Casey redevelopment

[old dee 23,122]

3 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

bite the bullet and make the move to casey

You have my vote, it is a way better place to train.

[bush demon 1,922]

Casey Shire is the demographic heartland of Melbourne anyway. The MCG is so 1964.

Other things that are so 1964:

1. EH Holden with 179 motor.

2. Red smelly trains on the Dandenong line. 

3. Two shillings for fish and chips (just guessing on that one)

4. Melbourne rampant in the finals.

5. Jimmy Nichols as fill-in drummer for The Beatles for part of Australian tour.

6. John Nicholls, 6 foot 2 ruckman.

7. Cassius Clay getting liniment rubbed in his eyes during Sonny Liston fight.

8. Brown paper bags (with money for Ron).

9. Getting the cuts.

10. The drop-kick.

 

[Cards13 9,117]

12 minutes ago, bush demon said:

Casey Shire is the demographic heartland of Melbourne anyway. The MCG is so 1964.

Other things that are so 1964:

1. EH Holden with 179 motor.

2. Red smelly trains on the Dandenong line. 

3. Two shillings for fish and chips (just guessing on that one)

4. Melbourne rampant in the finals.

5. Jimmy Nichols as fill-in drummer for The Beatles for part of Australian tour.

6. John Nicholls, 6 foot 2 ruckman.

7. Cassius Clay getting liniment rubbed in his eyes during Sonny Liston fight.

8. Brown paper bags (with money for Ron).

9. Getting the cuts.

10. The drop-kick.

 

The place kick?

[bluey 905]

We moved to the Junction in 1986, Cameron Swab suggested we move lock stock and barrel to Casey in 2010, here we are, still nomads, staggering around on the flip of a coin.

[roy11 3,112]

"The new Etihad City Football Academy (CFA) will sit within the 84-hectare Casey Fields Sporting Precinct (Casey Fields), and will feature an elite training tablet pitch, four full-sized floodlit pitches, a two-story elite performance and HQ building and space for a 4000-capacity mini-stadium to be created as part of a future ‘Stage Three’ construction.  "

 

how much space is there at Casey fields?

 

[whatwhat say what 19,947]

39 minutes ago, roy11 said:

"The new Etihad City Football Academy (CFA) will sit within the 84-hectare Casey Fields Sporting Precinct (Casey Fields), and will feature an elite training tablet pitch, four full-sized floodlit pitches, a two-story elite performance and HQ building and space for a 4000-capacity mini-stadium to be created as part of a future ‘Stage Three’ construction.  "

 

how much space is there at Casey fields?

 

https://www.casey.vic.gov.au/facilities-hire/casey-fields

88 hectares apparently

[maximum bob 462]

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

The place kick?

Peanuts in the shell sold in a paper bag at the G from the short old bloke who lugged them around in a hessian sack in the outer.

Forget shillings. Sixpence, (my bus fare in '64), then got you minimum chips - in other words heaps. It was a bit of a walk home unfortunately but happy to share with my mates who I used to play kick to kick with on the road with only an occasional car interrupting our speckies, balks and sealers. Fond memories.

[Diamond_Jim 12,065]

24 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

https://www.casey.vic.gov.au/facilities-hire/casey-fields

88 hectares apparently

most of it is occupied by one club/sport or another.

There is a large ashphalt area adjoining the athletic track where they race land yachts.

There is also space between our oval and the main road which is not being used to the naked eye.

On the other side of our oval is a wetlands complex which I cannot see being touched.

[roy11 3,112]

29 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

https://www.casey.vic.gov.au/facilities-hire/casey-fields

88 hectares apparently

Attached a google map screenshot and also a graphic from the City of Casey Master plan for those who need images like me to understand things aha

[Half forward flank 1,022]

38 minutes ago, maximum bob said:

Peanuts in the shell sold in a paper bag at the G from the short old bloke who lugged them around in a hessian sack in the outer.

Forget shillings. Sixpence, (my bus fare in '64), then got you minimum chips - in other words heaps. It was a bit of a walk home unfortunately but happy to share with my mates who I used to play kick to kick with on the road with only an occasional car interrupting our speckies, balks and sealers. Fond memories.

Sure do remember him.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

9 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Attached a google map screenshot and also a graphic from the City of Casey Master plan for those who need images like me to understand things aha

Great stuff, also Casey has the Basketball stadium. With a little vision you can imagine this area in 10 to 20 years. 

[DeeSpencer 23,569]

40 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Great stuff, also Casey has the Basketball stadium. With a little vision you can imagine this area in 10 to 20 years. 

Imagine it how?

The entire project is a tremendous rort. Instead of building community facilities throughout the new housing estates (aka future slums) they've taken the development money and put it all in one place.

Then they've splashed out on getting semi professional teams and training bases instead of actually providing the community with what they need spread around the suburbs so local businesses can merge in with facilities.

It's the sporting version of an awful suburban shopping centre with the same crappy parking and soulless vibe.

Just maybe when they build the train line in 30 years it might stand a chance.

[Pates 9,541]

I still think that extending the Trainline down to Casey from Cranbourne could actually make it a viable location for boutique stadium. I also would have no issue with us making it our primary base of operations provided the facilities out there are elite. 

I’d still prefer us being closer to the G but I’m also sick of us being nomads. 

[Wells 11 4,958]

9 minutes ago, Pates said:

I still think that extending the Trainline down to Casey from Cranbourne could actually make it a viable location for boutique stadium. I also would have no issue with us making it our primary base of operations provided the facilities out there are elite. 

I’d still prefer us being closer to the G but I’m also sick of us being nomads. 

I’m warming to the idea of two bases that we’re moving toward.  A large elite one out at Casey and a boutique version near the G. But I agree any frikn home is welcome at this point. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,019]

None of our supporters live in that area. I don’t have the stats, but I’d have a guess that around 2% would live in that area. 
 

Casey is a growing area that caters to a lot of migrants, none of whom are interested in Australian Football. With City Football Group now in competition for supporters in the area, and the A League moving to a winter sport, there is no better time than now to cut the cord with Casey. It’s a waste of time. 
 

Soccer will have far greater success in that area than we ever will. 

[kev martin 9,327]

2 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Forget shillings. Sixpence, (my bus fare in '64), then got you minimum chips - in other words heaps. It was a bit of a walk home

Bob, that is exactly what I did. 

Chips and not a bus ride. The pack was sixpence.

I still enjoy walking.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Imagine it how?

The entire project is a tremendous rort. Instead of building community facilities throughout the new housing estates (aka future slums) they've taken the development money and put it all in one place.

Then they've splashed out on getting semi professional teams and training bases instead of actually providing the community with what they need spread around the suburbs so local businesses can merge in with facilities.

It's the sporting version of an awful suburban shopping centre with the same crappy parking and soulless vibe.

Just maybe when they build the train line in 30 years it might stand a chance.

I think you need to go check out the Casey basketball stadium, Full of happy, fit kids and adults playing morning, noon and nights. Future slums?  Just a slur on the people who live and work in the area. The old guard like you just reinforce why the MFC should change direction. Fortunately I think Casey will be a big part of MFC future. 

[Cards13 9,117]

3 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Peanuts in the shell sold in a paper bag at the G from the short old bloke who lugged them around in a hessian sack in the outer.

Forget shillings. Sixpence, (my bus fare in '64), then got you minimum chips - in other words heaps. It was a bit of a walk home unfortunately but happy to share with my mates who I used to play kick to kick with on the road with only an occasional car interrupting our speckies, balks and sealers. Fond memories.

What were your attire like bob, genuinely interested. I have the images of The Sullivan’s. 

[DeeSpencer 23,569]

10 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

I think you need to go check out the Casey basketball stadium, Full of happy, fit kids and adults playing morning, noon and nights. Future slums?  Just a slur on the people who live and work in the area. The old guard like you just reinforce why the MFC should change direction. Fortunately I think Casey will be a big part of MFC future. 

I'd rather walk in the middle of the Monash than hear the horrendous noise of a basketball stadium, no one should be subjected to that constant thump thump thump. But yes, basketball stadiums are good community facilities, well done.

No one works in these areas, just subdivision after subdivision, everyone has to commute for work. Slowly as the cheap home builds start to fade and without any investment in infrastructure the area will become increasingly soulless and more unappealing. I'd have more respect for the people that live there than the property developers who raked in millions then got the heck away from it and the councillors that allowed it to happen. I'm not anti the outer suburbs or the people that live there, I'm anti how little time, money and sense has been put in to making them succeed because if they don't succeed they are going to cost everyone.

For a start I'd build the transport to be ready for the housing not 30 years later, heck I'd even build a Frankston, Cranbourne, Berwick train line so these suburbs are connected to a relevant hub in Frankston that isn't an hour away. Then instead of allowing row of home after home I'd mix in some medium density apartments and townhouses around the transport hubs and some business zones to attract jobs. Maybe even get lucky and get a restaurant that isn't a McDonald's. Then I'd spread the ovals out around the suburbs so everyone has easily accessible green space that doesn't involve driving to the same facility. At the moment all they leave is a wetlands which is just code for 'this area was too boggy to build on'.

Building every sporting field together is a cop out and if there's not even good transport or surrounding businesses I don't see how it helps the community. To make it sound better they've gone out to sign professional teams but so far are looking at 1.5 training bases. Good for them if they can get Melbourne City to actually play games there but the Dandenong boutique stadium makes far more sense, so I'd be hoping they can get the funding to get that happening.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

12 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I'd rather walk in the middle of the Monash than hear the horrendous noise of a basketball stadium, no one should be subjected to that constant thump thump thump. But yes, basketball stadiums are good community facilities, well done.

No one works in these areas, just subdivision after subdivision, everyone has to commute for work. Slowly as the cheap home builds start to fade and without any investment in infrastructure the area will become increasingly soulless and more unappealing. I'd have more respect for the people that live there than the property developers who raked in millions then got the heck away from it and the councillors that allowed it to happen. I'm not anti the outer suburbs or the people that live there, I'm anti how little time, money and sense has been put in to making them succeed because if they don't succeed they are going to cost everyone.

For a start I'd build the transport to be ready for the housing not 30 years later, heck I'd even build a Frankston, Cranbourne, Berwick train line so these suburbs are connected to a relevant hub in Frankston that isn't an hour away. Then instead of allowing row of home after home I'd mix in some medium density apartments and townhouses around the transport hubs and some business zones to attract jobs. Maybe even get lucky and get a restaurant that isn't a McDonald's. Then I'd spread the ovals out around the suburbs so everyone has easily accessible green space that doesn't involve driving to the same facility. At the moment all they leave is a wetlands which is just code for 'this area was too boggy to build on'.

Building every sporting field together is a cop out and if there's not even good transport or surrounding businesses I don't see how it helps the community. To make it sound better they've gone out to sign professional teams but so far are looking at 1.5 training bases. Good for them if they can get Melbourne City to actually play games there but the Dandenong boutique stadium makes far more sense, so I'd be hoping they can get the funding to get that happening.

I know a number of people who live in those sub divisions. One family lives within a 2 minute walk of a park with a basketball practice area, kids playground and BBQ. And another  new school opening within a year. What you describe, although exaggerated and untrue is little different than the development of Eastern suburbs like Doncaster and Templestowe 50 years ago. More relevant to MFC is the area is full of young families and it is proven footy, AFL, provides a fantastic pathway to intergration and community. So lets make MFC a destination club for these kids through our on the plate facility at Casey.

[DeesViney 2]

The Melbourne Football Club deserves to be in the Heartland of Melbourne. That is our name!! No point  looking at Casey when the Club is actively looking at the MCG precinct which is the main priority. Yes Casey is suffice for now, but long term we MUST be within the MCG area.

Edited December 15, 2020 by DeesViney
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[old dee 23,122]

45 minutes ago, DeesViney said:

The Melbourne Football Club deserves to be in the Heartland of Melbourne. That is our name!! No point  looking at Casey when the Club is actively looking at the MCG precinct which is the main priority. Yes Casey is suffice for now, but long term we MUST be within the MCG area.

I hope your long term is not as long term as the current wait 40+ years and counting.

[Pates 9,541]

48 minutes ago, old dee said:

I hope your long term is not as long term as the current wait 40+ years and counting.

That's exactly it OD, we've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a base in the Melbourne Sporting Precinct. I'm not saying it's impossible, and I take Pert and Co at their word that there is hope for it, but if it's not going to happen let's get ourselves into an elite base because EVERY OTHER TEAM in the competition has bolted out of the gates on this issue while we continue to just sit there and wait.

[kev martin 9,327]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/shock-move-melbourne-city-to-relocate-in-bid-for-more-fans-20201214-p56nda.html

Looks like Melbourne city soccer club is building a boutique stadium out there in the Casey sporting precinct .

Hope we stay in the MCG precinct.  

[Grr-owl 1,083]

Who goes to the city anymore? Tourists?