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Team Forwards Coach
Adelaide Ben Hart
Brisbane Jed Adcock
Carlton Cameron Bruce
Collingwood Brenton Sanderson
Essendon Dan Jordan
Fremantle David Hale
Geelong James Rahilly
Gold coast Ashely Prescott
Greater Western Sydney Brad Miller
Hawthorn Scott Burns
Melbourne  
North Melbourne Brendan Whitecross
Port Adelaide Nathan Bassett
Richmond Craig McRae
St Kilda Brendon Lade
Sydney Steve Johnson
West Coast Jaymie Graham
Western Bulldogs Ashley Hansen
   
Source: Wikipedia as @ June 2020
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    gee why arent I surprised

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    I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

    Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

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    1 minute ago, pewpewpew said:

    I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

    Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

    You are correct. It was announced at the Members Information Night.

    https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/307842/goal-kicking-coach-among-football-department-changes

    In an exciting move for the club, ruck coach Greg Stafford will be adding to his role, taking on the responsibility of improving the Demons’ accuracy in front of the sticks.

    General Manager of Football Operations Josh Mahoney said after a formal interview process, Stafford was the standout candidate for the added duties.

    “A key area we identified as we went through our coaching department was the role of a goalkicking coach,” he told Melbourne Media.

    “Whilst that responsibility has sat with several of our coaches in the past, we felt that it needed to have a specific person to own it and to run it.

    “After speaking to a number of different people in the off-season about what the best programs are, and interviewing a number of different people, we’ve welcomed Greg into that role.”

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    This clearly hasnt worked

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    3 minutes ago, pewpewpew said:

    I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

    Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

    However that is just for goal kicking. He's not the Forward coach. Forward craft, leading and positioning should be tasked to someone with experience and runs on the board in that department. I'm surprised we don't have that covered when it is perhaps now one of our biggest deficiencies.

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    The OP explains the last few years ?

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    15 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Forward craft, leading and positioning should be tasked to someone with experience and runs on the board in that department.

    I agree, but half of those on the list above didn't even play as forwards.

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    4 hours ago, Kent said:

    gee why arent I surprised

     

    4 hours ago, Kent said:

    This clearly hasnt worked

    We haven't even played a game yet with the current coaching structure and you're already potting it.

    All clubs had to move on assistants and then make decisions as to how they would use their resources.

    We did have an assigned forwards coach by the way.

    Was it his fault, the mids coach or Goody that we kept bombing the ball in.

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    Gidday rjay,

    I'm not potting the coaching structure, I'm just sharing a factual observation.

    If it was as simple as the number of coaches you had per line - why stop at one?

    Quality is the key and I agree that a big part of an effective inside fifty is just as much to do with the mid-fielders as the forwards.

    With the prospect a reduced coaching rosters (along with all other areas of the club) Melbourne like all other clubs will have to think very hard about how they apply their human capital in the years to come.

    Anyway, can't type now - the game is about to begin - Go Dees!

     

     

     

     

     

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    3 minutes ago, Blind_turn said:

    Gidday rjay,

    I'm not potting the coaching structure, I'm just sharing a factual observation.

    If it was as simple as the number of coaches you had per line - why stop at one?

    Quality is the key and I agree that a big part of an effective inside fifty is just as much to do with the mid-fielders as the forwards.

    With the prospect a reduced coaching rosters (along with all other areas of the club) Melbourne like all other clubs will have to think very hard about how they apply their human capital in the years to come.

    Anyway, can't type now - the game is about to begin - Go Dees!

     

     

     

     

     

    Not knocking your post 'Blind'...it just states the facts.

    It's how 'Kent' is interpreting them.

    Have a great day...please.

    We all need it.

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    1 hour ago, rjay said:

     

    We haven't even played a game yet with the current coaching structure and you're already potting it.

    All clubs had to move on assistants and then make decisions as to how they would use their resources.

    We did have an assigned forwards coach by the way.

    Was it his fault, the mids coach or Goody that we kept bombing the ball in.

    I watched our round 1 game recently and interesting comments from Gerard Healey and Pav as we continually bombed the ball long to McGovern and Barass was the real problem was the mid field bombing long while the forwards were leading out leaving West Coast to mark unopposed! This went on all game, so the forward line strategy hasn’t been communicated to the mid? Or if the mids are under pressure don’t you alter the forward tactics and leave a tall in the goal square to compete? Today will be interesting to see if the disconnect has been rectified. 

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    2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Surely W.Carey could spare 30 minutes a week 

    He would spend that entire 30 mins giving the umpires a spray.

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    3 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

    I watched our round 1 game recently and interesting comments from Gerard Healey and Pav as we continually bombed the ball long to McGovern and Barass was the real problem was the mid field bombing long while the forwards were leading out leaving West Coast to mark unopposed! This went on all game, so the forward line strategy hasn’t been communicated to the mid? Or if the mids are under pressure don’t you alter the forward tactics and leave a tall in the goal square to compete? Today will be interesting to see if the disconnect has been rectified. 

    By the disconnect you mean...

    1. As a midfielder if you have the ball, make sure you look at what is happening in the forwardline
    2. and if you see a player leading, kick the ball to the front of them
    3. also don't constantly go for 'metres gained'

     

    because the only other interpretation is the Weideman, and TMAC must absolutely annihilate all and sundry in training as it seems as though there is a view as a midfielder, 'I can kick it anywhere in the 50 - and they'll have it covered'.

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    I swear I thought Justin Plapp was our forwards coach? Think back to Hell and Back when he was coaching Pickett.

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    3 hours ago, Demonland said:

    Closer to home I'd get on the phone to Brad Green.

    D. Neitz would be my call 

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    12 hours ago, GCDee said:

    D. Neitz would be my call 

    For set shots green never missed inside the 50, neitz had somedays he could not kick straight.

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    7 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

    For set shots green never missed inside the 50, neitz had somedays he could not kick straight.

    I liked that even when Neitz had his off days where he couldn't clunk a thing, he'd still halve every contest and hit a pack with ferocity. TMAC needs to in the least, be that imposing if he's not taking them. @GCDee a TMac mentor at least, get him down there a few days a month!

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    19 hours ago, Demonland said:

    Closer to home I'd get on the phone to Brad Green.

     

    15 hours ago, GCDee said:

    D. Neitz would be my call 

    I think Yze would be the in-house go to.

    Even tho he's with the Hawks.   He would be the best to effect co-hesion,  between our midfield and hitting up the forwards.

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