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4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This is only in your mind

It’s not really happening, The Club has “Frozen” since Perth September 2018

We were totally pulled apart. 
i find it amazing more Supporters/Members do not see it for what it is. 
 

We need an experienced Hard Coach for 10 years

Rookie Coaches just don’t have the credentials for this Club

SWYL your paranoid with MfcSS.   Because you are scarred, and worried.

If you continue trying to pull this rebuild under,  you will do untold damage.   Exactly what you do not want to do.

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Hah,  you got no idea, have you.

We just recruited 2 gut runners, plus a tall forward hard runner, as well as working beautifully with our new fitness/conditioning manager.  Set to be one of the better hard running sides.

 

Shorter Qtr's suit power players and quick players,  who often struggle for endurance and run out of gas during longer Qtr's.  Our advantage we setup for, has withered away this year;  and brought other young teams up a notch.

So in other words, we didn't try to fix our number one problem of bombing it long to an inept forward line, and instead brought in a type of player whereby we could bomb it in more frequently?

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Just now, MyFavouriteMartian said:

SWYL your paranoid with MfcSS.   Because you are scarred, and worried.

If you continue trying to pull this rebuild under,  you will do untold damage.   Exactly what you do not want to do.

No, i have no Paranoia at all, I have seen it all before. Go and read this website 12 years ago

We have a lot of Talent on the List

The Senior Coach has hit a brick wall

 

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

By who exactly.?

Adam Simpson and the Meth Coke Box ? 

Preliminary Finals are Serious 

We were nowhere near it

2018 was not a great year. It was a year the Club should have learnt serious lessons

But we Celebrated over Summer

So very immature 

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6 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Hah,  you got no idea, have you.

We just recruited 2 gut runners, plus a tall forward hard runner, as well as working beautifully with our new fitness/conditioning manager.  Set to be one of the better hard running sides.

 

Shorter Qtr's suit power players and quick players,  who often struggle for endurance and run out of gas during longer Qtr's.  Our advantage we setup for, has withered away this year;  and brought other young teams up a notch.

Come clear, tell us your relationship with the Club

We should have taken Green instead of Jackson who is still a few years away.

Langdon can run but that is what wingman are meant to do, oh yeah and hit a target.

Tomlinson, already exposed for the average AFL player he is.

 

 

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9 hours ago, A F said:

I welcome the positivity in the OP but disagree with the sentiment that the midfield is the strength when the OP also acknowledges the difference between our inside 50s and the opposition's. Our midfield doesn't defend and our disorganisation is as much a coaching flaw as personnel.

AF, there is the fact that the midfield seldom 'defends' amid an opposition's forward presses.

This has occurred so frequently for a very long time - our midfielders attempt to move somewhere 'closer to our own action' (but not far enough) into interesting but ineffective attacking positions where the only contribution is the long bomb - then scramble to 'get back to the midline (usually exhausted and requiring recovery time) leaving opposition midfield sentinels to play the 'hog the ball' game, acquiring and possessing the ball, the play and the execution of relaxed scoring in their forward line.

Surely this is a coaching problem that we display far too often ... I think your assessment is spot on!

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3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Adam Simpson and the Meth Coke Box ? 

Preliminary Finals are Serious 

We were nowhere near it

2018 was not a great year. It was a year the Club should have learnt serious lessons

But we Celebrated over Summer

So very immature 

And didn't review the game!

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I took a bit of time & had a good look at the team & the experience out there                        

Backline:

S May  - 2019 - 8 games .-2020- 3                
Lever - 2019- 8 (not all played with May) 2020 3   
Smith -2017.3 2018-9 2019-0 2020 -3                        
Rivers -3                                                                          
Lockhart -2019 12 2020 - 2                                          
J Harmes- playing in new position ....

E Langdon & Tomlinson ...3 games

 M Hannan - 2019 6 games - 2020 1                        
J Melksham -2019 12 games    2020 3                    
Vandenberg -2019 -0 games   2020 - 1                    
Pickett - 2

So 11 players have played very little football or had a severely impacted 2019. So yes we had an excellent pre season & now have 40 fit players. However how can you possibly expect a team to run out & be slick & polished when they HAVE to build confidence in each other & under game day conditions. Anyone who says they didn’t have a crack must obviously have watched another game.  The team is vastly different than 2018 but I believe it will be a lot better! The coaches have to find the best team ...no proper VFL games to trial players but they also have to get games into all these players who are either new or have been injured. So why don’t we cool our jets & get a bit positive because it will turn. I definitely thought May & Lever looked better & Tom McDonalds game was also a definite improvement. He also only played 15 games last year.  We all know how life has affected us ... footballers are people too ! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

So in other words, we didn't try to fix our number one problem of bombing it long to an inept forward line, and instead brought in a type of player whereby we could bomb it in more frequently?

We brought in a type of player who will run 2 way running.

Because our young Mids cannot do it all, and are spoilt.  Never being challenged for their place in the team since they arrived, because we had no one else to play instead of them.

Our young Mids only now, are starting to do a bit more on defensive side.

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

We brought in a type of player who will run 2 way running.

Because our young Mids cannot do it all, and are spoilt.  Never being challenged for their place in the team since they arrived, because we had no one else to play instead of them.

Our young Mids only now, are starting to do a bit more on defensive side.

Craig Bellamey would sort out our Spoilt Mids in about 3 days

Goodwin doesn’t have the Kuhuna’s

That’s why it’s the same game every week

46 I50’s for 6 goals on a beautiful Sunny day

Just wait for some heavy rain ? 

Will we score at all??

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8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Adam Simpson and the Meth Coke Box ? 

Preliminary Finals are Serious

What, your angry and scared of what happened to us in our first prelim (2018) in how long, as we forged ahead too soon that season. Because the season panned out for us, and we caught Geelong napping.  And we pantsed them.  without HoGan.

 

Last year was,  last year;  our horror season;  and now we are starting to adapt and play kids.  This year will no doubt see a couple retire, and others soon behind them next year.

We have to play the kids now, as they show they're ready. Rivers is so far, and Pickett's doing well. atmo.

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2 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

What, your angry and scared of what happened to us in our first prelim (2018) in how long, as we forged ahead too soon that season. Because the season panned out for us, and we caught Geelong napping.  And we pantsed them.  without HoGan.

 

Last year was,  last year;  our horror season;  and now we are starting to adapt and play kids.  This year will no doubt see a couple retire, and others soon behind them next year.

We have to play the kids now, as they show they're ready. Rivers is so far, and Pickett's doing well. atmo.

Just like 2008 Round she goes

You will be regurgitating the same posts in 10 years time. 
This Club needs a Rocket up its [censored] not people tiptoeing quietly through watching miniscule progress

That was what killed Bailey’s Coaching Career 

Goodwin is in his 4th year FGS!!

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13 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

We should have taken Green instead of Jackson who is still a few years away.

We couldn't RR. because he was tied to GWS academy.

14 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Langdon can run but that is what wingman are meant to do, oh yeah and hit a target.

Langdon is a hard worker who wanted to come east to us, he's our hardest runner and a busy bee.  His kicking decisions will get better as he gets used to to his role,  and we start to get some form.

He is a benefit to the backs, where he covers plenty of ground, to and fro.

14 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Tomlinson, already exposed for the average AFL player he is.

Tomlinson played quite well, and I could see him starting to think his way thru the Cats setup.   As the game went along he got better.   He's started to think and measure his kicks, going forward.

 

How many new players are playing in RednBlue this season,  'Hff'?   How many in this weeks team.?

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6 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Last year was,  last year;  our horror season;  and now we are starting to adapt and play kids.  This year will no doubt see a couple retire, and others soon behind them next year.

We have to play the kids now, as they show they're ready. Rivers is so far, and Pickett's doing well. atmo.

 

I could have sworn we had at least half of 2019 to start to adapt. Don't tell me we just blindly kept forging on with the same one dimensional game plan whose counter was fully understood by all the other clubs?

 

Oh well. I suppose we must start sometime. Maybe this week?

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Just like 2008 Round she goes

You will be regurgitating the same posts in 10 years time. 
This Club needs a Rocket up its [censored] not people tiptoeing quietly through watching miniscule progress

That was what killed Bailey’s Coaching Career 

Goodwin is in his 4th year FGS!!

Now you stopped arguing the points and started to play the postor instead.

 

Rockets...  you don't think TMc got one in the rooms Re his lack of aggression,  before he came out and smashed into Tom Stewart.?

 

SWYL, you are doing THE exact thing you want the team to stop doing.  You've lost your composure,  and have been taken over by MfcSS.

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6 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

 

I could have sworn we had at least half of 2019 to start to adapt. Don't tell me we just blindly kept forging on with the same one dimensional game plan whose counter was fully understood by all the other clubs?

 

Oh well. I suppose we must start sometime. Maybe this week?

What a weak argument that is;  we all know how bad last season was,  and its was a right-off.   BUT, we recruited exceptionally well,  in spite of the season that was.

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27 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

I took a bit of time & had a good look at the team & the experience out there                        

Backline:

S May  - 2019 - 8 games .-2020- 3                
Lever - 2019- 8 (not all played with May) 2020 3   
Smith -2017.3 2018-9 2019-0 2020 -3                        
Rivers -3                                                                          
Lockhart -2019 12 2020 - 2                                          
J Harmes- playing in new position ....

E Langdon & Tomlinson ...3 games

 M Hannan - 2019 6 games - 2020 1                        
J Melksham -2019 12 games    2020 3                    
Vandenberg -2019 -0 games   2020 - 1                    
Pickett - 2

So 11 players have played very little football or had a severely impacted 2019. So yes we had an excellent pre season & now have 40 fit players. However how can you possibly expect a team to run out & be slick & polished when they HAVE to build confidence in each other & under game day conditions. Anyone who says they didn’t have a crack must obviously have watched another game.  The team is vastly different than 2018 but I believe it will be a lot better! The coaches have to find the best team ...no proper VFL games to trial players but they also have to get games into all these players who are either new or have been injured. So why don’t we cool our jets & get a bit positive because it will turn. I definitely thought May & Lever looked better & Tom McDonalds game was also a definite improvement. He also only played 15 games last year.  We all know how life has affected us ... footballers are people too !

 

Exactly. 

They're learning about one another on the job.   And doing pretty well,  so far.  considering.

A couple more matches will show us more of what we have,  and where we are at.

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Now you stopped arguing the points and started to play the postor instead.

 

Rockets...  you don't think TMc got one in the rooms Re his lack of aggression,  before he came out and smashed into Tom Stewart.?

 

SWYL, you are doing THE exact thing you want the team to stop doing.  You've lost your composure,  and have been taken over by MfcSS.

Go Away

Enough

I am tired of your delusional ramblings

Lost my Composure. No i am merely watching a Train Crash happen again

The Aints will win a Flag and YOU will tell us all to be Patient for a little longer. Players careers will be over and you will still be waiting for them to prosper. 
 

It’s time to take the Jump. There is NO DARE in the MFC

In 2006 when i first joined Demonland the word timidity was used often. Guess what...it’s still relevent today

14 years later.....

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I agree with you spalding. 
I suggest after a loss have a “Vent” thread and another for analysis of the game. Reading all that “sack the coach”, moaning and groaning is very boring. 

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2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Go Away

Enough

I am tired of your delusional ramblings

Lost my Composure. No i am merely watching a Train Crash happen again

The Aints will win a Flag and YOU will tell us all to be Patient for a little longer. Players careers will be over and you will still be waiting for them to prosper. 
 

It’s time to take the Jump. There is NO DARE in the MFC

In 2006 when i first joined Demonland the word timidity was used often. Guess what...it’s still relevent today

14 years later.....

So when you say “take the jump” can I assume that means sack Goodwin now? Who would you replace him with? 

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20 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

We couldn't RR. because he was tied to GWS academy.

Langdon is a hard worker who wanted to come east to us, he's our hardest runner and a busy bee.  His kicking decisions will get better as he gets used to to his role,  and we start to get some form.

He is a benefit to the backs, where he covers plenty of ground, to and fro.

Tomlinson played quite well, and I could see him starting to think his way thru the Cats setup.   As the game went along he got better.   He's started to think and measure his kicks, going forward.

 

How many new players are playing in RednBlue this season,  'Hff'?   How many in this weeks team.?

You didnt address the question of your relationship to the Club. We could have taken Green

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1 minute ago, spalding said:

So when you say “take the jump” can I assume that means sack Goodwin now? Who would you replace him with? 

Should have been Ratten, but it’s too late now

I would be into Clarkson quietly to move next year,  

Give him a real challenge 

failing that R Lyon or Worsfold

Simon will be a good Assistant, but Senior Coaching is not his thing

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7 minutes ago, KLV said:

I agree with you spalding. 
I suggest after a loss have a “Vent” thread and another for analysis of the game. Reading all that “sack the coach”, moaning and groaning is very boring. 

I'd concur @KLV

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