the Steven May interview post match was what I want to hear and I hope he gives it to a few behind closed doors. A lot of people begrudge his captaincy at GC, because he clashed with players. Yeah, because they were [censored] weak and he told them so. He drove high standards and the kids up there were more interested in the party scene on Caval Avenue. 
 

home truths need to be spoken this week. 

Where was the May interview? Channel 7? I had it on kayo and didn't see it

May did a good job on Dixon but I thought he was poor tonight as well. His disposal was shocking, so many turnovers and out on the full.

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by Dr. Gonzo

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Where was the May interview? Channel 7? I had it on kayo and didn't see it

I missed it too, because I'd turned off the train wreck, but if someone could let me know what was said, it would be much appreciated.

Clearly @binman needs to go back to being a call-in. Love your hosting mate but it’s just not working.

6 minutes ago, A F said:

I missed it too, because I'd turned off the train wreck, but if someone could let me know what was said, it would be much appreciated.

 

 

5 minutes ago, A F said:

I missed it too, because I'd turned off the train wreck, but if someone could let me know what was said, it would be much appreciated.

 

7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Where was the May interview? Channel 7? I had it on kayo and didn't see it

May did a good job on Dixon but I thought he was poor tonight as well. His disposal was shocking, so many turnovers and out on the full.

On the Melbourne website. May had a weird game, did some good stuff and some shocking stuff, just saw the replay of Rozee goal where he makes a goal spoil on Dixon then let's the ball between his legs and then completely ignores the ball and focusses on Dixon allowed Rozee easy access.

"If you can't execute basic fundamentals, you can't expect to be a team that's on top of the ladder."

Steven May.

At least someone gets it.

3 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

 

On the Melbourne website. May had a weird game, did some good stuff and some shocking stuff, just saw the replay of Rozee goal where he makes a goal spoil on Dixon then let's the ball between his legs and then completely ignores the ball and focusses on Dixon allowed Rozee easy access.

Yep, thought that play was horrendous and is an example of when May panics. This is something that I've been pointing out for a few weeks now. He needs to get better under pressure.

Having now watched that video with him post match, I like seeing him [censored] off. We need our guys showing a little bit of profession pride. Let's hope it's on the bloody football field next time.

34 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Only problem with that - it lets the players completely off the hook and we end up with the tail wagging the dog all over again. At this stage I'd rather ship off the likes of Brayshaw, TMac and Fritsch than sack the coach again.

No the players are responsible They are definitely not off the hook

AND

if they doing what the coach says  that is definite

Remember when May told off Frost? Plenty of commentary, but he just has high  standards and expects others to as well. That’s the leadership we need on the field. He wasn’t great tonight, but he cares

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by frankie_d
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37 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Surely the Lions game was burning in them over the last 4 days? It was burning in the supporters. I would've expected the players to be chomping at the bit to get back out there and make amends for Sunday's loss. Port only had an extra days break and had to travel. I think we're letting the players/coaches/club off the hook for another [censored] poor performance

I was so looking forward to this game - as you say, you’d think that the Brisbane game was going to be the launch pad for great things. Instead, we got that. Almost the exact opposite of what I thought would happen.

I spent the breaks watching Simpsons season 9 as I couldn't bear to listen to the commentary, but I've just seen the article and accompanying video in the Herald Sun that has Gary rightly giving the club at a whack at half time. It also has Jonathan Brown's comments about Round 1 2019 and that the players wanted to show something, instead Brown said we served up 'crap'. He's spot on and the blow torch needs to fire up. How could Melbourne players accept their vice captain last year being whacked repeatedly to the ground and roughed up without anyone flying the flag and then in the return game the following year, we don't come out amd hit them. We serve up arguably our worst performance since the 2018 prelim. It speaks to a worrying lack of leadership and that old soft under belly returning again. And I tell you what, there's no way a Clarkson side would let that happen.

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by A F

22 minutes ago, bing181 said:

"If you can't execute basic fundamentals, you can't expect to be a team that's on top of the ladder."

Steven May.

At least someone gets it.

I though he said "beat a team that's on top of the ladder"

The point is they can execute basic fundamentals, they just have to do it every week not just when they feel like it

2019 wins - Carlton, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Sydney and Fremantle 

 

2020 wins - Carlton, Gold Coast, Hawthorn.......

Here’s hoping we don’t go backwards this season. 

The good news its either 5-5 in two weeks time and in the hunt for a sneaky finals spot after a couple of wins against bottom two. (We have played and lost against 5 of the top 6 teams)

Or we lose one (or both!) and some wholesale coaching/personnel changes will start being made.   

The bad news is we dont have the money or draft position for a quick turnaround.  Deck chairs. Titanic.

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by Jjrogan

1 minute ago, Jjrogan said:

The good news its either 5-5 in two weeks time and in the hunt for a sneaky finals spot with a couple of wins against bottom two. (We have played and lost against 5 of the top 6 teams)

Or we lose one (or both!) and some wholesale coaching/personnel changes will start being made.   

The bad news is we dont have the money or draft position for a quick turnaround.  Deck chairs. Titanic.

The team that played tonight doesn’t deserve to play finals. 

It was an insipid performance, and it hasn’t been this embarrassing to call yourself a Demons supporter for a while. 

1 minute ago, Mel Bourne said:

The team that played tonight doesn’t deserve to play finals. 

It was an insipid performance, and it hasn’t been this embarrassing to call yourself a Demons supporter for a while. 

No it absolutely doesnt. But the team that played the last 3 weeks did.  Thats the point. Its a weird season and clearly form can bounce wildly.  Every team has put in a stinker or two. 

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I though he said "beat a team that's on top of the ladder"

The point is they can execute basic fundamentals, they just have to do it every week not just when they feel like it

May's comments about players needing to concentrate was telling. The interview was great - gave more insight into what wasn't working than a dozen coach's press conferences. 

Cant wait to see all the goals this week. Just don't blink.

As a Melbourne Supporter having to wear a mask to cover my face could not have come at a better time. 

5 hours ago, AmDamDemon said:

Clearly @binman needs to go back to being a call-in. Love your hosting mate but it’s just not working.

This, totally.

Also glad I went to bed at halftime. Had already scared the Bejesus out of our dog and cats by then.

5 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Right now, this is not a united club.  There are fractures within the playing group. Demonland always censor me when I try to post about them. Anyone pick up on Jones’ body language? Anyone ever seen Jones and Viney high five? Did Viney rally the troops at any stage tonight? Were Gus and Hogan two peas in a pod, cut from the same cloth? Is Tom McDonald horribly out of shape and does he crack the sads when his precious brother is on the outer? 
 

So, who is to blame? It’s the coach and Mahoney! They create the culture within a group. The Goodwin “I’m mates with everyone” approach is over. These blokes need a rocket and to sort their [censored] out and he ain’t the man to do it. Gawn is in a tough situation, because he is the big friendly giant who is a little like Goody, everyone’s mate. 
 

the Steven May interview post match was what I want to hear and I hope he gives it to a few behind closed doors. A lot of people begrudge his captaincy at GC, because he clashed with players. Yeah, because they were [censored] weak and he told them so. He drove high standards and the kids up there were more interested in the party scene on Caval Avenue. 
 

home truths need to be spoken this week. 

I'm considering reporting you to the delusional police Leon for upsetting so many happy clappers tonight.  Truthful or not, Deesgracefull summary indeed!  Their leader will be crying in his beard and may need a good wad of this to ease his anxiety and anger, IF he doesn't have you on mute already..."Gandalf!?? ...Gandalf??  Ahhh there you are"...

Edited July 30, 20204 yr by Rusty Nails

Tmcd. He was found out as a key defender.  Now again too slow and static as a key forward.   Struggling to see how he fits in.