6 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Jeremy Howe when leaving Melbourne to go to Collingwood. " Nathan has a defined role for me in the Collingwood forward line.

Funny roos made him a defender, but Buckley got the credit for turning him  into defender from the media, as if he never played there before

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So next time I see Lever or Gawn drop marks or duck their heads i will know for a fact they absolutely hate playing in their currents positions.

Wow. Now your being so ridiculous, for a real footy lover, your showing a level of tribal nonsensical gibberish, that I wouldn't have expected from you.  I expect a bit more balance from you normally, dd36.

41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah he does, but according to @MyFavouriteMartian Dunn was traded by Roos

I didn't say Roos traded watts, at all. I think I would have said that watts eventually lost Roos respect, but got a reprieve and a new contract, on the back of a couple of better games late in his contract year.  Roos's last year as coach.

The next year watts came back to the club in poor condition, and was straight away in the sin bin.  As he should have been, and finally traded out of this club.

Watts behaviours was a reflection of the old culture that haunted this club Prior to Roosy's efforts,  and Goody is also cleaning things up.  see Hogan.

 

That old cushy soft culture pervaded thru Danihers era, coming from around Balmes time.  

Hence why no Silverware in those periods.

18 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Took the kids to training at Casey when Howe was still with us.
The players were great with the kids with an exception.
Yep, Jeremy Howe.
Far too good to give any kid there the time of day.
Really stood out to me as a phlog.

Jack Watts and Colin Sylvia on the other hand were 1st class.

I’ve said here before, Jack and Col visit my son at royal children’s one year. They were amazing!

5 hours ago, Laughing Goat said:

Obviously MFC didnt rate Howe & that's ok I guess but he has had the last laugh.

Yep, he had the last laugh alright. Winning all those premiersh.....oh.

Well at least he has been All Australi.....hm.

....how has he had the last laugh again?  
 

His wiki page lists his career highlights as:

• Melbourne leading goalkicker: 2013
• Mark of the Year: 2012
• 22under22 team: 2012
• Harold Ball Memorial Trophy: 2011

So basically all his career highlights came while he was at Melbourne. .

28 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

I didn't say Roos traded watts, at all. I think I would have said that watts eventually lost Roos respect, but got a reprieve and a new contract, on the back of a couple of better games late in his contract year.  Roos's last year as coach.

The next year watts came back to the club in poor condition, and was straight away in the sin bin.  As he should have been, and finally traded out of this club.

Watts behaviours was a reflection of the old culture that haunted this club Prior to Roosy's efforts,  and Goody is also cleaning things up.  see Hogan.

 

That old cushy soft culture pervaded thru Danihers era, coming from around Balmes time.  

Hence why no Silverware in those periods.

Pretty fair summation there MFM

Hollywood Boulevard pervaded the Changerooms for way too long

”When close enough was good enough...”

never did trust people from dodges ferry. what sort of a name is that to live in

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pretty fair summation there MFM

Hollywood Boulevard pervaded the Changerooms for way too long

”When close enough was good enough...”

And Pre Barassi as well.

Barass an Jordan helped to clear most of it out,  but some players were to good to eject.

Northey wouldn't stand any slackers.   But the Big heads did creep back in again,  and then its not long before the place is party-central, 'again'.

22 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Bonafide AA key back you've gotta be having a laugh. Unaccountable, lazy and prone to turnovers. Refused to listen to instruction and play to team rules even under Roos and was sent packing.

Spot on. One of the most overrated players in the league. His kicking and decision making is rubbish.

12 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Well to be fair, Howe does play in front of a ' thick' crowd each week. He plays for Collingwood .

I'm pretty sure the first thing he did when he got his new contract there was to fix his teeth ...... don't know why he bothered, no one there would notice.

9 hours ago, Laughing Goat said:

Ha Ha

I found it quite amusing to be honest & let's face it, good bloke or not....he's right. We shouldn't have got rid of him in the first place & as TGR said, he's an AA when in good form.

One of the best aeralists the games ever seen, reads the play exceptionally well & a very good kick. Collingwood have shown more faith in him than we did......

A very good kick.....

 

Really?

10 hours ago, Deebymistake said:

Show him a photo of his face when Joe Daniher was awarded mark of the year in 2017.  Priceless ?

 

So I was talking to a bloke who said he catered an AFL player’s engagement party at the player’s house. Said the player had a whole lot of posters for “Mark of the year” printed up at the house that couldn’t be used.

This bloke was being a bit cryptic about the identity of the player and I just said “That would be Jeremy Howe” and the bloke was shocked I’d worked it out.

Not too hard to work through “Who probably should have won mark of the year, but comes across as dense enough to count their chickens before they hatch?”.

41 minutes ago, Lampers said:

So I was talking to a bloke who said he catered an AFL player’s engagement party at the player’s house. Said the player had a whole lot of posters for “Mark of the year” printed up at the house that couldn’t be used.

This bloke was being a bit cryptic about the identity of the player and I just said “That would be Jeremy Howe” and the bloke was shocked I’d worked it out.

Not too hard to work through “Who probably should have won mark of the year, but comes across as dense enough to count their chickens before they hatch?”.

God I hope that story is true.

5 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

A very good kick.....

 

Really?

I tend to pay more attention to former Melbourne players of course when watching games, and I think his kicking is better at Collingwood.

I keep expecting him to stuff up but he doesn’t that often, kicks flat and fast and usually hits a teammate.

I don’t know if it’s genuine skill or decision making improvement, or because he’s in the backline and all the best efficiency kickers are in the backline because so many of their kicks are sideways or backwards kicks to switch play to loose players.

17 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Jeremy Howe when leaving Melbourne to go to Collingwood. " Nathan has a defined role for me in the Collingwood forward line.

Exactly what I said only in different words... Totally agree.

He is a selfish player. Always was at MFC.............  and at the Colliewobbles team of misfits.

I have some sympathy for him because as I understand it his manager talked him out of Melbourne by talking up his price to absurd heights on the back of one query from either GC (most likely) or GWS. The chatter ran all through his last year with us so that it passed the point of no return and he had to leave, and yes, he was sold a bill of goods by Buckley with the promise of going forward which lasted about three games. And he was paid about the same as he was at Melbourne. The big dollars promised earlier never materialised.

Had he been smarter he could have been a one club player so long as we were prepared to tolerate his miskicks which were a weekly occurrence, just as they were with TMac in his time in defence. I had a chat with JH in the pre-season after he left us and told him we'd give him a good welcome. He knew exactly when that was - round four - better than I did, and seemed nervous about it. 

Now, with five years exposure to the self talk and bull of Eddie and Co he is showing the signs of all true Collingwood believers. Poor bugger. He displays no gratitude for Melbourne's role in plucking him from the obscurity of Dodge's Ferry. Let's hope we smash them for as long as JH remains there just as we did in round 4, 2016 and pull a flag as he totters into retirement.

1 minute ago, pitmaster said:

I have some sympathy for him because as I understand it his manager talked him out of Melbourne by talking up his price to absurd heights on the back of one query from either GC (most likely) or GWS. The chatter ran all through his last year with us so that it passed the point of no return and he had to leave, and yes, he was sold a bill of goods by Buckley with the promise of going forward which lasted about three games. And he was paid about the same as he was at Melbourne. The big dollars promised earlier never materialised.

Had he been smarter he could have been a one club player so long as we were prepared to tolerate his miskicks which were a weekly occurrence, just as they were with TMac in his time in defence. I had a chat with JH in the pre-season after he left us and told him we'd give him a good welcome. He knew exactly when that was - round four - better than I did, and seemed nervous about it. 

Now, with five years exposure to the self talk and bull of Eddie and Co he is showing the signs of all true Collingwood believers. Poor bugger. He displays no gratitude for Melbourne's role in plucking him from the obscurity of Dodge's Ferry. Let's hope we smash them for as long as JH remains there just as we did in round 4, 2016 and pull a flag as he totters into retirement.

So, to summarise @pitmaster: you have some sympathy for him, but he can go F@&* himself.

Love it

33 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

I have some sympathy for him because as I understand it his manager talked him out of Melbourne by talking up his price to absurd heights on the back of one query from either GC (most likely) or GWS. The chatter ran all through his last year with us so that it passed the point of no return and he had to leave, and yes, he was sold a bill of goods by Buckley with the promise of going forward which lasted about three games. And he was paid about the same as he was at Melbourne. The big dollars promised earlier never materialised.

Had he been smarter he could have been a one club player so long as we were prepared to tolerate his miskicks which were a weekly occurrence, just as they were with TMac in his time in defence. I had a chat with JH in the pre-season after he left us and told him we'd give him a good welcome. He knew exactly when that was - round four - better than I did, and seemed nervous about it. 

Now, with five years exposure to the self talk and bull of Eddie and Co he is showing the signs of all true Collingwood believers. Poor bugger. He displays no gratitude for Melbourne's role in plucking him from the obscurity of Dodge's Ferry. Let's hope we smash them for as long as JH remains there just as we did in round 4, 2016 and pull a flag as he totters into retirement.

and, iirc, he'd already been dropped to the vfl by then cos his form forward of the ball was appalling

he was always a natural defender, but he's not an all-australian calibre player; well, at least not yet

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

So, to summarise @pitmaster: you have some sympathy for him, but he can go F@&* himself.

I like to think of it as slightly more nuanced than that, but you're close. 

My position - concerning yourself with what Jeremy Howe has to say is a 3rd class first world problem.

The latest installment of Demonland/Demonland

Demonland: Melbourne are crap!

Somebody else: Melbourne are crap

Demonland: Somebody else is crap!

17 hours ago, dworship said:

I'm pretty sure the first thing he did when he got his new contract there was to fix his teeth ...... don't know why he bothered, no one there would notice.

So he Would stand out,  in that crowd.

Lets face it, Jeremy and his cousin are not among the worlds great thinkers. 

In fact I would put them on the bottom of the wisdom stakes.

But hell, Jeremy takes a great mark and Matthew has a big mouth. 

 

Jeremy plays on a tightrope every time he pulls the boots on...pretty dangerous actually. The super skill is not getting up there, but managing safely to navigate a sure path down. The danger is losing your equilibrium in that descent.