Injuries aside, because all teams have injuries.  It’s culture, it’s soft culture that has not been fixed.  It’s a leadership issue on and off field.  

I firmly believe Gawn is the most visible leader we have got on a list of 42. He is working his guts out every week and not getting support from the coaches in their pig headed approach to game style.  Jones and Viney not cutting the mustard with in game leadership.

In a seriously underperforming team, Goodwin gives them cuddles and changes nothing.  Our culture is putrid and until this is forced upon Goodwin to change the culture and leadership, the club will still be laughing stock.  

Get the leadership group right.  We need a Hodge or Selwood type.  Our mob just don’t get leadership right. That is the MFC problem.

Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

they are who i hope are our leaders next year

Max (C)

May (VC)

8 minutes ago, Soidee said:

Injuries aside, because all teams have injuries.  It’s culture, it’s soft culture that has not been fixed.  It’s a leadership issue on and off field.  

I firmly believe Gawn is the most visible leader we have got on a list of 42. He is working his guts out every week and not getting support from the coaches in their pig headed approach to game style.  Jones and Viney not cutting the mustard with in game leadership.

In a seriously underperforming team, Goodwin gives them cuddles and changes nothing.  Our culture is putrid and until this is forced upon Goodwin to change the culture and leadership, the club will still be laughing stock.  

Get the leadership group right.  We need a Hodge or Selwood type.  Our mob just don’t get leadership right. That is the MFC problem.

I agree 100 per cent with Gawn as the best leader we have. And yet I think he senses he is not right for the job and would prefer to go about his craft and offer some leadership and spirit to the group in other ways. . 

The Melbourne Problem, where do you start as there are a few. 

The heading only makes it seem like we only have one, if only that were the case.

 

27 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

they are who i hope are our leaders next year

Max (C)

May (VC)

You have my vote SW

24 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

they are who i hope are our leaders next year

Max (C)

May (VC)

May is not leadership material. He is soft and getting softer. He was a very overpriced pick up and seem to be getting more fragile with age. I doubt he will play 20 games or be a part of a successful Demons team. He does not even lead by example with his personal self discipline. We have not even seen how he fits in a competent back line because he has never played in one. He has played one OK game for us.

I reckon May is great.

Personally, I'd have Gawn and May as co-Captains next year, if the co-Captain model is to be adopted going forward.

 

20 minutes ago, Mental Demons said:

May is not leadership material. He is soft and getting softer. He was a very overpriced pick up and seem to be getting more fragile with age. I doubt he will play 20 games or be a part of a successful Demons team. He does not even lead by example with his personal self discipline. We have not even seen how he fits in a competent back line because he has never played in one. He has played one OK game for us.

Wow ? I didn’t expect that one!!

I'd dump our current co-captains and make Gawn sole captain.

1 hour ago, DemonOX said:

The Melbourne Problem, where do you start as there are a few. 

The heading only makes it seem like we only have one, if only that were the case.

 

We do only have one problem-

#PoorCultureNoDepthToomanyInjuriesNoGameplanMentallySoftUnfitPoorlydrilledScaredtotakeashotBadlycoachedOverhandballingSlowTurnovermerchants

I think that about covers it

1 hour ago, Mental Demons said:

May is not leadership material. He is soft and getting softer. He was a very overpriced pick up and seem to be getting more fragile with age. I doubt he will play 20 games or be a part of a successful Demons team. He does not even lead by example with his personal self discipline. We have not even seen how he fits in a competent back line because he has never played in one. He has played one OK game for us.

Absolute bs.

Any name we throw up is flawed. Viney came the closest to being a true leader but I think his leadership is more suited to minor leagues. 

No one stands out. 

1 hour ago, Mental Demons said:

May is not leadership material. He is soft and getting softer. He was a very overpriced pick up and seem to be getting more fragile with age. I doubt he will play 20 games or be a part of a successful Demons team. He does not even lead by example with his personal self discipline. We have not even seen how he fits in a competent back line because he has never played in one. He has played one OK game for us.

Troll

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Absolute bs.

Got any reasons why? 

Make Gawn the sole captain.

Put Viney in front of a camera and he struggles to strings together a sentence. He's embarrassing.

1 minute ago, Mental Demons said:

Got any reasons why? 

Nothing in your May post is accurate. That's why.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Troll

I am not a troll. I am looking at statistics. He was too old for the price we paid. He might make it to 30 games but I would be surprised if we were successful with him in the best 22. May bullying Frost does not make him a leader. Frost, Hore and Salem have been our best defenders this year. People here bang on about him being a VC at an unsuccessful club as some sort of qualification. This is nonsense, he may have been made VC at the Suns to increase his trade value. The Demons were suckers to go for it. Two ex-Suns players - less than a dozen games out of them in a losing season? Neither have proved their value. May has to get out there and earn some respect if he wants to be successful at the Demons. Making him VC before he does anything here will not help him get there.

14 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Nothing in your May post is accurate. That's why.

Why don't you sing of his successes then? I can't see them.

 

4 minutes ago, Mental Demons said:

Why don't you sing of his successes then? I can't see them.

 

No point if your eyes are closed

Viney and Jones have been immense disappointments this year. Jones has had one "leader's" game and that was against Sydney. I am not expecting him to set the world on fire but his drop into mediocrity has peaked this season and it would be difficult to justify a spot for him in the top 22 next year.

Viney has had obvious physical battles but it's more clear every week that we can't have Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney competing for the same ball. 

Goodwin needs to grow a pair and start making changes because it's not working.

Gawn is far and away our only on-field leader.

9 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

No point if your eyes are closed

All I can see is that you have nothing to back up what you say and have to reply in memes. I will bet May will not be our VC. 

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

they are who i hope are our leaders next year

Max (C)

May (VC)

Yup. And sit Viney away from the midfield and put him in the forward pocket as a ferociously defensive minded goal sneak that can help us retain the ball, pinch hit in the middle at times, but all year, hone his kicking and kick 30 for us.

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by John Demonic

2 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Yup. And sit Viney away from the midfield and put him in the forward pocket as a ferociously defensive minded goal sneak that can help us retain the ball, pinch hit in the middle at times, but all year, hone his kicking and kick 30 for us.

Interesting idea...

i would give that a run

2 hours ago, Mental Demons said:

May is not leadership material. He is soft and getting softer. He was a very overpriced pick up and seem to be getting more fragile with age. I doubt he will play 20 games or be a part of a successful Demons team. He does not even lead by example with his personal self discipline. We have not even seen how he fits in a competent back line because he has never played in one. He has played one OK game for us.

Really?

We now have a backline 'general' in May for the first time since ...... I can't remember.

Jamie Duursma perhaps, Earl Spalding, Neita when he played there as a 19 year old,...

Get the drift.

 

1 hour ago, In Harmes Way said:

We do only have one problem-

#PoorCultureNoDepthToomanyInjuriesNoGameplanMentallySoftUnfitPoorlydrilledScaredtotakeashotBadlycoachedOverhandballingSlowTurnovermerchants

I think that about covers it

That’s one big mother of a problem Harmes