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15 minutes ago, markc said:

we just gave up 26 , 50 and next years first round for pick 8 

why would we now give up 3 for 6 and 25 ?  

 

there would have to be way more in it for us to give up 3 now 

 

See above Mark....probably correct

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1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Say what you like about our on field performance, but I think our off field and trade performances have been pretty spot on lately.

You think? This trade looks ridulously one sided. We have no second rounder for no reason and It’s quite reasonable we finish back in the pack next year, with North benefiting greatly. 

For the board to agree to do this gives me little faith. 

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10 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

You think? This trade looks ridulously one sided. We have no second rounder for no reason and It’s quite reasonable we finish back in the pack next year, with North benefiting greatly. 

For the board to agree to do this gives me little faith. 

You do know there are around 17 academy players predicted to go top 30 next year yes? That means the draft is compromised and even if we finish outside the top 8 our first round pick is highly unlikely to be lower than around pick 13. 

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And don't forget the benefit is getting someone a year earlier and putting that year into getting them ready etc. Although i can't see a draftee improving us too greatly (if it does it shows how far off our entire list is). I'm not confident in us rebounding either, this year was such a drop off and the lack of possession chains through poor disposal/tactics worries me no end. Fingers crossed we rebound well.

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46 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

You think? This trade looks ridulously one sided. We have no second rounder for no reason and It’s quite reasonable we finish back in the pack next year, with North benefiting greatly. 

For the board to agree to do this gives me little faith. 

Who cares

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No point not bidding on Green as bidding will move our pick 8 up one rung.

GWS are going to have to trade there 2020 first rounder and 6 to us for 3. No brainer for them as well as there 2020 first rounder will be 10+ anyway. So essentially it’s Young/Serong and Green or Green + 2020 pick 10+

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3 hours ago, faultydet said:

So many seem keen to trade 3 to GWS, but what if they then take the player we wanted at 3?

It's a gold star pick. We need to nail it.

Chris Judd (2001) and Dustin Martin (2009) draft picks 3.

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8 minutes ago, olisik said:

No point not bidding on Green as bidding will move our pick 8 up one rung.

GWS are going to have to trade there 2020 first rounder and 6 to us for 3. No brainer for them as well as there 2020 first rounder will be 10+ anyway. So essentially it’s Young/Serong and Green or Green + 2020 pick 10+

They won't trade next year's 1st as they'll need it for academy points, plus pick 10 will end up being pick 18 as other clubs match their own bids and GCS have pp no 11.

 

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When were the rules changed so that bidding now happens after trade period? I remember we had bidding on Viney before we could trade away that pick.

 

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41 minutes ago, olisik said:

When were the rules changed so that bidding now happens after trade period? I remember we had bidding on Viney before we could trade away that pick.

 

a couple of years now

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For all those panicking that we need to make a minimum of 3 draft selections, but we only have 2 left because we've traded out our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks, can you tell me which round was Jarrod Garlett drafted by Carlton in 2017?

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We'll take pick 3 and 8 I reckon. Can't see the logic in trading 3 to GWS if we can just bid anyway and still be in a better position. 

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4 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

De Koning is 200cm utility. Named All Aus fullback, but hasn’t really found his best position. Could become a KPF/2nd ruck type we’re lacking perhaps. Will go anywhere from 20-50. There’s not many talls in this draft so not many other options.

Thanks LT.  Can we afford to spend potentially years developing another giant though (Pruess)?  Not saying he isn't worthy but not sure he fits in our list atm.

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1 hour ago, praha said:

We'll take pick 3 and 8 I reckon. Can't see the logic in trading 3 to GWS if we can just bid anyway and still be in a better position. 

If we are getting back into the first round next year and only going back 3 spots this year in what seems to be a very equal draft from picks 3-12 seems like a massive win for us. 

 

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1 hour ago, praha said:

We'll take pick 3 and 8 I reckon. Can't see the logic in trading 3 to GWS if we can just bid anyway and still be in a better position. 

I don’t believe that will happen.

I truly believe we made this deal with North today off the back of what GWS has promised us by the end of tomorrow.

I guess we shall see...either way I am happy with where we are at.

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3 minutes ago, GCDee said:

If we are getting back into the first round next year and only going back 3 spots this year in what seems to be a very equal draft from picks 3-12 seems like a massive win for us. 

 

GWS first round pick next year may be 25 or even higher after a raft of academy pick are matched

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3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

GWS first round pick next year may be 25 or even higher after a raft of academy pick are matched

I don't think the slide will be that far.... However even if that's the case we still "win" from a points perspective 

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Just now, Moonshadow said:

Yes, we won the equivalent of pick 50. Yay!

Sounds like a trade we cannot lose... 

Just imagine if GWS fall and we pick up an early teen pick 

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5 hours ago, praha said:

We'll take pick 3 and 8 I reckon. Can't see the logic in trading 3 to GWS if we can just bid anyway and still be in a better position. 

We'd only do it if we got a decent player back, otherwise both top 10 picks go to the draft and GWS risk us taking whoever they are interested in at 3.

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10 hours ago, Jaded said:

Say what you like about our on field performance, but I think our off field and trade performances have been pretty spot on lately.

I also think Josh Mahoney's media performances neatly find the right balance between telling the truth but not necessarily the whole truth. That's important both for members and supporters to know what's going on but also to enable him to keep his powder dry should other opportunities arise.

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14 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

De Koning is 200cm utility. Named All Aus fullback, but hasn’t really found his best position. Could become a KPF/2nd ruck type we’re lacking perhaps. Will go anywhere from 20-50. There’s not many talls in this draft so not many other options.

Can he kick?

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9 hours ago, GCDee said:

If we are getting back into the first round next year and only going back 3 spots this year in what seems to be a very equal draft from picks 3-12 seems like a massive win for us. 

 

Yes plus we've also dangled the bait for a possible tasty live morsel before today is out.

We can't lose either way imv.

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