24 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Simple don't carry Vanders and Hannan Bennell is twice the player they are. I'd still play Brown he's kicked 10 goals in 3 games We are crying out for goal kickers and he is a goal kicker must replace Melksham. Bennell to replace Hannan and hopefully Jackson to replace Vanders.

Hell.i thought Hannan was good, first match back. Hunt was awful.

A detailed report on the scratch match with Geelong would be great!! Goals fine to see, but don't tell the complete story...

What was the final score? How strong was the Geelong team?

How did the forwards go and what calibre of inside 50 deliveries were coming in? How did the back line go - Jetta especially given he was left out of the 1s.

Who is pushing for selection to take on and beat the Tigers?

 

 

 

Things are getting really tough now. We're told scores weren't kept and Geelong still won the game. Presumably on the basis of a coin toss or rock, paper scissors.

11 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Things are getting really tough now. We're told scores weren't kept and Geelong still won the game. Presumably on the basis of a coin toss or rock, paper scissors.

rochambeau! 

“Oscar McDonald was outstanding – he was clearly best on ground for us."

Our reserves didn't do so good so I would replace Vanders with Jones and Melksham with Bennell.

At what point does the club consider converting Weideman to a tall defender? Currently in his 5th or 6th year, as a forward he appears to be behind Jackson and adjacent to the aged and one-dimensional Brown.

He is a confidence player with no confidence and little trade value. Flip him back - what have we got to lose?

Edited June 30, 20204 yr by Left Field

27 minutes ago, Left Field said:

At what point does the club consider converting Weideman to a tall defender? Currently in his 5th or 6th year, as a forward he appears to be behind Jackson and adjacent to the aged and one-dimensional Brown.

He is a confidence player with no confidence and little trade value. Flip him back - what have we got to lose?

The treatment of Weideman astounds me this year just leaves you gob smacked. Since he was re signed last year he hardly played last year as he was injured and this Year without playing a proper reserves game he cannot even get to be an emergency in a team that cannot score. Amazing

On 6/29/2020 at 9:46 PM, nosoupforme said:

The Weid must play alongside TMac.  It is the time to bring them together. 

Omac is needed to help out May and Lever. That would leave Lever to become our sweeper. The position he plays best.

Jones has plenty of good footy left and is a leader. He will give his all. 

A good time to have them back. They all can play the game well on their day.

 

100% agree with this, though I wouldn't bring Jones back mainly because I think we are making too many changes week to week.

Oscar should have one role, lock down the oppositions best key tall. This week it will be Tom Lynch. This then allows May to take Reiwoldt and Lever to be the sweeper and intercept marker. I would drop Smith for him, but no slight on Smith it is just better for team balance.

Weideman to come in for Melksham who is way out of form atm. TMac to roam more up on the wings and CHF, Weid to play out of the goal square and 2nd ruck.

I'd give Vanders and Hannan another week, but depending on form obviously Bennell and Jones are possibilities to come in.

Geelong FC has Player by Player review across the 18 players from the scratch match. Different approach. 

24 minutes ago, old dee said:

The treatment of Weideman astounds me this year just leaves you gob smacked. Since he was re signed last year he hardly played last year as he was injured and this Year without playing a proper reserves game he cannot even get to be an emergency in a team that cannot score. Amazing

Plapp said in the zoom call that he is still refining his game, is in a good head space, and is ready to go when called on.  They are taking a longer term view and know that big players can take longer to develop, but there does not seem to be the angst in the club that people are expressing here.  I think there is a place for him in the team, especially standard length games.  Shorter games might be the straw holding him out.

OMAC clearly best on.  Perhaps a signal that they want two tall defenders for Lynch and Riewoldt?  Jones and Jetta could easily slot back in - it just depends how much the club wants the playing group to consistently play together.  Vanders was rusty and Bennell looked like a smooth mover in the scratch match, so an easy exchange if they want to...

26 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Geelong FC has Player by Player review across the 18 players from the scratch match. Different approach. 

They also didn't have any video and we did. Reckon our media dept is doing a great job this year.

37 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

100% agree with this, though I wouldn't bring Jones back mainly because I think we are making too many changes week to week.

Oscar should have one role, lock down the oppositions best key tall. This week it will be Tom Lynch. This then allows May to take Reiwoldt and Lever to be the sweeper and intercept marker. I would drop Smith for him, but no slight on Smith it is just better for team balance.

Weideman to come in for Melksham who is way out of form atm. TMac to roam more up on the wings and CHF, Weid to play out of the goal square and 2nd ruck.

I'd give Vanders and Hannan another week, but depending on form obviously Bennell and Jones are possibilities to come in.

You'll get smashed on here for suggesting OMac, but I completely agree, and really think it should be a horses for courses policy with him and Smith all year. With 2 big strong Omac gets to stand the deepest while May can go the other, allowing Lever to he does best. Smith is great athletically, so is better suited to teams that play with a medium sized 2nd tall, or alternatively he's kept in and someone like Lockhart or Rivers is dropped, and Smith goes to Dusty everytime he goes forward (he did a pretty good job keeping Danger quiet when he went forward).

49 minutes ago, old dee said:

The treatment of Weideman astounds me this year just leaves you gob smacked. Since he was re signed last year he hardly played last year as he was injured and this Year without playing a proper reserves game he cannot even get to be an emergency in a team that cannot score. Amazing

Weideman needs to hold his marks when he gets two hands to the ball and clunk them. And then kick straight. Not only will this be the difference in him becoming a genuine AFL player, but it has the potential to completely transform our side. Until he does this consistently, he will not be in our best 22 players. That's not to say Weideman should not be picked for structural and/or development reasons, because he has certainly shown potential.

Weideman won't get a better opportunity than at MFC given how desperately we need a key forward to stand up. He should look at how Casboult is playing for Carlton.

I think the shorter games have also meant that the need for a second ruckman is reduced. Also TMac and Tomlinson are both able to play a large percentage of the game. These factors have brought a rethink about how the team needs to be structured.

4 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Weideman needs to hold his marks when he gets two hands to the ball and clunk them. And then kick straight. Not only will this be the difference in him becoming a genuine AFL player, but it has the potential to completely transform our side. Until he does this consistently, he will not be in our best 22 players. That's not to say Weideman should not be picked for structural and/or development reasons, because he has certainly shown potential.

Weideman won't get a better opportunity than at MFC given how desperately we need a key forward to stand up. He should look at how Casboult is playing for Carlton.

I think the shorter games have also meant that the need for a second ruckman is reduced. Also TMac and Tomlinson are both able to play a large percentage of the game. These factors have brought a rethink about how the team needs to be structured.

Well it ain't working FT we are hopeless going forward.

hardly a real scratch match

14 a side on a full size ground, them with 4 interchange, us with none

not sure what you learn from this

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hardly a real scratch match

14 a side on a full size ground, them with 4 interchange, us with none

not sure what you learn from this

And what happens when a few injuries happen.

Copped a touch up from Geelongs seconds ?

It’s not all about high draft picks...

6 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hardly a real scratch match

14 a side on a full size ground, them with 4 interchange, us with none

not sure what you learn from this

Why did we only have 14? We have 4 long term injured so have about 40 available. Of the 18 reserves did we have 4 emergencies for the ones? 

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Why did we only have 14? We have 4 long term injured so have about 40 available. Of the 18 reserves did we have 4 emergencies for the ones? 

no idea, good question. maybe more mystery injuries?