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  On 16/08/2019 at 13:02, Age said:

I don’t want to be one of those who says I can’t say who told me but shall we say it’s from a player or two and an official from another club. 

Plus observation, stupidly I was there

Clearly something is off. Yes they’re undermanned, but this is def a team playing without spirit. I suppose the question re this infighting  is who has to go or can it be healed. On zero information I’m guessing that’s it’s prob coming from viney. He gave them a massive rev up pre game and the team  started like a soggy lettuce. I’d love to know more but it’s better u don’t say... but I would like to hear what u think needs to happen to sort things out. 

Goodys got a big job now to get the players back. 

 
  On 16/08/2019 at 12:31, Brownie said:

But they do. The question is where and why has it disappeared.

That kids bleeds red and blue. What has happened to this group?

I agree.

Is it only form and injuries, so the group sees this rationale and drop the effort by 1%?

Should we see more anger and frustration in our leaders?  Probably

Problem is, confidence is a cancer. Team is hurting, like the supporters. Next year ...

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:08, 3183 Dee said:

I have heard this, but not sure how reliable the source is.

I have always thought 2 Captains is pathetic actually 

 

 
  On 16/08/2019 at 12:58, Win4theAges said:

Have you read any of my comments tonight?

Yes. Your post 70 about 20 mins ago which I quoted on. Pert is not at fault here. He is not coaching and playing and had basically nothing to do with on field efforts by our team this year. Give him time to dissect over summer and make informed decisions which I'm sure he will do but please it is not his fault we are in this position.

Goodwins post match starting soon. 

Sadomasochism and self flagellum devotees unite for the preliminary final of pressers  

??? 

Edited by McQueen


Goodwin needs to answer why our defensive mode had vanished? Tackle difference 2nd last in the comp, Swans had younger players tackling more! Is the players, game plan or him???

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:11, McQueen said:

Goodwins post match starting soon. 

Sadomasochism and self flagellum devotees unite for the preliminary final of pressers  

??? 

You must drink every mention of 'forward connection', 'flow', 'back to the Melbourne way', 'injuries'. 

 

Surely the AFL has fudged the 23,000 attendance for tonight's game. No way was the MCG 1/4 filled tonight.


  On 16/08/2019 at 13:13, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

You must drink every mention of 'forward connection', 'flow', 'back to the Melbourne way', 'injuries'. 

I better get a bucket on hand so I don’t ruin the floor rug. 

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:08, Wells 11 said:

Clearly something is off. Yes they’re undermanned, but this is def a team playing without spirit. I suppose the question re this infighting  is who has to go or can it be healed. On zero information I’m guessing that’s it’s prob coming from viney. He gave them a massive rev up pre game and the team  started like a soggy lettuce. I’d love to know more but it’s better u don’t say... but I would like to hear what u think needs to happen to sort things out. 

Goodys got a big job now to get the players back. 

Let's be honest, can you imagine listening to Viney giving a rev up? You'd just sit there and take the [censored] because the bloke wpuld be stuttering every second word.

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:07, Hell Bent said:

 

I haven`t heard anything at all but what I saw from some of the players tonight and the continued lost in space look in Goodwin`s face has me in no doubt we have a problem behind the scenes.

Some of the most selfish play and horrible body language I`ve seen in an AFL match.

Lets hope we get some answers at seasons end, we have imploded.

I saw that bad body language on the plane to Alice with the team . Something stinks to high heaven 

Demons will get the bottom six fixture against they fellow battlers next year. Have put blokes in for early surgery. Will have Darren Burgess as the world class fitness guru. Will tip the coaching panel upside down. Won’t have many excuses

10 more inside 50's, yet we lost by almost 10 goals.

You can NOT defend that when its been happening all year.

 

Speaking of the Beatles, maybe the players listen to Helter Skelter before playing games.

 

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:11, McQueen said:

Goodwins post match starting soon. 

Sadomasochism and self flagellum devotees unite for the preliminary final of pressers  

??? 

Goodwin yet to mention anything about the gameplan. 

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:12, Demonsone said:

Goodwin needs to answer why our defensive mode had vanished? Tackle difference 2nd last in the comp, Swans had younger players tackling more! Is the players, game plan or him???

That's a good pick up - fifth last for tackles in the comp... we were third last year,  we've dropped away by nearly 10 tackles a game.  Given that tackles are a good measure of work-rate  I would think this more a sign of the players attitudes than any change to the game plan.  

Fortunately next week we play the worst tackling side in the comp, unfortunately we're likely to have a couple more players unavailable due to injury (including Max I suspect).

  On 16/08/2019 at 12:48, Gorgoroth said:

PS, I’m in Europe, haven’t seen the last few games and life is good! ?

I’m in the Middle East where it’s more peaceful than watching Melbourne play. 


  On 16/08/2019 at 13:18, dazzledavey36 said:
Demons will get the bottom six fixture against they fellow battlers next year. Have put blokes in for early surgery. Will have Darren Burgess as the world class fitness guru. Will tip the coaching panel upside down. Won’t have many excuses

They are already line up too massacre our club to bits.

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:23, Win4theAges said:

They are already line up too massacre our club to bits.

Judging by the feedback here, at Bigfooty and the Facebook page - they deserve everything.

Members have had enough.

  On 16/08/2019 at 13:23, Win4theAges said:

They are already line up too massacre our club to bits.

Good. It deserves it. 

We have been soft for decades

 
  On 16/08/2019 at 13:03, Ethan Tremblay said:

Same here, I currently buy three memberships and with another one due in October that’s four memberships that the club won’t get next season. They’re an absolute joke and no way will I give my money to such a heartless rabble. Those who think we’ll bounce back next season are kidding themselves. 

You've always been been more optimistic than me.
I pulled the plug on them this year for the 1st time in 20 after our pathetic start.


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