CHANGES: Rd 05 vs Richmond

[Lord Nev 13,512]

54 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

He needs a run at it

He can do that in the scratch match then like some of the other players.

No more special treatment at the selection table.

[TheJam 23]

12 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

One can only assume you are a fairly new supporter to  the  Dees or another of the plants that feature here to defend the decisions of the Club

Assumptions lead to confusion and you sir are very confused. I’m 43, demons supporter since the age of 5. Played and coached football at a high level but I am a plant.... The runner is coming out mate, no more flank,  you’re gonna have to don the red vest and ice up after that effort.  But hey let’s keep keyboard bashing the boys and the club because last time I checked that wins flags.

[TheJam 23]

23 hours ago, old dee said:

33% winning rate  won't get it done T J. 2 and four at the half way mark and we are dead for another season. Please tell me  how this forward line is going to consistently kick winning scores?

By spending more time on the park together. Hannan and Pickett basically new to this forward line. Fritta has been freshly added too. T-Mac needs confidence. Has shown he has what it takes.  Personally I would have weidemann in there. It needs to be setttled. Way too many changes. Not many teams can claim a potent forward line this year yet the critics seem to be harsher.

[TheJam 23]

10 hours ago, old dee said:

Stop trying to turn players into something that are not.

Smith is a forward play him as one 

Harmes is a good middle fielder not a HB.

TMac is a high half forward or CHB not a deep FF.
 Bailey is not a KPF. Play him where he plays best as a HF.

Hannah is a VFL talent that’s  why he was not on the Dogs list reserves for him no consistency.

Play Weideman as a key forward for the next month if does not fire we will know he is a bust. He ain’t a Ruckman. 

 

 

 

Lever isn’t a key position back man either. He played his best football as a third defender. I’m still not sure on Oscar but i think what you may lose bringing him in you will gain it back plus more having lever floating. Wasted In my opinion 

Edited June 30, 2020 by TheJam

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

2 hours ago, one_demon said:

Is it time to put Tomlinson at full forward?  Not convinced he's a wingman.

leading metres gained for us last game??!?

the notion of shifting him around from the role we brought him in as a free agent to play is one i don't understand at all

it's like those suggesting we play may forward...why? by that logic o mac has to come in as a key defender; i'd rather may take that role and we find someone else who can play as a tall up forward...and i'd say no (at this stage) to smith or lever being the choices there as that trio need time to work out how to play together; it's been two games

i can completely understand the calls for weideman or brown (or jackson) to come in to play as an additional tall forward, but i don't think it's time to throw the baby out with the bathwater when we're three games into the season, and only (an interrupted) two since resumption

[loges 6,767]

13 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

One can only assume you are a fairly new supporter to  the  Dees or another of the plants that feature here to defend the decisions of the Club

Plants? Seriously?

[old dee 23,791]

15 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

leading metres gained for us last game??!?

the notion of shifting him around from the role we brought him in as a free agent to play is one i don't understand at all

it's like those suggesting we play may forward...why? by that logic o mac has to come in as a key defender; i'd rather may take that role and we find someone else who can play as a tall up forward...and i'd say no (at this stage) to smith or lever being the choices there as that trio need time to work out how to play together; it's been two games

i can completely understand the calls for weideman or brown (or jackson) to come in to play as an additional tall forward, but i don't think it's time to throw the baby out with the bathwater when we're three games into the season, and only (an interrupted) two since resumption

Problem is there is only 9 games to go. Short season does not give them time to mess about. 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

36 minutes ago, TheJam said:

Assumptions lead to confusion and you sir are very confused. I’m 43, demons supporter since the age of 5. Played and coached football at a high level but I am a plant.... The runner is coming out mate, no more flank,  you’re gonna have to don the red vest and ice up after that effort.  But hey let’s keep keyboard bashing the boys and the club because last time I checked that wins flags.

Confused. Mmmm. We were 17th  last year, six years into a plan after finishing seventeenth twice in a row. Listened to your mob on here try to convince others it was all down to injuries, interupted pre season, poor fitness bloke, lack of support for Goody, Goody is still learning and more. As a top level coach you would know Sunday was a perfect footy day, full and fit list to choose from. Coach and Captain had told us the previous games errors were easy to fix.  So yes I am confused that you see a forum where we can discuss a range of issues as keyboard bashing. 

[TheJam 23]

13 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Confused. Mmmm. We were 17th  last year, six years into a plan after finishing seventeenth twice in a row. Listened to your mob on here try to convince others it was all down to injuries, interupted pre season, poor fitness bloke, lack of support for Goody, Goody is still learning and more. As a top level coach you would know Sunday was a perfect footy day, full and fit list to choose from. Coach and Captain had told us the previous games errors were easy to fix.  So yes I am confused that you see a forum where we can discuss a range of issues as keyboard bashing. 

My mob? The fact is almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion yet they feed off others negativity. That’s keyboard bashing. A fit list? After what 3 weeks makeshift pre season yet we all expect big things... I’m not sure you’re grasping the complexities that come with this season let alone the changes us as a club has had to deal with already through no fault of our own. Several weeks off, one game then bang, an unexpected bye.. then we are meant to come out and set the world on fire? As I mentioned earlier. We played terribly and should’ve won with that last kick. Take from that what u like... some see positives. Others choose not too.

Edited June 30, 2020 by TheJam

[Half forward flank 1,022]

8 minutes ago, TheJam said:

My mob? The fact is almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion yet they feed off others negativity. That’s keyboard bashing. A fit list? After what 3 weeks makeshift pre season yet we all expect big things... I’m not sure you’re grasping the complexities that come with this season let alone the changes us as a club has had to deal with already through no fault of our own. Several weeks off, one game then bang, an unexpected bye.. then we are meant to come out and set the world on fire? As I mentioned earlier. We played terribly and should’ve won with that last kick. Take from that what u like... some see positives. Others choose not too.

almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion.  Back where we started. a club plant.

[Docs Demons 1,791]

Get back on topic please

[Coq au vin 755]

12 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

leading metres gained for us last game??!?

the notion of shifting him around from the role we brought him in as a free agent to play is one i don't understand at all

it's like those suggesting we play may forward...why? by that logic o mac has to come in as a key defender; i'd rather may take that role and we find someone else who can play as a tall up forward...and i'd say no (at this stage) to smith or lever being the choices there as that trio need time to work out how to play together; it's been two games

i can completely understand the calls for weideman or brown (or jackson) to come in to play as an additional tall forward, but i don't think it's time to throw the baby out with the bathwater when we're three games into the season, and only (an interrupted) two since resumption

We’re 25 games into a poor game plan with no effective forwards.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

12 hours ago, old dee said:

Problem is there is only 9 games to go. Short season does not give them time to mess about. 

9 to go? We've played 3 of 17 (more if we make finals), although I accept that the season may yet be shortened.

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12 hours ago, loges said:

Plants? Seriously?

Turnips

[Coq au vin 755]

15 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Never thought i would say this but i would bring in No-Mac for Melk.  Melk is totally ineffective up forward at the moment.  If i was Goody i would play him through the middle to get him involved and try and find some touch/confidence.  But i dont think we have the luxury this week given our 1-2 record.

No-Mac replaces May who goes forward for an experimental stint over the next 3 weeks as a surprise packet / foil, or maybe better, for T-Mac.   See TomaHawk & Pods during Geelong's latter golden era.  Unlikely but i'd like to see this trialled for a few weeks just to see what those two (T-Mac & May) might bring playing up forward.

May has been super solid down back but i reckon No-Mac could be given one more go to try and cover off the usual May role / go to opponent for the sake of the team in an attempt to solve our forward issues.

Not convinced either of Weid or Brown will bring it at this point.  They could come in if the May experiment fails.

Feel free to commence rants and hammering of this zany idea....now...

Absolutely agree with you!

[Deemania since 56 6,639]

23 hours ago, old dee said:

Stop trying to turn players into something that are not.

Smith is a forward play him as one 

Harmes is a good middle fielder not a HB.

TMac is a high half forward or CHB not a deep FF.
 Bailey is not a KPF. Play him where he plays best as a HF.

Rather simple, isn't it? We all seem to know; Goodwin and now,  FD Company, seem to ignore these apt qualities of our players. De-stabilisation of the team is occurring, with players like Lever, Hibberd, Salem, Melksham, Tomlinson and perhaps a few others contributing to this disarray. Again, it is a coaching issue and for the life of us all, affects our performances. Out of slot, out of kilter, out of time.

[Older demon 2,741]

On 6/30/2020 at 12:05 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

No we didn't.

Sorry got it wrong! It was Carlton that bid

[TheJam 23]

13 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion.  Back where we started. a club plant.

A club plant bahahaha. Anyone who isn’t in the coaching group or within the club actually has little information on our actual structures and roles or did u just inherent them? Just because people watch games it does not make them experts.

 

regards,

plant

Edited July 1, 2020 by TheJam

[Half forward flank 1,022]

15 minutes ago, TheJam said:

A club plant bahahaha. Anyone who isn’t in the coaching group or within the club actually has little information on our actual structures and roles or did u just inherent them? Just because people watch games it does not make them experts.

 

regards,

plant

All good The Jam/plant. Genuinely interested in how our forward line should look this week. Over to you coach.

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

14 hours ago, old dee said:

Problem is there is only 9 games to go. Short season does not give them time to mess about. 

where on earth did the other games go? pretty sure we've played 3 in a 17 game season...

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

14 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion.  Back where we started. a club plant.

Just to be clear, you think that the club is spending time and money on random online forums to argue with fans too narrow minded to listen to any opinion that doesn't match their own?

[In Harmes Way 7,783]

14 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

almost everyone on here has an ill informed opinion.  Back where we started. a club plant.

Just like every breakup HFF - It's not you. It's me.

Time to remember how to setup ignore.

[drysdale demon 4,836]

14 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

  Back where we started. a club plant.

Your being silly, there are a lot of posters on here that don't bash the club at every opportunity, I wouldn't think the club would waste any time with placing plants into supporter forums. But if hysterics turn you on then keep at it.

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

where on earth did the other games go? pretty sure we've played 3 in a 17 game season...

In Old dees defence it does seem that this season has been going for months.

Heard a great comment yesterday...."Well one good thing is that the year is now officially half over."

Edited July 1, 2020 by Diamond_Jim

[old dee 23,791]

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

9 to go? We've played 3 of 17 (more if we make finals), although I accept that the season may yet be shortened.

I thought it was already down to 12? No?