Adem Yze - Assistant Coach?

[Sir Why You Little 36,963]

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

Assistants get the blessing to move on when it is a ‘promotion’ at another club. 

I believe it’s also a universal clause in assistants contract in the AFL.

It sucks.

I am sure you are right. Words and Sweeteners  He is highly regarded, that I do know   

A fine line, hopefully for one more year...

 

 

[Moonshadow 17,675]

9 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Assistants get the blessing to move on when it is a ‘promotion’ at another club. 

I believe it’s also a universal clause in assistants contract in the AFL.

It sucks.

Correct. If it's a senior gig, they can break the contract. Otherwise a good assistant in contract will be retained. Eg, Dew at Swans

[Mach5 4,767]

All positions that have been vacated, have now been filled. The names will be released in good time.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

3 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

All positions that have been vacated, have now been filled. The names will be released in good time.

Is this an educated guess? Have there been more positions vacated that have not been announced and consequently filled? How do you know this?

So many questions...

[Mach5 4,767]

7 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Is this an educated guess? Have there been more positions vacated that have not been announced and consequently filled? How do you know this?

So many questions...

X. I’ll let the rest play out.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

X. I’ll let the rest play out.

I appreciate the kiss, thanks.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Contracts in the AFL are so easily broken now. It’s no big deal. 

Going home to help break a 56 year drought is a significant pull. But he decided not too. 

Fair enough. But I don’t think he will be shattered by it

It’s not actually so easy when there’s not mutuality (and acceptance) between the parties as to the underlying decision.

I.e. when one party intends to stick to/enforce the terms of the contract.

I expect that’s what’s happened here. It’s a real shame.

 

[Superunknown 4,210]

If things go really pear shaped next year (I hope they don't), could Yze go to the Dees.

[Sir Why You Little 36,963]

24 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

It’s not actually so easy when there’s not mutuality (and acceptance) between the parties as to the underlying decision.

I.e. when one party intends to stick to/enforce the terms of the contract.

I expect that’s what’s happened here. It’s a real shame.

 

Yes I know that. But contracts are broken a lot more now than they used to be. 

Of course you need 2 parties to agree, to at least some degree to make change. 

We can wait another 12 months...

[Demon3 2,541]

8 hours ago, Mach5 said:

All positions that have been vacated, have now been filled. The names will be released in good time.

So as i see it the main positions are 2 senior assistants (Rawlings & Jennings). You are saying these have been filled? strange it has not been released, even at the B&F last night. 

By god i hope they are reputable, innovative, strong, progressive coaches.

[Demons11 6,915]

9 hours ago, Mach5 said:

All positions that have been vacated, have now been filled. The names will be released in good time.

?So Clarko is coming over as assistant coach.  Perfect. 

[Pennant St Dee 13,112]

Wouldn't mind getting Dean Solomon on board

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

10 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Wouldn't mind getting Dean Solomon on board

Agree. 

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

11 hours ago, Mach5 said:

X. I’ll let the rest play out.

Cryptic clue? 

[3183 Dee 2,845]

 

 

11 hours ago, Mach5 said:

X. I’ll let the rest play out.

Daniel Cross?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Yze is now interviewing for the Crows head coach job...

 

[Demonland 71,313]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Yze is now interviewing for the Crows head coach job...

If Yze comes home to the Demons it will be as a Head Coach.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Demonland said:

If Yze comes home to the Demons it will be as a Head Coach.

Seems a big jump to go for a head coach position this year. VERY highly rated of course, but was only what you would consider a 'senior assistant' this year. Going to the Crows in their current state with his limited experience could be a disaster for his coaching career IMO.

[deebug 1,754]

On 10/1/2019 at 8:52 AM, Superunknown said:

If things go really pear shaped next year (I hope they don't), could Yze go to the Dees.

Yessssss

[Demonland 71,313]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Seems a big jump to go for a head coach position this year. VERY highly rated of course, but was only what you would consider a 'senior assistant' this year. Going to the Crows in their current state with his limited experience could be a disaster for his coaching career IMO.

What I meant was that Yze's next role at a club will be as a senior coach. He'll either wait out the senior role at the Hawks or seek it elsewhere. I doubt he will go to another club (even the Dees) as an assistant.

It looks like whoever takes the Crows job has an uphill battle with all the players jumping ship.

[Lucifers Hero 39,562]

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Seems a big jump to go for a head coach position this year. VERY highly rated of course, but was only what you would consider a 'senior assistant' this year. Going to the Crows in their current state with his limited experience could be a disaster for his coaching career IMO.

I wouldn't discount him based on experience.  He's had more experience (7 years in a variety or roles through 3 premierships) than Goodwin when he joined the Demons (4 years at a flaky club) and some other first time coaches.

If he gets the senior coach at Adelaide they will put a mentor there with him.  Seems to be the go with first time coaches..

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

I wouldn't discount him based on experience.  He's had more experience (7 years in a variety or roles through 3 premierships) than Goodwin when he joined the Demons (4 years at a flaky club) and some other first time coaches.

If he gets the senior coach at Adelaide they will put a mentor there with him.  Seems to be the go with first time coaches..

Yze was a part time coach until 2015 though. Backline coach for a couple of years, then strategy coach for 1 year.

Goodwin was an assistant coach for a few years, then senior assistant, then coach in waiting under Roos.

Obviously not rating them as the same potential, but Goodwin had far more senior experience when appointed head coach.

 

[TGR 1,367]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Seems a big jump to go for a head coach position this year. VERY highly rated of course, but was only what you would consider a 'senior assistant' this year. Going to the Crows in their current state with his limited experience could be a disaster for his coaching career IMO.

Many bridesmaids never get a gig.  As Rossy says, the ride is worth the fall.

 

We are a nervous lot, more concerned about what may happen after sticking your neck out.

 

My advice.  Take the crows job if it comes.

 

TiGeR

 

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,963]

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yze was a part time coach until 2015 though. Backline coach for a couple of years, then strategy coach for 1 year.

Goodwin was an assistant coach for a few years, then senior assistant, then coach in waiting under Roos.

Obviously not rating them as the same potential, but Goodwin had far more senior experience when appointed head coach.

 

Nobody has Senior Experience as a Head Coach until they are actually in the chair. That includes Goodwin. He had brilliant training, that many don’t get and we still had to endure 2019. 

Yze would be primed for his first gig...

Still hope he can make it back hone in future 

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

43 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Nobody has Senior Experience as a Head Coach until they are actually in the chair. That includes Goodwin. He had brilliant training, that many don’t get and we still had to endure 2019. 

Yze would be primed for his first gig...

Still hope he can make it back hone in future

Read the previous posts for context mate, talking about senior experience as in as a senior assistant.