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On 7/31/2019 at 12:34 PM, Pennant St Dee said:

No, stay well clear, he hasn't given himself the best chance to recover and perform 

A HUGE NO!

 

I’m going to guess that Victorian club going to speak to Bennell is Hawthorn. 

 

He’s already been let go by Fremantle, played four games in two years, is mates with bikies and recently been in an altercation with other bikies. What’s not to like? 

Edited by Ethan Tremblay

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s already been let go by Fremantle, played four games in two years, is mates with bikies and recently been in an altercation with other bikies. What’s not to like?

Might not be remembering correctly (and obviously not exactly the same situation), but didn't we pass on Dusty because he was far too unsavoury for our gentlemanly club?


3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Might not be remembering correctly (and obviously not exactly the same situation), but didn't we pass on Dusty because he was far too unsavoury for our gentlemanly club?

His old man’s a bikie. Dusty’s known indiscretions and issues are minimal compared with Bennell. 

If we get him for nothing why not? Couldn’t be any worse than AVB, KK, Preuss. 

8 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s already been let go by Fremantle, played four games in two years, is mates with bikies and recently been in an altercation with other bikies. What’s not to like? 

 

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

His old man’s a bikie. Dusty’s known indiscretions and issues are minimal compared with Bennell. 

Keep up the good fight 'Ethan', and ' @Pennant St Dee'...

A year like this coming on top of many, many others and I'm nearly ready to do the Robert Johnson crossroads deal...

I'm even finding Hird nearly palatable as an assistant.

I mean, what could go wrong?

 
7 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Might not be remembering correctly (and obviously not exactly the same situation), but didn't we pass on Dusty because he was far too unsavoury for our gentlemanly club?

Trengove and Scully were regarded as the better players (by some margin).  It's also worth bearing in mind how close Dusty came to crashing completely off the rails in the early years of his career.  It's a credit to Richmond (and Martin) that he got through that phase.

 

I'm torn on Bennell... individually, he's a massive talent.  However, the baggage that he could bring with him has the potential to poison the whole playing group.  For his own sake, it's probably a good move to try to leave WA... whether he'll find the same trouble over here remains to be seen.

It takes all types to make up a list an an AFL club, Sydney Stack is the latest example of the past being taken into account and then a club backing themselves in to make the environment a place that could work for the player.

I am all in for HB to have a crack with us, in Melbourne, away from Perth, away from the Suns,  the ultimate last chance.

Remember when we didnt take Jack darling  because he was a bit naughty at school , so we took Lucas Cook instead. HB same draft coincidentally.

Edited by Demon3


1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

His old man’s a bikie. Dusty’s known indiscretions and issues are minimal compared with Bennell. 

So, you're saying his Dad is the only bikie he knows?

And I reckon their rap sheets are not that different, it's just that Dusty has been re-branded in the last couple of years.

Missing training due to being hungover, fined multiple times for onfield "gestures", losing his license, threatening to stab a women with a chop stick... Doesn't seem massively different to me tbh.

5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Trengove and Scully were regarded as the better players (by some margin).  It's also worth bearing in mind how close Dusty came to crashing completely off the rails in the early years of his career.  It's a credit to Richmond (and Martin) that he got through that phase.

I was talking about when Martin was out of contract and being shopped around, sorry should have been clearer.

8 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

So, you're saying his Dad is the only bikie he knows?

And I reckon their rap sheets are not that different, it's just that Dusty has been re-branded in the last couple of years.

Missing training due to being hungover, fined multiple times for onfield "gestures", losing his license, threatening to stab a women with a chop stick... Doesn't seem massively different to me tbh.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make and would appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. I’ve never expressed my opinion on Dusty being recruited (if it were an option) so I don’t know why you’re posting as if I’d recruit him and not Bennell. I’m only expressing my thoughts on Bennell and don’t really care for comparisons. 

Edited by Ethan Tremblay

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make and would appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. I’m posting my thoughts on Harley Bennell and don’t really care for your comparisons with Dusty. 

Thought it was pretty clear that we were comparing the troubles of the two and Melbourne's dislike for 'unsavoury' characters.

You said: "Dusty’s known indiscretions and issues are minimal compared with Bennell."

And I countered with examples. Not sure how you've interpreted that as 'putting words in your mouth' or you 'not caring about comparisons with Martin' when you yourself compared them.

18 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

His old man’s a bikie. Dusty’s known indiscretions and issues are minimal compared with Bennell. 

Nobody knows what the future holds for Harley and what a move to Melbourne could do for him.

Over the years, demonland has always held this weird ultra conservative view to these types of trades, yet is more than happy to give several years of 'development' to players with a toe-nail of the skill that someone like Harley has. People are still waiting for Oscar to become an AA as an example. Vanders has spent half a decade injured on our list. And let's not revisit some of the high draft picks we've had but wasted over the years.

Give the bloke a one-year contract on minimum bones. 

What's the worst that could happen? A failed year for an individual?

We're second last on the fooking ladder with a list brimming with the same weaknesses.

Here's a way of addressing that and could cost nothing. The upside is enormous.

Posters need to think about Hawthorn. 

Dew in 2008? Imagine the meltdown here if we picked up a 110 kg elephant? He won them the Grand Final.

Burgoyne? Scully? O'Meara?

It's time for us to do something un-Melbourne-like.

Edited by stevethemanjordan


I am in... Need to be more bold. Got a lot of Vanilla Footballers on our list!

45 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s already been let go by Fremantle, played four two games in two four years, is mates with bikies and recently been in an altercation with other bikies. What’s not to like? 

fixed it for you :)

7 minutes ago, SPC said:

I am in... Need to be more bold. Got a lot of Vanilla Footballers on our list!

Talk about Vanilla. He will be 27 at the end of this season and has played 2 games in the last 4 seasons, of a possible 88 games, for 19 possessions in total. He had 2 x 1%'s in those 2 games that is 1 a game.

Yes talk about Vanilla. Vanilla would be a taste sensation in his case.

I am happy for him to win 5 Brownlows with someone else. We haven't got the time to look after him, we have too much else to do.

Oh and lastly we have plenty of other players on our list who can't get on the park, we don't need any more.

34 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Nobody knows what the future holds for Harley and what a move to Melbourne could do for him.

Over the years, demonland has always held this weird ultra conservative view to these types of trades, yet is more than happy to give several years of 'development' to players with a toe-nail of the skill that someone like Harley has. People are still waiting for Oscar to become an AA as an example. Vanders has spent half a decade injured on our list. And let's not revisit some of the high draft picks we've had but wasted over the years.

Give the bloke a one-year contract on minimum bones. 

What's the worst that could happen? A failed year for an individual?

We're second last on the fooking ladder with a list brimming with the same weaknesses.

Here's a way of addressing that and could cost nothing. The upside is enormous.

Posters need to think about Hawthorn. 

Dew in 2008? Imagine the meltdown here if we picked up a 110 kg elephant? He won them the Grand Final.

Burgoyne? Scully? O'Meara?

It's time for us to do something un-Melbourne-like.

How many more duds and has beens do you want? Clarke, Clarke, Owen, Templeton, the list is endless. WE've got enough crocks on our list already, man.

 


16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

fixed it for you :)

I thought I read 4 games in 2 years and assumed they got it around the wrong way. 

38 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

 

It's time for us to do something un-Melbourne-like.

How about pick the absolute best player still available in the draft at our first pick and then develop him properly and give him a good game plan to play to and top class medical and conditioning staff and facilities to utilise.

16 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Talk about Vanilla. He will be 27 at the end of this season and has played 2 games in the last 4 seasons, of a possible 88 games, for 19 possessions in total. He had 2 x 1%'s in those 2 games that is 1 a game.

Yes talk about Vanilla. Vanilla would be a taste sensation in his case.

I am happy for him to win 5 Brownlows with someone else. We haven't got the time to look after him, we have too much else to do.

Oh and lastly we have plenty of other players on our list who can't get on the park, we don't need any more.

Slow Inside mids.. Slow inside mids.. Slow inside mids... sing it with me...

 
6 minutes ago, SPC said:

Slow Inside mids.. Slow inside mids.. Slow inside mids... sing it with me...

"Never plays, causes trouble".  Hum along you know the tune.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

"Never plays, causes trouble".  Hum along you know the tune.

I appreciate he may not play much and there is huge risk.. Would just love to be bold and have some things fall out way. Not since Jurrah have I been excited about an individual player.. This guy was a star. Best player in the comp for 12 months. 


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