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2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

We've already got the players, the problem is that we can't get them on the park, and in particular, we can't get them on the park together. e.g. basically our whole forward line from last year's finals is missing.

Apologist number 1 has dared show his face. Congrats

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Our game has always depended on Gawn and midfielder dominance to make up for our forward deficiencies. So when Max gets towelled up in the last and our midfield gets beaten to the ball all our deficiencies look worse. All our last half goals were opportunistic, off the ground kicks etc. none from set plays to key forwards taking a mark etc. just don’t know where we go from here. So many deficiencies up forward, down back and now the midfield group seems to have been worked out. 

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Well demonland will go into meltdown after that performance. It was actually 85 points from turn overs 13 goals 7 behinds from turn overs. Can you actually coach a team to handle the pill that badly. With so many professional footballers unable to kick or hand ball to maintain possession it augurs badly for next year simply because there are so many of them we cannot clear them all out at the same time.

I also think it is time Goodwin ceased sending us the post match video. It is inane, densely and completely insincere because there is no improvement. I am embarrassed by this club.

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4 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

ANB just disgraceful. At least 5 goals from his turnovers and inability to pick up the ball. Missed Lewis and Fritsch to cost us 2 certain goals.

he is part of Goodys SA crew though.

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This is basically the same team that played finals last year. that had one of the best defenses last year. now look at us a shambles. All of our backmen want to either go for the mark or spoil usually in the same contest, spoiling our own players. Jones is not a backman, oscar is not a backman, frost while i like him turns the ball over, but then again which of our backmen did not.

Saints players cleared the ball so easily at stopages. our players just seemed to stand and watch them go. sadly i dont see a couple of early picks helping this team when they cannot defend, tackle, handball, or generally play football. 50+ years supporting this club and this is the crap they serve up year after year.

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The dumbest footy team I have ever seen. Skills at junior level and that is being a bit unkind to the kids. We are really in a bad position. At least 8 players tonight are just not AFL players. OMac, Petty, Smith, Baker, ANB, Hunt, Jones and Wagners then the brain fades by Frost , Salem, Brayshaw, Lever. Bloody hell I have nearly mentioned every player.

NO LEADERSHIP either by Coach or the Captains.

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2 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

We'll shift some magnets, play well until 3/4 and watch them kick away form 15 to 40 points and the turd polishers will pop up from out of the woodwork for the first time in 2 weeks and discuss all of the positive aspects of the match before dissappearing when we return to rubbish the week later. Rinse and repeat for a few years.

Basically the same as the 70s

 

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4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

we are road kill... if you watched the coverage last night we weren't even mentioned by the commentators as being  a bump in the Tiger's run home.

And that was before tonight's sh!te.

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I am not interested in hearing any excuses. We have completely overrated our list. We are lead by a board who has no passion for the club. Goodwin is under the pump. The media are going To Come for him and rightly so. Levers kicking was [censored]. Putrid. The Wagner’s arebte same. 

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5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Thought Trac was good tonight.

He needs to stop his fade outs though. Goes missing for blocks.

What has happened to Gus and Jetta?

We are just not skilled enough for those chip kicks.

Some easy delists inc Omac, Jwag, Hunt and Tsmith. Jones to retire.

So many players just need to show some pride of club.

Jetta was good. Brayshaw is putrid. Insists on handballing to the opposition.

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1 minute ago, Earl Hood said:

Our game has always depended on Gawn and midfielder dominance to make up for our forward deficiencies. So when Max gets towelled up in the last and our midfield gets beaten to the ball all our deficiencies look worse. All our last half goals were opportunistic, off the ground kicks etc. none from set plays to key forwards taking a mark etc. just don’t know where we go from here. So many deficiencies up forward, down back and now the midfield group seems to have been worked out. 

Would it have hurt to have continued Preuss footy development for the rest of the season.

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15 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Whoever made the decision to select Oscar McDonald needs to be sacked immediately. Absolutely unforgivable.

It was obvious the aints were targeting that match up all night. The entire football world knows he's a dud, except for our FD. Heads need to roll before we get fined another $500k

Almost word perfect substitute "select" for "recruit" and your spot on.

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Gus & Viney slooow liabilities at this level against a strong through the body, quick burst speed centre line like the Aints or Essendrug now.  Anytime we meet them (or similar) we are toast.  Big M can get all the hit outs we like.  Useless if very few mids can get to the drop first other than Clarry and Harmes (when he plays through there).

We don't have enough off the line speed and structurally don't set up or offer dangerous options / outliers for the receive and give inside 50.

Our players in general are devoid of dispoal skills/confidence and belief.  Constantly giving it straight back to the opposition under pressure.  Jones, Lever and Frost fabulous examples this evening.  Not enough players with composure, evasive skills or finish/class.

ANBs torpedo (too high)  handball to Fritschkreig at the end there a great example of ordinary skills (turnover).  All other clubs that would have been a goal 29 out of 30 times.

We have serious list and coaching issues and the skills / structure issues start and end with Goody.  He has ruined this club's skills / structural disciplines & persists with his horrid chaos play on at all costs game style, which has sent us to the bottom.

We have no possession / tempo game style to counter a run on and cool down the opponent when they are hot, which means we are unable to maintain a lead at any stage of any match.

On top, outside of Tracc and Fritschkreig, our forward line is not AFL worthy or capable of kicking a winning score.

How many times do we see too many at the marking / spoiling contest and no one down for the spill.  Or doing same and ball spills out back for easy joe the goose?

How many times do we need to see too many chasing the ground ball and leaving an extra outlier or two of the opp's on the outside for the easy receive then off to the races??

How many times do we need to see a few players go up in a marking contest  and the ball spills to an opposition player who is just playing the basics (structure) front and square, grabs spilled ball kicking an easy goal or hitting targets inside 50.  How  often have you seen our blokes play front a square for the spill?  I can't recall it too often this season.

Easily the worst drilled/coached team in the AFL.

I cant see us finishing anywhere but bottom 6 again next year as Goody just keeps giving us more of the same rubbish week in and out and, outside of his control to a degree, there are just too many non-AFL level plodders and spuds on the list.

Hoping for better but preparing for plenty more misery under the present Goodwin game style, the pitiful skill levels, ill disiplined structures and the lack of a tempo/possession game.

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NO LEADERSHIP either by Coach or the Captains

bang on- can we really go into next season with same leaders and expect to do better? Just seem to have a losing mentality. If goody hasn’t been able to change that by now odds are he never will

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Geez Gawn's insights into the post-match message from Goody are horrible.

Apparently we played well but couldn't finish off.

Apparently they DON'T KNOW why they get killed on transition.

Talking up the Richmond game, pretty much brushing off today.

What a soulless club.

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