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Always enjoy the threads that get bumped when a player has a good game.

Would be 32 before next season starts. We're not exactly topping up for a flag.

Been a great player, but doesn't suit our context as a club.

 

We lack senior players, he’s exactly what we need. He didn’t just have a good game @Lord Nev, he’s had a very good season. 

Edited by Ethan Tremblay

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

We lack senior players, he’s exactly what we need. He hasn’t just had a good year @Lord Nev, he’s had a very good season. 

Sure, but 32 is literally a senior. If he was a former captain or had premiership experience I might be for it, but he's a good mid who's played a handful of finals. Don't see the point when we're a long way off. I wouldn't look at anyone over 30 unless they're going to significantly impact our culture in a short time, and as good a player as Higgins is, I just don't see him as being able to do that as a leader.

 
5 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Sure, but 32 is literally a senior. If he was a former captain or had premiership experience I might be for it, but he's a good mid who's played a handful of finals. Don't see the point when we're a long way off. I wouldn't look at anyone over 30 unless they're going to significantly impact our culture in a short time, and as good a player as Higgins is, I just don't see him as being able to do that as a leader.

He can shift culture without having played in a flag. 

Jordan Lewis has 4 flags, yet our bathwater drinking culture remains (not blaming him at all)

I'd say Higgins has had a positive impact upon North's culture.

But your certainly right. At 32, is our bang for buck better used elsewhere?

I think he has one good year left before becoming borderline liability. Doubt he'd leave North for a 1 year deal with us, rightly so.


6 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Always enjoy the threads that get bumped when a player has a good game.

Would be 32 before next season starts. We're not exactly topping up for a flag.

Been a great player, but doesn't suit our context as a club.

We need to find the next Higgins. A quality user of the ball just entering free agency.

Edited by KingDingAling

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

He can shift culture without having played in a flag. 

Jordan Lewis has 4 flags, yet our bathwater drinking culture remains (not blaming him at all)

I'd say Higgins has had a positive impact upon North's culture.

But your certainly right. At 32, is our bang for buck better used elsewhere?

I think he has one good year left before becoming borderline liability. Doubt he'd leave North for a 1 year deal with us, rightly so.

Yeah for sure, wasn't mean to sound like a dig at him at all, he's been rated as a potential leader at both clubs. Was more thinking of the impact over the minimal time he would be with us. As you say, Lewis, who has 4 flags and is very highly rated as a leader, hasn't managed to turn it around in the 3 years he was there. No doubt he's had an impact, but it just shows how bad things were/still are. I rate Higgins highly, would just rather try to chase someone we can have for longer.

 

Normally I'd say get stuffed but we desperately need this kind of player and he's not exactly someone who relies on running ability. 2 years though? Risk. 


17 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Sure, but 32 is literally a senior. If he was a former captain or had premiership experience I might be for it, but he's a good mid who's played a handful of finals. Don't see the point when we're a long way off. I wouldn't look at anyone over 30 unless they're going to significantly impact our culture in a short time, and as good a player as Higgins is, I just don't see him as being able to do that as a leader.

I'd argue Daniel Cross and Bernie Vince had as big an impact as Jordan Lewis despite the former players having not won a flag. Also I reckon Crossy migjt become a development coach for us next year. 

Big yes to three years if deal is right. Plays younger than his age.

9 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Did you read the article, he wants 3 years......

I'm ok with 3 on the basis that if he starts to slow down he plays VFL and transitions into a development coaching role. Suspect $ and ability to play AFL for 3 years may lure him to the Gold Coast. 

Edited by chookrat

7 hours ago, chookrat said:

I'd argue Daniel Cross and Bernie Vince had as big an impact as Jordan Lewis despite the former players having not won a flag. Also I reckon Crossy migjt become a development coach for us next year. 

Yeah for sure they had a big impact, but Cross was 31 when he came to us and Bernie was 29. And I would say our list was in a much worse shape at that stage than it is now. Hard to say who has had a bigger impact culture wise as the contexts are a bit different I reckon, and we're not in there behind the scenes. I wouldn't put Higgins in the same category as any of them from a leadership perspective, but that's just my opinion.

Latest from SEN's Sam Edmund this morning...

“Watch this space on Shaun Higgins. For everything you hear, he remains a legitimate chance to leave North Melbourne this year as long as the Kangaroos insist on only being willing to consider a one-year extension,” he said.

“He’s contracted until the end of 2020, he wants more security than that.

“Geelong is prepared to give him that. They’ve made informal inquiries, which is why Higgins was able to dismiss those reports last month.

“I still think North give him the two years in the end, but if they don’t, he’s definitely going to look. He won’t move interstate, I can tell you that.”

Edited by Rusty Nails


I posted the below in the draft and trade thread - i believe Shaun Higgins should be on our radar and we should be asking the question!

If we are worried about leadership and older heads in out team now that Lewis is out and Jones no guarantee to play all year in the s seniors then Shaun Higgins is our man. I firmly believe he has 3 years left in him, would be a beautiful outside user and compliment us so well. 

Now it depends on what he would cost us i know that, but great mates with Daniel Cross and worth asking the question i reckon.

 

He's a beautiful kick, doesn't rely on speed, i'd be comfortable offering him 3 years, we need the experience and his kicking would be very handy. 

Nothing to see hear he's off to Geelong.

3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Nothing to see hear he's off to Geelong.

Tim Kelly is causing all sorts of problems for us with the opening up of positional space at the Cats, and potentially the collateral for a Brad Hill 3-way trade with Saints.... Or maybe just finishing 17th is causing it.

 

Edited by Rusty Nails


Good.

Now we just need Jack Steven to stay at St. Kilda so the Cats have no decent replacement for Tim Kelly.

  • 2 weeks later...
 
4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Good.  That's another one the Cats have missed out on.  

They'll get at least one 1st rounder for Kelly. Watch them swing that into a deal, not for Higgins, but for another star

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1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

They'll get at least one 1st rounder for Kelly. Watch them swing that into a deal, not for Higgins, but for another star

Maybe, but with Danger, Selwood and Hawkins all getting into their twilight years, I'm hoping they fall off a cliff very soon.


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