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1 minute ago, rjay said:

Still a fair way short old son.

For sure, and I'm 100% on the home base bandwagon, just think we need to realize that the lack of massive funds compared to other places is likely because we haven't put forward a feasible plan. The Yarra Park thing was a mess. I reckon we'll end up out at Casey anyway tbh.

 

They're both in the @rse end of nowhere but they generally have to be in order to find the land to build an AFL standard training facility. 

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

$9.5m as listed above.

Incorrect - $2m

I didn't include funding for 2nd grounds of other clubs (Eg. Geelong at Deakin, Richmond at Bundoora or wherever it is) so why should I include Casey?

 
1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

Good research, and looks damning...

Anything on Essendon or Western Bulldogs @Roger Mellie?

* I wouldn't know where to begin to source that info...

Essendon was $27m but not sure of the breakdown other than $4m+ from the club.

Bulldogs have $44.8m (Govt) for stage 2 redevelopment for W.O.

Go for it then, screw the Melbourne precinct. Whatever.

 

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Absolute joke.

Do the Government want to drop another $100m into Geelong so they can build statues out of gold for the likes of Duckwood, Tommy "Booger" Hawkins and Danger?

While they are at it they can build a Church outside of Kardinia Park just to top it off.

3 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Incorrect - $2m

I didn't include funding for 2nd grounds of other clubs (Eg. Geelong at Deakin, Richmond at Bundoora or wherever it is) so why should I include Casey?

Because Casey is still our major facilitated used AFL training hub. It has far more facilities than Goschs so churlishly and saltily choosing to incorrectly call Casey our No2 Training Ground is about as mature as the impatient pleas for an announcement. Doctoring the figures IOWords. 

It's been advised repeatedly by Perty  and Roffey that the issue is with the State Govt.Cttee for decision and annuncement and the stakeholders on that Cttee including MFC. That's  if we still are insisting an MCG nearby location. A number of D/Landers continually pot the delay as they themselves are running out of time to hear and may never get to enjoy this facility. 

Fair dunkum they  are like 6 yo kids yearning for their first 2 wheel bike rather than wait for the better model when they turn 8. 

After 57 years for a Flag patience is still not their virtue as they scramble for any available  land within 5/7 km of inner city  that is vacant to attempt to push their case with largely weird half baked proposals. 

Other than team selection issues they have very little to post so the whipping boys are the Training Ground executives Whose hands are well known tied. 

Next season beckons guys just hang on to your hats!

It’s amazing a few on here cannot walk and chew gum at the same time! 

 
9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Absolute joke.

Do the Government want to drop another $100m into Geelong so they can build statues out of gold for the likes of Duckwood, Tommy "Booger" Hawkins and Danger?

While they are at it they can build a Church outside of Kardinia Park just to top it off.

They should just use the allocated church space to expand the width of the ground 😛

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10 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Incorrect - $2m

I didn't include funding for 2nd grounds of other clubs (Eg. Geelong at Deakin, Richmond at Bundoora or wherever it is) so why should I include Casey?

Ummmm because it was our facilities at Casey? I mean, we've been training there, what around 80% of the time since 2020?


26 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Ummmm because it was our facilities at Casey? I mean, we've been training there, what around 80% of the time since 2020?

We trained there so much as our main training ground is inadequate. It didn't allow sufficient separation between players/staff and onlookers during Covid. The second reason we trained there so much is the ground was being resurfaced/widened until the middle of the year.

I'm comparing apples with apples but feel free to knock yourself out finding the money spent on all Vic teams second training facilities for comparison.

8 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

We trained there so much as our main training ground is inadequate. It didn't allow sufficient separation between players/staff and onlookers during Covid. The second reason we trained there so much is the ground was being resurfaced/widened until the middle of the year.

I'm comparing apples with apples but feel free to knock yourself out finding the money spent on all Vic teams second training facilities for comparison.

So it was a coincidence that we also started training there more often after millions was spent upgrading it?

Also, it's the base of our VFL, VFLW and AFLW teams, but if you think they're not part of the club then perhaps take that up with Roffey...

On 9/28/2022 at 10:16 AM, Roost it far said:

Where's Casey again? 

A bloody long way from almost everywhere Roost.  Last time i went there for the QF against the Swans it took me 40 minutes.

I reckon the alternative below should have at least been looked at / considered at some stage in the last five years.  Only 17 minutes from where i am (pretty central Melb) via Monash (no tolls) and much more gettable distance wise for many more Demons in Melb metro.

Just off the Eastlink as well for those up north and in the western burbs.  A short meander down North/Wellington Road for those coming from the Sth or Sth East.

Heaps of space out there to develop facilities as well.  Two ovals and plenty of parkland.

Might have also got the Rowville Hawks renamed the Demons.  Sweet coup!

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49 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Just noticed Adelaide hoping for a change of training facilities, $75 million. 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-24/adelaide-crows-names-thebarton-oval-as-new-home-ground/101366038

Feeling jealous

 

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Makes you sick. We are the only club in this position, while other clubs are getting upgrades of upgrades. It’s actually a joke

On 9/29/2022 at 11:38 PM, layzie said:

Go for it then, screw the Melbourne precinct. Whatever.

 

That is IMO the only way anything will happen in the medium term  

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

That is IMO the only way anything will happen in the medium term  

This is what I don’t get with our current boards thinking. Surely having something really good in the middle of nowhere is better than nothing in a really nice locale. 

6 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

This is what I don’t get with our current boards thinking. Surely having something really good in the middle of nowhere is better than nothing in a really nice locale. 

You have to remember we are an old conservative club. A large number can only think MCG. A number including the board can only think that way no matter what the problems.

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18 minutes ago, old dee said:

You have to remember we are an old conservative club. A large number can only think MCG. A number including the board can only think that way no matter what the problems.

I no longer care about MCG precinct, but the facility had to be in the inner city, in an area that is accessible by public transport. Our AFLW team play in front of 2 dogs and cat out at Casey. Look at Punt Road and wht it offers VFL and AFLW supporters. Look at Collingwood and the crowds they pull into Vic Park. I could keep going. We are missing opportunities for growth and exposure. The game will NOT grow in Casey, now will our club. With Melbourne City FC there now, we are in a bad spot


9 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I no longer care about MCG precinct, but the facility had to be in the inner city, in an area that is accessible by public transport. Our AFLW team play in front of 2 dogs and cat out at Casey. Look at Punt Road and wht it offers VFL and AFLW supporters. Look at Collingwood and the crowds they pull into Vic Park. I could keep going. We are missing opportunities for growth and exposure. The game will NOT grow in Casey, now will our club. With Melbourne City FC there now, we are in a bad spot

Versus nowhere in the G vicinity.  

There is a easy fix to all our discussion here. Tell us what is happening MFC. Enough of this " we cannot say it might upset the government" [censored]. That just looks like an easy cover up for no progress in 5 years. 

Surely the board have received positive vibes from the state government otherwise why persist with the MCG precinct. If we get knocked back there will be a lot of egg on the faces of our board members. 

Like others i just want to know where we stand. Will the government come through for us or not. I don't understand why it needs to take so long. Give us an answer, one way or the other, so we can move on with other plans

 

We need to build Facilities within the Great Southern Stand upgrade 

If we don’t get in there. It won’t happen 

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We need to build Facilities within the Great Southern Stand upgrade 

If we don’t get in there. It won’t happen 

Not enough room to build indoor facilities, gyms, pools, video rooms, meeting rooms etc that are needed today.  And then somewhere for the administration and football departments. 

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