Melbourne the odd one out?

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Team	Forwards Coach
Adelaide	Ben Hart
Brisbane	Jed Adcock
Carlton	Cameron Bruce
Collingwood	Brenton Sanderson
Essendon	Dan Jordan
Fremantle	David Hale
Geelong	James Rahilly
Gold coast	Ashely Prescott
Greater Western Sydney	Brad Miller
Hawthorn	Scott Burns
Melbourne
North Melbourne	Brendan Whitecross
Port Adelaide	Nathan Bassett
Richmond	Craig McRae
St Kilda	Brendon Lade
Sydney	Steve Johnson
West Coast	Jaymie Graham
Western Bulldogs	Ashley Hansen
Source: Wikipedia as @ June 2020

[Kent 2,914]

gee why arent I surprised

[pewpewpew 738]

I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

[Demonland 73,140]

1 minute ago, pewpewpew said:

I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

You are correct. It was announced at the Members Information Night.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/307842/goal-kicking-coach-among-football-department-changes

In an exciting move for the club, ruck coach Greg Stafford will be adding to his role, taking on the responsibility of improving the Demons’ accuracy in front of the sticks.

General Manager of Football Operations Josh Mahoney said after a formal interview process, Stafford was the standout candidate for the added duties.

“A key area we identified as we went through our coaching department was the role of a goalkicking coach,” he told Melbourne Media.

“Whilst that responsibility has sat with several of our coaches in the past, we felt that it needed to have a specific person to own it and to run it.

“After speaking to a number of different people in the off-season about what the best programs are, and interviewing a number of different people, we’ve welcomed Greg into that role.”

[Kent 2,914]

This clearly hasnt worked

[Demonland 73,140]

3 minutes ago, pewpewpew said:

I thought I read that our ruck coach Greg Stafford was also our goal kicking coach.

Greg kicked 141 Goals and 66 Behinds in 204 Games.

However that is just for goal kicking. He's not the Forward coach. Forward craft, leading and positioning should be tasked to someone with experience and runs on the board in that department. I'm surprised we don't have that covered when it is perhaps now one of our biggest deficiencies.

[Lord Travis 10,763]

The OP explains the last few years ?

[Demonstone 22,815]

15 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Forward craft, leading and positioning should be tasked to someone with experience and runs on the board in that department.

I agree, but half of those on the list above didn't even play as forwards.

[whatwhat say what 22,945]

the amount of defenders and ruckmen who are 'forward coaches' is...interesting

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

Surely W.Carey could spare 30 minutes a week 

[rjay 25,088]

4 hours ago, Kent said:

gee why arent I surprised

 

4 hours ago, Kent said:

This clearly hasnt worked

We haven't even played a game yet with the current coaching structure and you're already potting it.

All clubs had to move on assistants and then make decisions as to how they would use their resources.

We did have an assigned forwards coach by the way.

Was it his fault, the mids coach or Goody that we kept bombing the ball in.

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Gidday rjay,

I'm not potting the coaching structure, I'm just sharing a factual observation.

If it was as simple as the number of coaches you had per line - why stop at one?

Quality is the key and I agree that a big part of an effective inside fifty is just as much to do with the mid-fielders as the forwards.

With the prospect a reduced coaching rosters (along with all other areas of the club) Melbourne like all other clubs will have to think very hard about how they apply their human capital in the years to come.

Anyway, can't type now - the game is about to begin - Go Dees!

 

 

 

 

 

[rjay 25,088]

3 minutes ago, Blind_turn said:

Gidday rjay,

I'm not potting the coaching structure, I'm just sharing a factual observation.

If it was as simple as the number of coaches you had per line - why stop at one?

Quality is the key and I agree that a big part of an effective inside fifty is just as much to do with the mid-fielders as the forwards.

With the prospect a reduced coaching rosters (along with all other areas of the club) Melbourne like all other clubs will have to think very hard about how they apply their human capital in the years to come.

Anyway, can't type now - the game is about to begin - Go Dees!

 

 

 

 

 

Not knocking your post 'Blind'...it just states the facts.

It's how 'Kent' is interpreting them.

Have a great day...please.

We all need it.

[Earl Hood 6,101]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

 

We haven't even played a game yet with the current coaching structure and you're already potting it.

All clubs had to move on assistants and then make decisions as to how they would use their resources.

We did have an assigned forwards coach by the way.

Was it his fault, the mids coach or Goody that we kept bombing the ball in.

I watched our round 1 game recently and interesting comments from Gerard Healey and Pav as we continually bombed the ball long to McGovern and Barass was the real problem was the mid field bombing long while the forwards were leading out leaving West Coast to mark unopposed! This went on all game, so the forward line strategy hasn’t been communicated to the mid? Or if the mids are under pressure don’t you alter the forward tactics and leave a tall in the goal square to compete? Today will be interesting to see if the disconnect has been rectified. 

[Demonland 73,140]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Surely W.Carey could spare 30 minutes a week 

Closer to home I'd get on the phone to Brad Green.

[ding 5,126]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Surely W.Carey could spare 30 minutes a week 

He would spend that entire 30 mins giving the umpires a spray.

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

3 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I watched our round 1 game recently and interesting comments from Gerard Healey and Pav as we continually bombed the ball long to McGovern and Barass was the real problem was the mid field bombing long while the forwards were leading out leaving West Coast to mark unopposed! This went on all game, so the forward line strategy hasn’t been communicated to the mid? Or if the mids are under pressure don’t you alter the forward tactics and leave a tall in the goal square to compete? Today will be interesting to see if the disconnect has been rectified. 

By the disconnect you mean...

1. As a midfielder if you have the ball, make sure you look at what is happening in the forwardline
2. and if you see a player leading, kick the ball to the front of them
3. also don't constantly go for 'metres gained'

 

because the only other interpretation is the Weideman, and TMAC must absolutely annihilate all and sundry in training as it seems as though there is a view as a midfielder, 'I can kick it anywhere in the 50 - and they'll have it covered'.

Edited June 13, 2020 by Engorged Onion

[dazzledavey36 55,333]

I swear I thought Justin Plapp was our forwards coach? Think back to Hell and Back when he was coaching Pickett.

[GCDee 3,199]

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

Closer to home I'd get on the phone to Brad Green.

D. Neitz would be my call 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

12 hours ago, GCDee said:

D. Neitz would be my call 

For set shots green never missed inside the 50, neitz had somedays he could not kick straight.

[John Demonic 5,850]

7 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

For set shots green never missed inside the 50, neitz had somedays he could not kick straight.

I liked that even when Neitz had his off days where he couldn't clunk a thing, he'd still halve every contest and hit a pack with ferocity. TMAC needs to in the least, be that imposing if he's not taking them. @GCDee a TMac mentor at least, get him down there a few days a month!

Edited June 13, 2020 by John Demonic

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

19 hours ago, Demonland said:

Closer to home I'd get on the phone to Brad Green.

 

15 hours ago, GCDee said:

D. Neitz would be my call 

I think Yze would be the in-house go to.

Even tho he's with the Hawks.   He would be the best to effect co-hesion,  between our midfield and hitting up the forwards.