The calumny of the AFL's priority pick policy

[binman 44,835]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

HaydenYoung and Lachie Ash are 2 absolute gem footballers.

I am bias because of my work that I did with Ash in the past but Young is quite similar to Lachie Whitfield.

Which is the better kick dazzler?

[binman 44,835]

I wouldn't rule out some back room deals involving our pick 3 and king. Some deal that gets him to saints and we get pick 2?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

I wonder if they are getting #2 to save face for King wanting out???

[Panamapapers 60]

Anyone who blames or criticises the AFL are a disgrace! The club should not be in this position of even being eligible for a top 8 pick. Expectations were to play finals, nothing more, nothing less. 

 

So dees supporters who think we are entitled to pick 2 should hang their heads in shame. 

 

The club does not give a continental whether it is successful or not (just another example here https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-08-24/we-take-full-responsibility-jones) so why should we care as supporters. 

Besides, we will of course waste pick 2 or 3 or whatever we get because we are Melbourne!

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

Whatever.

Q) What do Fyfe, T Kelly, Dangerfield, P Cripps, Bontempelli, Grundy, Gawn, Neale and Dusty Martin have in common?

A) Blokes that are dominating 2019 and are at the absolute top of their game, and none of them were top 2 picks.

The eventual best player of this draft won’t be picks 1 or 2.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Whatever.

Q) What do Fyfe, T Kelly, Dangerfield, P Cripps, Bontempelli, Grundy, Gawn, Neale and Dusty Martin have in common?

A) Blokes that are dominating 2019 and are at the absolute top of their game, and none of them were top 2 picks.

The eventual best player of this draft won’t be picks 1 or 2.

Sam Walsh goes alright.

But I get your point.

[dazzledavey36 56,342]

18 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

What type of players are they, Daz?

Ash - Strong half back/ midfielder who's biggest strength is his high speed and power to break the lines. Started the season and under 18 championships as a running half back flanker whos intercept marking is also highlight. After the championships ended, there were question on whether Ash could push up into the midfield. Proved that theory correct by averaging around the 24 disposal mark since playing as an on baller. Ripper bloke who is co-captain of the bushiesand a really driven individual. 187cm 84kg.

Young - Half back player who like Ash was questioned whether he could make the transition from back to the midfield and again proving that he's adding more strings to the bow by pushing up to a wing and winning big numbers around the midfield. Shows absolute class and silk with his dead eye right foot kick. His ability to kick low flat 50m kicks to a target is seriously a sight to behold. 188cm tall who is also a strong intercept mark and someone who would make an immediate impact for an AFL club next year as a half back flanker/wingman. Lachie Whitfield type for me.

Edited August 26, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[dazzledavey36 56,342]

16 minutes ago, binman said:

Which is the better kick dazzler?

Both good kicks but Young is your absolute cream on the top. You'd simply get the ball in this blokes hands at every opportunity as possible.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Sam Walsh goes alright.

But I get your point.

He goes very well. But in 5-10 years will he be the best player from that draft?

The absolute super star generational talents such as Buddy, Fyfe, Danger, Judd, Dustin Martin and others were not top 2 picks.

Edited August 26, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He goes very well. But in 5-10 years will he be the best player from that draft?

The absolute super star generational talents such as Buddy, Fyfe, Danger, Judd, and others were not top 2 picks.

It's a fair point.  I had a quick look at the drafts since 2010, and apart from a few of the earlier ones where Coniglio, Whitfield and Josh Kelly were taken within the first two picks, the rest of the drafts were a little on the underwhelming side.

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

How can it be announced officially tomorrow if Gold Coast are only meeting the commission tomorrow to ask for it , and any decision won’t be ratified until after the grand final from what I read in another article 

Edited August 26, 2019 by Delusional demon 82

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,555]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

It's a fair point.  I had a quick look at the drafts since 2010, and apart from a few of the earlier ones where Coniglio, Whitfield and Josh Kelly were taken within the first two picks, the rest of the drafts were a little on the underwhelming side.

I had Josh Kelly on my mind but didn’t want to mention him as that would’ve contradicted my comment.

An absolute gun at pick 2.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I had Josh Kelly on my mind but didn’t want to mention him as that would’ve contradicted my comment.

An absolute gun at pick 2.

Conigilo and Whitfield are right up there as well, but I think you're point is right more often than not.  There are other examples, such as Hodge at pick 1, Roughie at pick 2 and so forth, but there have been plenty others as you've mentioned that came outside those two picks and turned out to be gun players.  I don't think this change in pick order matters much at all.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

How can it be announced officially if Gold Coast are only meeting the commission tomorrow to ask for it , and any decision won’t be ratified until after the grand final from what I read in another article 

Sorry, could be my bad, just figured they would announce it tomorrow seeing they're deciding tomorrow. (Rumours were it was already decided a week or two ago anyway).

[praha 11,267]

Who cares. If someone said to me we'd end up with pick 3 in the draft I wouldn't have believed it. For every possible reason.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

44 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

[censored] us over again AFL, why don't you...

Lol. 

Explain to me how the AFL [censored] us over? 

Let me know the last time we turned a top draft pick into a genuine star. 

Edited August 26, 2019 by stevethemanjordan

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sorry, could be my bad, just figured they would announce it tomorrow seeing they're deciding tomorrow. (Rumours were it was already decided a week or two ago anyway).

Sounds about right for the afl , they probably encouraged them to ask for it 

 

[ChaserJ 5,192]

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Both good kicks but Young is your absolute cream on the top. You'd simply get the ball in this blokes hands at every opportunity as possible.

Young's kick is a thing of beauty. I'm torn between Young and Ash, but gee Young's kicking would make our transition sooo much better:

 

[TheoX 1,222]

Disgraceful. They delist a contracted jarryd lyons last year and get a before R1 PP. Adeliaide would be livid too after trading future R1s. AFL corruption. As if their 6 top10 pocks in the last 2 years have helped them. They need to get rid of their dud coach like Carltank did. 

[KLV 1,768]

Tom Browne said it on talking footy, would he know?

[Sir Why You Little 37,458]

It is just so wrong. GC delist Lyons and then go begging for Pick 2

What sort of a farce is it up there. 

The poor kids who get Sent there...

[dazzledavey36 56,342]

6 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Young's kick is a thing of beauty. I'm torn between Young and Ash, but gee Young's kicking would make our transition sooo much better:

 

I am the same mate. I like Ash because I am bias but the more I think about it the more I lean towards Young.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Don't see why people are so upset about it tbh.

We can't say "don't give GC a priority pick, they're problems are cultural and bigger than just picks" with a straight face as MFC supporters can we?

 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,388]

They need incentives to keep the players they already have, they don’t need more 18 year olds who don’t want to be there. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

They need incentives to keep the players they already have, they don’t need more 18 year olds who don’t want to be there. 

Get the feeling they'll get more help than just a priority pick.